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From a thread I’ve just posted but completely relevant here ;
So two nights ago I thought I’d do my usual alotted 1 hour of exercise by having a leisurely hour out on my road bike. However two evenings ago on said ride, I was putting down some power to accelerate up a small hill when my cassette decided to disintegrate. Result was me over the bars , unconscious with road rash from hell and a helmet smashed into 3 pieces. Fortunately Someone saw it from their window and called an ambulance.
Long story short - ambulance came and as awesome as ever, they checked my vital signs which were all good and we decided it was safer for me to go home than to hospital at this time!
I now feel like a complete idiot for taking up their valuable time at the moment.
If you have Zwift , then for now please use it, as unexpected accidents do happen!
Did I tell you the story of how I tripped over the dog and fell down the stairs?
But which story actually happened?
If you have Zwift , then for now please use it, as unexpected accidents do happen!
What if your cassette doesn’t realise you’re indoors and that it’s apparently only allowed to disintegrate outdoors, and you end up smashing your nuts into the stem, rupturing an artery, falling sideways onto the sideboard and fracturing your skull because you weren’t wearing a helmet because accidents can’t happen in the home, then the blood leaks into the extension sockets you were using to power your laptop, electrocuting you and setting fire to your carpet.
Now you’ve got burns, a fractured skull and a perineum like Friday The 13th, with no passers-by to call for help, and all because you didn’t do the sensible thing and go for a gentle pootle outside.
Or you could just irrationally despise yourself for some exceptionally bad luck and imply that everyone else would be an idiot not to confine their one-in-a-million mechanical hiccups to the confines of their own home.
Yet again a statement made without being specificly clear on meaning.
As stated could be seen as not traveling to a trail center etc, like the two blokes that were stopped while driving 80 miles to the lakes with a canoe on the room, and certainly could refer to the actual remoteness and injury risk and then additional burden on the NHS.
On the whole most folk and im sure all here are simply riding from there own homes weather that be commuting on there bike and taking the long way home through the woods as i did before all this kicked off. Or just the local woods byways etc.
The time limit of an hour is a suggestion not the law, but a 6 hour ride could be looked upon as a bit naughty.
Then again the comment could be about this ...
New Zealand health minister caught mountain biking during lockdown
And painting us with the same brush...
From ROSPA website:
In the UK every year, almost 6,000 people die in home accidents and 2.7million visit their local accident and emergency departments seeking help.
Bloody hell you lot, calm it down a bit...
Ride your bike from home, don't shred the gnarr or whatever, don't be a dick, apply common sense and be nice to your fellow human...
Anyway we've gone camping tonight....
In the back garden before I set off another round of high horse heroics:-)
Bez - well normally you wouldn’t expect to leave A&E after a bike crash accident with a virus that could kill your nearest and dearest would you ?
Well if you haven’t seen the news recently, let me tell you that you can now.
That was my point FFS
Normally on a bike ride I would not expect to visit A&E. I never have after a bike ride in 50 years of cycling most days.
I have however visited A&E after DIY several times
I can be in the local woods (mellow singletrack and forest roads - we don't do hills or rocks round here) in 5 minutes ride from my door.
So, I could continue to ride as I normally do (and see maybe a maximum of 2 other people the whole ride at the moment in easily 'socially distanceable' cirumstances). This is definitely my allowed exercise (I wear a HRM! (tongue firmly in cheek for the hard of understanding)), but is also my hobby and is recreational too.
I could however, drag my (in this context unsuitable) bike round the local country roads for an hour instead for my exercise. That definitely would not be recreational or my hobby, but would probably put me in contact with more other people (just riding out of our village) than spinning round the woods.
Until the actual guidance says different (and I personally do suspect it will soon), I'm going to carry on as I am now. This is not an 'I'm too special to follow the rules' thing, it's applying a bit of common sense to the situation and taking my own context into account. If and when things are locked down further, I'll happily (well not happily, but you know what I mean) dust off the turbo in the garage and fire up TrainerRoad...
Think I saw some potential for bringing an argument about wearing helmets or not in a post earlier somewhere. :shrug:
Sounds like Bez is home alone.
I now feel like a complete idiot for taking up their valuable time at the moment
Just to point out the NHS is still actually working and A&E isn't filled with people with viral infections.
From a thread I’ve just posted but completely relevant here ;
I was mulling over the reason why he singled out "Mountain Biking", if hospitals collate data on the reason for treatment/admittance. Then looking at the Chaps job title it's pretty safe to assume he's been looking very closely at clinical demand numbers for hospitals. Now team sport related injuries would have fallen off a cliff leaving one sport/recreation/hobby sticking out like a sore thumb. He may have absolutely no concept of enduro/xc/dh/gravel bimble/bw gnar he just has numbers.
