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I’ve always ridden in shorts but I’m thinking of a pair of trousers for the colder months and I’ve had Rockrider gear before which has been great quality for the price. So anyone have a pair? Was wondering what they are like for pedalling in as they are water repellent. They are supposed to be stretchy and do look it in the photos.
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The light ones (grey) are great, love mine
Also got the thicker black ones with fleece inside, love those to buy had to get braces on them 🤣 as to get the length the waist was huge!
Both splash resistant but not waterproof
Yeah. I bought them about a year ago and they work well. Comfy, a bit stretchy, well fitted around the ankle. Oh yeah, the grey ones.
They are great for colder weather riding and keeping the mud off.
The zip and how it fastens is a bit weird but overall a good buy.
Also bought a pair of endura humvee trousers in the CRC sale last year for £30. They are more loose fitting than the rock riders.
Thanks for the quick replies folks. Shall order a pair now.
They're pretty good. The grey ones, that is.
Deffo at the thinner, stretchier end of the market, which is very good in some ways. Not deadly hot when the weather isn’t freezing and it is easy to pedal and move about in them.
A pair will probably last you 1-2 winters depending on how much you wear them. If you ride twice a week, I wouldn't bank on getting more than one winter out of them. But that is OK if the price is still c.£30(?)
Also, don't bank on them staying splash repellant for long. Even if you wash them infrequently, the DWR will rub off of the arse after a couple of rides.
But of course it will, any area that has that amount of friction is bound to lose any finish. And I wash trews after every ride, so I had no expectation of the water repellancy lasting. Jackets and gillets - I'm happy to surface rinse those with water only, but clothing that is around the nethers - not so much.
Madison Flux are £32 on Freewheel, as an alternative, not including postage.
they are good, grey thinner stretchy ones although come up short, i sold mine on as much prefer the mt500 burner pant by endura, similiar tight and stretchy and not too hot, but much better fit overall.
friend has the black fleece lined decathlon and he likes for cold winter
They're a weird shape around the waist, and as @flyingpotatoes says the fastening is a bit odd, but for the money they're fine I saved up and bought the Rapha ones, which despite the name-check are actually pretty well thought out. Rockrider pair now relegated to back up and commuter duties on wetter days .
they are good, grey thinner stretchy ones although come up short
Surely thats relative? Mine are too long for me!! Good though, not totally waterproof but good enough for me.
They're fine for crappy conditions rides. Prefer nukeproof ones for most use.
I like them but do find a bit of sweaty plastic bag feel on lower legs on climbs, especially if not wearing longer socks so its just bareskin in contact with trousers.
I just wash mine with soapflakes and put in tumble dryer for 10 mins post wash (with some dry towels in TD as well). So far has brought back repelency effectively. had them for 1 year.
Waist closure i really like. They don't really slip down and don't dig into hips. 1st set i bought was too big / flappy though. Had to go down a size
Bib longs under baggies for the roadie/MTB look ?
Just ordered a pair and hopefully should have them next week. Going to BPW the week after so will be able to give them a good testing without a lot of climbing!
I have some Rockrider winter bibs which have been fantastic but I do look like Max Wall when I wear them.
How fashions have changed in mtbing, a few years ago everyone wore baggies but when I went to FOD a couple of weeks ago it was predominately trousers.
it was predominately trousers.
they do make more sense though. I mean, it's nice to strip them off at the end of a ride and have mostly clean legs.
Not to mention only having one layer below the waist that needs prewashing before going in the washer.
Both good points, and as someone with legs like twiglets long may they reign!
As an afterthought can you fit knee pads under them ok?
I’ve got some Poc air which I have never ever used but thought I would give them a go if they will fit. If not can anyone recommend a knee pad that will?
I've got those Sam Hill Di something-or-other kneepads, which I think are quite bulky. They go over them fine. I don't know what it looks like to others as I've never looked in a full length mirror whilst kitted up!
I've got the black winter ones. They're very warm, proper winter offroad warm. I'm planning to get something thinner for spring/autumn and at least one pair of actual waterproofs now that I'm sold on the concept.
