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Not heard anything since before Christmas when "in the New Year" was mentioned - have emailed Sam but have had no response - anyone else heard anything?
No, nothing since then
Nope but keep searching on here for Rooster and this is first thing to come up in a while...
Nope.
Checked when I paid and it was back in April 2014.
Hey ho!
Sam should have called it the Cockatrice!
...comes back from googling cockatrice. i get it now. 🙂
i have wondered this op and nope.
Yep - I paid in April as well - am really starting to regret the whole thing!
Did you pay, or did you pledge on Kickstarter?
Paid the £400 once the kickstarted reached the required number
he sent a message 4th Dec
Hi all,I was hoping that about now I would be emailing you with details of shipping your Roosters to you. Sadly some major issues have come up in production which are taking some time to resolve. Fortunately they were identified before frames went to paint and I'm hoping can be quickly resolved. However it is not going to be until the new year that we see any frames here. I'm really sorry about this and can assure you it's proving extremely frustrating and difficult for me, as it is for you.
I will be sure to keep you up to date with any further news as I have it.
My apologies again.
He then gave an offer for rooster backers of 35% off any frame he has in stock on the 5th Dec
That's the last I heard from Sam but it's now the new year so I was hoping for some news! 35% off a new frame is great if you've got the money and want a new frame but my money is tied up in the Rooster so it's not a lot of use to me!
I wish mine was here also, but there aren't any muddy tyres around in 29+ at the moment... so don't know what I'd stick on it 29+ wise anyway
Maxxis Chronicle is very capable. Different league to the Knard.
Do we think that Sam's margin is 35%? Not bad!
This all sounds very familiar. I remember how frustrating it was waiting for my Puffin, it's certainly put me off doing anything similar in the future.
Hope you all get some news soon.
Do we think that Sam's margin is 35%? Not bad!
I don't know what I'd need to make designing and selling frames in relatively short numbers my sole/main source of income. Any ideas?
Yup still waiting! Big pile of parts still waiting in the shed 🙁
While frustrating, it's also vanguard territory of latest thing with Chronicles and decent tyres only just coming into the country now and Stans Hugo rims arriving March time so patience is required for quite a few things about this project for me. I've wondered what mistake or otherwise happened with the frames (too few bosses? chainring clearance?), but also doubt Sam can say much more than they're still in Taiwan, and sorry again. A weekly update of this state of things wouldn't be that useful, but just trust he'll keep us posted when he knows more. Want to get my bikepack on...
A brief statement of what's gone wrong and why would help, rather than just 'delayed'
Once a month would seem like a reasonable interval to contact 'investors' to keep them in the loop.
I'm not expecting a weekly update but not having heard anything since early December when "in the new year" was mentioned is a little frustrating!
Had fun waiting for my Puffin last year - well worth the wait 🙂
What I find interesting is that Sam has brought a fair number of frames to market yet the two he has done through the free mezzanine financing which is kick starter have been significantly delayed over the original forecast delivery. So has he just been unfortunate or does the process generally take as long as it is doing with the puffin and rooster for a small manufacturer but he doesn't want to put that up front as he's unlikely to get backing for a frame that's a year away from delivery.
Did you pay, or did you pledge on Kickstarter?
What's your point Brant?
Some pertinent stuff from Kickstarter's FAQs
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I wish Sam all the best and hope he manages to get everything sorted. If I was concerned I'd email him about it but generally I'm not. It'll always take a while and if previous performance is anything to go by the Puffins took an age but were well built and well received once they arrived.
I admit I do find myself now regretting that I have at least £600 tied up in a frame and rear wheel, plus the future promise of a rim and pair of Chronicles. However, that is my choice and more to do with other commitments that came up after (way after) I pledged. So, that's not Sam's problem and is more "wisdom in hindsight" than anything else. Otherwise I'm still waiting patiently.
I agree with many comments earlier about updates. They need to be at least once a month and be as"warts and all" as possible. I'm a grown up and can take bad news with the good. I can understand if Sam is reluctant to do so because of the histrionics and bollocks common to this forum and the internet in general. I suspect that amongst everything else Sam is probably doing updates are at the bottom of his list. Also, I suspect, there'll always be a reluctance about being completely open. Business reputations have many facets and the dreaded internet and its occupants act against this quite often IMO.
Anyhoo, fingers crossed it'll all get sorted in the not too distant future and the bike'll be great.
😎
I'd pencilled this for a Spring 2015 build so at this point I'm quite relaxed. I'm lucky to have a couple of bike options in the meantime though, but can understand backers frustrations. I agree with the idea of a real world warts an all monthly update. I'm sure it will be more than worth the wait 🙂 feeling excited
* Awaits imminent email update *
These threads always seem to kick Sam into gear.
Just looking through the Puffin thread and previous Rooster thread. Once a certain number moan or there's a new thread, an email usual follows shortly afterwards.
Bump, anything yet?
Got an update today - It wasn't good reading ! Where do we go from here ? It might not be good for Sam but it's far from ideal for us folk that parted with their money 🙁
I don't think that is too helpful, beerbiker.
FWIW, where I am going to go from here is to trust Sam to manage the investment as he re-iterated he would, and deliver what he has again promised he would. (and post reported)
cba.
CBA, either.
Can we get a copy and paste for those backers who've dropped off email list for updates please?