This also means avoiding going to A &E, to take pressure off frontline health services. But while heeding the advice to stay at home, we need to be aware that more accidents happen in the home than anywhere else – you could say the home is the most dangerous place to be, with 6,000 home accident deaths across the UK every year.
Now go and have a look at the virtual queue at B&Q online, and tell me where the biggest load on A&E will come from this weekend...
The 60mins is in Government guidance but not in the legisation.
(Think Highway Code and HiViz versus the law).
Most of us don't bike up mountains, we ride off-road.
I shall carry my RoughStuff Fellowship membership card with me.
Stirling - can you pint me to where the 60 mins is in the guidance? Written official guidence please.
TJ
Guidance isn't official - that's the point.
I got pointed to this blog by Scotways after the local uni shut their campus (now reopened)
Also lots of exchanges on Twitter last night from MSPs asking for clarification on the guidance.
https://twitter.com/MalcolmCombe/status/1243928475796455429?s=19
You lot need to read this.
https://profilebooks.com/the-norm-chronicles.html
Stirling - even any official guidance? I have read everything on the scotgov website and there is nothing on there I am in breach of either spirit or letter that I can see. If you can show me I am wrong then I will of course modify my behaviour
Where is the 60 mins in the guidance please.
Geologist, you need to get a grip.
As has been mentioned A&E is still fully functional and catering for the accidents that happen in all walks of life.
It's that sort of over the top attitude that's for example harming children for where parents aren't bringing their kids into A&E when they should and other issues occur.
This is the same Jason Leitch who said on March 15th that mass gatherings were no threat to the nations health and that the CMOs second home visit was OK because she had been working really hard.
I'm applying the two tests of the No Car, No Gnar Not Far and don't be a dick for my riding. Or perhaps the simpler "Think global, Ride local" mantra.
I've reigned it right in since this all kicked off. For me, that means heading out on the fat bike for solo rides after dark to minimise the likelihood of contact with other people. I read a really great piece of advice suggesting that the best way to act is to assume that you are an asymptomatic carrier. I don't want to infect anyone so avoiding other folk as much as I can save going for the weekly shop when it is quiet works for me.
I have several bikes to test and articles to write at the moment so could easily justify going out as being work but that doesn't sit quite right with me. Others may have a different take.
That said, I appear to be doing a lot more DIY these days. My house may well end up looking like something out of Grand Designs at this rate! Part of me would love to see the admissions stats when this is all over to see if there has been an above normal spike in DIY related injury admissions.
Hopefully, what with one thing and another, a long term benefit of where we find ourselves will be that people realise that when you go to A & E, asking yourself the question "Is this an accident or an emergency?" may be the default. As several posters have pointed out, GP's and A&E's are still very much open for business. If you or your family have a health issue you are worried about, don't be tempted to put it off. Heart attacks, strokes etc still happen during pandemics!
Cheers
Sanny
I took this to mean don't drive to somewhere to go mountain biking. I live just under the Pentland Hills and until they closed the car parks, they were heaving with eejits . Even now, cars are hiding/parking on some of the wee back roads near the reservoirs.
I can be in the middle of the hills 20 minutes ride from my front door. I've been spending more time on the road bike, but I don't see an issue if I took my mountain bike out for an hour. Packing up the car to go somewhere for a ride, that's wrong.
No Car, No Gnar, Not Far and don’t be a dick
Seems like a good set of rules.
Luckily my local trails are too far on the side of "soft shandy" to ever be described as mountain biking. So i'll keep getting the dirty looks from the walkers on their mobiles not paying attention to me ringing my bell
In normal times, this is what the government recommends as a minimum....
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/
Physical activity guidelines for adults aged 19 to 64
Adults should do some type of physical activity every day. Any type of activity is good for you. The more you do the better.
That was my point FFS
Yeah, I got that your point was either that or adding to the burden on the NHS.
It's just that I don't personally think one highly unusual incident outside the house is a reason to implore everyone else to avoid going out.
Fortunately I don't have Zwift anyway 🙂
How about livery yards they seem busy to me, how much exercise does a horse need. Never hear them getting told how long they can ride around .
how much exercise does a horse need
A lot. But we did horses last week...
But we did horses last week…
Hey! We do this thread every week, why not horses? Horse-ist!
Have we done a coffee machine or maybe tradesman day rate thread recently ?
Geologist, you need to get a grip.
As has been mentioned A&E is still fully functional and catering for the accidents that happen in all walks of life.
It’s that sort of over the top attitude that’s for example harming children for where parents aren’t bringing their kids into A&E when they should and other issues occur.
I know of at least one person who was admitted to hospital on an unrelated issue and died of coronavirus caught in there. It's not over the top at all.