The material is a mix of a baggy set of Roubaix tights (but thicker, a bit like the endura Jetstream winter jerseys if you have them) and cordura-style panels where you'll crash on it.
Like everything, the DWR lasts a few washes. If I've got a big day out planned and the weather looks iffy they get a dowsing in whatever nickwax/grangers waterproofing I have in the house.
It's a revelation though being able to peel them off and pull on a pair of jeans and T-shirt after a ride.
I think Tredz have got TLD Skyline trousers at under £40 at the moment
As an afterthought can you fit knee pads under them ok?
For me it's probably a no, but I might be a special case. I'm slim with long legs so there isn't much spare material length-wise on mine. When I wear knee pads under them the ankle cuff and waist band stay in place (good) which pulls the material over my knee kind of tight at the top of each pedal stroke. Fine without pads, but if I've got pads on (Rapha sleeve type ones) the pad gets pushed down onto my kneecap, over the course of a ride that makes my knee really sore (under my kneecap, not the skin on the outside). However, that's almost certainly made worse by me wearing a size that's possibly slightly too short, to fit my waist, and an old knee injury from a dozy driver.
But, the Decathlon trousers are decent, great for local pad-less muddy rides in the winter. I'm off to BPW soon and wondering if I can wear my old 661 Kyle Straits over the top of them.
As an afterthought can you fit knee pads under them ok?
I can fit my Raceface D30 pads under mine easily. They are cut looser at the knee to accommodate pads.
can you fit knee pads under them ok?
Yes, I've found they're OK with knee pads
MIne are fine with knee pads. G-Form type anyway.
Looks like I should be ok then. Thanks people.
Endura Singletrack II v Madison Flux, anyone able to compare them?
Any of you owners got big thighs? And if so can you get knee pads and thick tree trunks inside them?
I have the grey ones, I have long legs and they do come up short and usually ride upto my calves on XC type rides which is what I predominantly did before we had little un.
I’d say if you have big calves depending on the size you may find them a bit of a squeeze but they are elastic bottoms so should stretch to accommodate. Nobody else sounds like they’ve had issues with not fitting valves though
Just done a gravel hour in mine in short socks and liner shorts, none of the sticking to my legs mentioned above but then again I'm a hairy ****er
Got the grey ones.
They're ok but for me the sizing is weird.
I'm a 32" waist, 175cm tall, normal proportions. Tried on size medium - perfect around the waist but legs very tight.
Tried large - legs just right with room for light/minimal pads, waist just too big.
Had the same problem with the shorts version.
Nukeproof Blackline trousers are nicer and a better fit, if they're still available for £40 I'd get them instead or TLD Skylines if they're still reduced at CRC
Just got back from first night ride of autumn 23 where trews were worn. Despite not being particularly cold, the grey thinnies were bang on. I only had one crapped up lower layer to sort and it just worked.
Madison have their sale one.
https://www.freewheel.co.uk/madison-flux-men-s-trousers-varmcl20w04#93=231581&184=232182
£32.
Edit: review here.
https://www.mbr.co.uk/reviews/trousers-pants/madison-flux-trouser-review
Those Madison look good for the money.
My personal faves are nukeproof blacklines, the string (beige) ones are £50 at the moment at CRC, the rest of the colours will probably be £50 sooner or later, they've added another grey colour too, only a matter of time before they'll be £50 as well.
Bought a pair of the Madison troose, they're decent. I bought a medium and they fit me ok. I'm 180cm tall, weigh 80kg and normally wear 32" waist jean.
Negatives:
- They could be a touch more fitted, especially the lower leg.
- The pockets are tiny.
- The waist is quite high.
- They're quite warm.
Positives:
- Price
- Nice and thick so would be perfect for winter.
- Could fit pads under.
- Fit well enough on the bike
- Look decent
- Appear to be well made.
- Come with a lifetime warranty.
I got them as well - similar impression, biggest drawback for me is the small pockets, but otherwise they’re great for the price.