[Closed] Roadie tyre upgrade, whats the go to?

You can spend days trying to balance between speed, fragility, wear rate and all kind of other things. But the age old default answer is Conti GP5000's. They fast, not too fragile and work well, you won't go far wrong with them.

As above, I've been running gp4000s for years and can't fault them, I like them in 25c as they come up quite big.

Not tried the 5000 version but assume it's an improvement on what I have.

I just bought some Vittoria Corsa Graphene 2.0 25s to replace my current offerings by Veloflex. I went out on a limb with the latter, and they have been fantastic on all fronts. The Vittorias, however, I was able to find for half price.

+1 Conti GP's

https://www.merlincycles.com/continental-gp5000-folding-clincher-road-tyre-700c-127979.html

23mm for front, 25mm for rear bought by me recently, with a pair of Supersonic tubes.

Still using my lightly worn 28mm https://www.merlincycles.com/vittoria-rubino-pro-control-g-isotech-folding-road-tyre-700c-87393.html up front that's been on since October (but very few outdoor rides over winter) and my starting to look a bit worse for wear 28mm (~31mm really) GP4000S II on the rear for now.

Tempted to fit the new aero toys, but will try and resist a few weeks longer, by which time I will be more up for fitting new chain; new wider range 11-34 cassette; r7000 gs rear mech.

Yeah gp5000 is the easy answer or gp4000 if you want a bargain as they're obviously reduced everywhere.

These the ones? GP5000 CRC

Doesn't seem to be too much in the price between the 4000 and the 5000?

I've been running some Hutchinson Sector 28mm tubeless and I've been impressed with there durability and had zero punctures in the time I have owned them (approx 2 years). I got them for £60 a pair from a shop in the EU. Can't remember which one sadly.

GP4000 are almost as good as 5000 and much cheaper at the moment. Also Schwalbe pro one are great and can be picked pretty cheaply.

Sigma or PBK have the GP5000 on offer at the moment

Anything Continental are safe, GP4000 or 5000.. been using them for years. Long lasting, fast rolling.

I'll echo GP4000s (not tried 5000s yet). I have them on my winter/commuter bike which I ride on all surfaces and they are remarkably intact. Schwalbe Pro ones on the other hand had multiple cuts which tend to swallow sharp bits of flint and glass which if undetected lead to punctures at the most inappropriate times.

My GP5000s didn’t last long, maybe 2000kms, started to get regular flats.
Moved back to Bontrager R4 in 25s (Gumwall) for the wet weather bike and Vittoria Corsa Graphene 2.0 23s also in Gumwall for the summer bike.

I did use my GP5000s over winter but still not massively impressed by them.

I’ve always bought cheap / sale tyres for road bikes but last time round bought some gp4000’s. Much better than cheap stuff - I commute on the bike but also try to get some training rides in (so fitter for mtb) and they roll well / seem to avoid punctures so far and have been more comfy for the same size. Tyres immediately before these were schwalbe Luganos and they were worse at everything.

Schwalbe One Raceguard or equivalent - approx 5k miles on a pair (swapping front to rear after 2500 miles). Had one puncture in that time which was a pinch flat from hitting a big rock at speed with pretty low tyre pressure.

Come up big in my experience even on a 15/77mm internal rim. I have 28s on my road bike on they are just over 30mm.

I'd go GP 4000 unless you are tubeless...half the price of 5000. Good puncture protection. Have also used Schwalbe Durano previously and they were also good but currently giving GP4000's a go.

I'm running 28's too and loads of grip.

We like Schwalbe Pro One but we do use them tubeless.

DonSchwalbe still make the Ultremo ZX? I really like them on my sunny day bike.

I've just got a pair of Schwalbe pro ones (the outgoing model from <2019, there's a new one out this year). No complaints. Apparently they're not the most long lasting but they were £45/pair for 25mm tubeless tyres. the new version is apparently longer lasting and tougher. Feel like they're more picky about pressures, I've been trying 80/85 after some reviews said they felt harsh at the more normal 90-100 psi, but feel a bit vague and wandery when pressed. But that could be the new wheels, or might just need a bit more trial and error.

Had Ultremo Zx's before, they're very nice tyres, entirely possible that it's a placebo but they feel faster than the conti's to me. And the completely slick tread makes them look like a MotoGP tyre in my mind! Apparently GP400s's were accidentally the most aerodynamic tyre (the 500's is apparently worse for some reason to do with how the tread is cut).