"And post reported" - am I reading that right, you've reported someone's post because they are chasing something up they paid for ages ago and haven't had yet? What's all that about then, or am I missing the point?
who've dropped off email list for updates please?
nice try 😆
eddie11
No I really did back on kickstarter, not frameset but fork only option. Seeing as they're clearly going to arrive in same shipment as frames I just want to know the update. I've exchanged individual emails with sam, but missed off the list somehow.
edit - just seen i said this a month ago too and you replied then too!
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/singular-29-on-kickstarter-but-not-on-singular-site-how-does-that-work/page/2
I did a crowdfund for an album one time, and tbh after a year of relentless updates, I wish they'd put Sam in charge.
BUMP - oh go on, someone tell me the latest update. I just want 3inch tyres and anything cages in my life. If not happy to paste for some reason, email in profile...
munded - Member
BUMP - oh go on, someone tell me the latest update. I just want 3inch tyres and anything cages in my life. If not happy to paste for some reason, email in profile...
What you need is a bit of Titanium in your life as well
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Kingdom?
Travers? (says on fork)
Travers Rudy Fat (for gears)
Travers Angus (for SS or geared hub)
Forks now have bolt holes for anything cages.
It's a fantastic long haul xc bike with a C17 brooks saddle and Jones H bars it just eats up the miles and great for bikepacking as well
Are they Walty or Xacd?
cba
BB looks really tall. That's what I don't like about the Krampus, and that looks taller still. The Rooster geometry looks spot on for me.
sillyoldman - MemberBB looks really tall. That's what I don't like about the Krampus, and that looks taller still. The Rooster geometry looks spot on for me.
It's about as tall off the ground as most other bikes with 29" wheels,
as for the overall size, I'm only 5'8" with a 31" inside leg and this is the large frame, fits me perfectly for long rides.
No Ti needed for us Sheffield residents, only the real stuff.
Not heard back from Sam or anyone on here. Would really like to know the update, even if it's just learn more patience for a few months.
Steel fork is all I need, especially today when my Rockshox won't fit anything bigger than 2.2 in front.
So is anyone thinking of selling their stake for a large Rooster?
^ Sanny, ygm
Hmm. Still looks "awkward" to me, hence my interest in B+.JohnClimber - Member
sillyoldman - Member
BB looks really tall. That's what I don't like about the Krampus, and that looks taller still. The Rooster geometry looks spot on for me.
It's about as tall off the ground as most other bikes with 29" wheels,
as for the overall size, I'm only 5'8" with a 31" inside leg and this is the large frame, fits me perfectly for long rides.
Just wondering if anything's happened in the past two months and I missed it...
Not really, nothing concrete afaict.
Last update was 7th April and said that they should be landing by the end of next month all being well.
OK thanks. I bought Riddoch's pledge off him and it looks like Sam hasn't added me to the email update list, so I wondered if I'd missed anything.
I'm being missed off email updates too. So to confirm end of May latest date?
End of May - Yarp.
I just hope it arrives before our baby does - early July!
2017 is Year of the Rooster 😉
Cheers Teacake. Not in time for WRT this weekend, but hopefully some summer bikepacking fun.
End of May would that mean that they are on the boat just now?
If I start saving now I'll be able to afford a Buzzard mk2 when they come out in 18 months time 😉
Hmm its been a long wait..... 🙁
Certainly has -13 months since I paid for it!
Think I'd be asking for my money back and interest Steve.
Yep - I could buy a Genesis then! Enjoy it on the WRT!
Just checked with Sam, and he confirms things are sorted and he is just waiting for the shipping date.
Anyone heard anything? I know i'm missed off updates is all. Anyone know if we're waiting for a shipping date from Factory still, or being despatched from UK?
Nothing afaik, I mailed him on Wednesday about my rims for the Rooster and haven't heard anything back.
Email off Sam yesterday - update due this weekend - why does that make me think I may not be getting the Rooster this month?
Did anyone get an email.
Sadly no - but fully expect another dirty great dollop of disappointment.
No weekend update - looks like I'm not getting the Rooster before the end of May!
Just received an update from Sam. Frames are leaving Taiwan this week. Did think that they could not be here by end May if no notice of shipping had been sent.
To be honest I am just glad Sam has managed to work through this and that it does look like a frame will arrive at my home before too long.
Brian
Does it mention a time frame?
Just received an update from Sam. Frames are leaving Taiwan this week. Did think that they could not be here by end May if no notice of shipping had been sent.
Well if its on the same boat used to ship the Puffins it will make a 27 day journey last for over 60 days.
I do feel for you lot & for Sam, it's daft that I bought a carbon frame from Taiwan & it took a total of 5 days from order to delivery to my door.
I'm sure it'll be all worth it in the end
Was this a kick starter or similar?
Did you know from the start that there was no real way to know when you'd get your bike, or has this been a series of broken promises (for want of a better phrase)?
OK so does anybody know what size seat collar the rooster will need? The diagrams on the kickstarter site seem to suggest 30mm.....
Schedule has slipped - repeatedly. Launched March 2014, funded (supporters paid in advance) in April 2014. Original delivery date was late August to September 2014. As above, frames haven't left Taiwan yet!
Updates have been few and far between...
[url= https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1471361938/singular-rooster-29-bicycle?ref=discovery ]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1471361938/singular-rooster-29-bicycle?ref=discovery[/url]
Update from Sam today (29 June 2015):
"They are on the boat, should be landing in two weeks."
so - with the buyers by end of July?
Website makes it look as if there's stock. Would love one but is it possible to have an EBB that is consistently creek free without heaps of TLC?
If it's got the same EBB as the other Singulars then it does. Mine have all been trouble (and creak) free. I've only needed to adjust when changing the chain if I'm running singlespeed.