I've got hutchinson fusion 5 on the winter bike (11storm, tubeless). You would have to be really picky to not want them on a summer bike though. For no obvious reason they seem to be the only tyres I've never had a 'moment' on and slid, to the point I've been deliberately pushing harder and harder on descents.

GP4000 is nice and people say it's tough enough, but I like Grand Prix GT instead. Read somewhere it's what Madison Genesis team trained on. Theoretically a tiny bit slower but reinforced sidewalls mean if you are partially to a cheeky bridleway on occasion (I am) less chance of a slash puncture. 28mm front and back, I've never flatted on them commuting to teach piano in Sheffield or out training, grippy in wet and look cool enough I think. Normally go for £30ish.

I’ve been running some Hutchinson Sector 28mm tubeless and I’ve been impressed with there durability and had zero punctures in the time I have owned them (approx 2 years). I got them for £60 a pair from a shop in the EU. Can’t remember which one sadly.

+1. Great tyres.

I've never understood the love for Schwalbe pro ones: Mine cut easily, punctured easily, wore quickly, and had dreadful grip in the wet. They finally went in the bin after the rear tyre developed a large bulge.

I like Grand Prix GT instead.

I have these on my winter bike (in 25mm) and they are perfect for that job.

I did a review here...
http://unduro.co.uk/road/review-continental-grand-prix-gt-tyres/

I ran Ultremos for years and really like them - very, very light and zero issues. I have Duranos on road centric but not superlight road bikes and they are ace. Just retired a pair of 28's due to a sidewall bulge with over 6000 miles on them.

Currently use Schwalbe One's in whatever flavour is de regueur. I've also just fitted a pair of GP4000's on one road bike to see what all the fuss is about.

<edit> PSA They have Schwalbe One Evolution's in 700x23c over on Merlin for £17.00 posted ATM. Very cheeeeeeep...

I’ve also just fitted a pair of GP4000’s on one road bike to see what all the fuss is about.

Exactly what I did and there is no fuss over and above the Durano's I was running before. But at the end of the day it's only a tyre so what do you expect. You've got to make a decision somehow amongst the huge number of brands and models to choose from, and without having the time to thoroughly road test everything on the market then just go with what everyone else seems to recommend.

Just write each one recommended on this post so far on a post it note...shuffle them up, stick them on a wall in a random manner and, still blind fold, chuck a dart in the general direction of the wall. Whichever one you hit will be perfectly fine and adequate...

Vittoria open paves are nice. Corsas are also lovely but can be variable quality.

Running Conti GP5000 tubeless 28s on my summer bike at the moment. Very happy with them easy to get on and inflate. Hold pressure well. Very good grip and don’t slow me down.

I’d be shocked if this hasn’t come up on STW before but it’s great for those that like to read up

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/

Personally I’ve used GP 5000 and really rate them
I’ve used pirelli P Zero and found them susceptible to cuts on rougher roads and also not as long lasting as the continental

I’m using Hutchinson Fusion 5 at the minute and so far can’t fault them.

I’m not a fan of Continental tyres. I’ve got a Challenge Criteriums and Paris-Roubaix open tubulars on my bikes and they are amazing paired with latex tubes.

I too am a disliker of Continental road tyres. I liked Schwalbe tyres for a long time but these days use S-Works Rapid Air, awesome tyres if a bit speedy, luckily I can source at a good discount so works out OK.

for those running north of 90 psi in 25's, how heavy are you? I think 80-85 max for me at 85kg and in 28's I'm running 70-75.

GP4000 4 Seasons on my Specialized Roubaix on my winter wheels, brilliant tyres, tough and fast rolling. I am running 28’s at 55psi front and 60-65psi rear. I weigh 65.5kg so if you are heavier will need more pressure. I have recently fitted a pair of Schwalbe Ones in 30mm to my summer wheels, very grippy and roll well, can’t comment on durability since I have only done about 600 miles on them.

Never got on with Pro Ones, tubed or tubeless. Easily cut and really sketchy with the slightest hint of damp. Conti GP4000s2 or GP5000 have been great but I'm currently running Vittoria Corsa G+ 25c on the summer bike and Panaracer Gravelking Slick 28c on the winter, both have been excellent.