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Got another puncture on my road tubeless setup, this is the 5th time now, I know that as the other 4 times the puncture wouldn't seal, so I ended up buying a new tyre each time. Previously i was using Schwalbe Pro Ones but I'd read that Hutchinson Sectors were far tougher so I've switched... well this time it has sealed, but see attached pic, I'm not convinced.... would you replace this tyre?

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I'm losing the will to continue with these for a road bike.... sorely tempted to switch back to a tubed setup


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 4:59 pm
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I'd deflate it, push an anchovy into it and allow it to seal. I'd then be tempted to superglue it.

I've repaired Sectors like this before. For what it's worth, I've probably done about 5-6000km on my Sectors and had only a single puncture. It would only seal with Stan's at low pressure.


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 5:04 pm
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Hmm, not much in it, but I find Schwalbe a bit tougher and definitely more grippy than Hutch.
I’d patch the inside with a Hutchinson or Park tubeless patch myself..


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 5:41 pm
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Internal patch - did you try that on the previous 4?


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 5:47 pm
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A patch you say... hmmm... I threw them away in a hissy fit tbf😳


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 6:04 pm
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Why are you binning the tyres every time? Big gashes?


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 6:18 pm
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Sounds like you’ve been very unlucky. Maybe you ride on really bad roads ? I’m outside Edinburgh and we have pretty shite roads but I’m running tubeless on both road bikes(Schwalbe one pro’s)almost 3 years now. only issue was puncture that wouldn’t seal but the Tyre was on its last legs.


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 6:22 pm
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Well they wouldn't seal, and I'd never really considered reparing them, I just followed the same thought process as my mtb where if the gash was too big to seal it was new tyre time, which (for the record) has never actually happened...

I see the error of my ways now!!!

I'll get a tyre repair kit


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 6:34 pm
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The thick dynaplug plugs would probably fix that on the first attempt. If one doesn’t work two jammed it certainly would. I normally chuck a bit of loctite in tubeless holes like that and it seems to work ok.


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 6:39 pm
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Dynaplug impressed me.

Better and faster than anchovies as far as I could tell.

The tool isn’t cheap but the spares are ok.


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 6:39 pm
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Deflate, squeeze either side and apply a dab of Loctite 480...brilliant stuff (but not cheap), fixed a tub with it once and it held at 100 psi for a number of road races.

If you fancy the belt and braces approach you could patch on the inside also.


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 7:52 pm
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Interesting - Did you have puncture issues on tubed tyres too (I.e. the roads around where you live etc?). If not maybe persevere with the Hutchinson’s for a while longer in case it’s a schwalbe thing.

I’ve run Hutchinson Fusion 5s for the last year - 2,500 miles before replacing with only one puncture - on the horribly rainy puncture feat that was RideLondon last year- that didn’t seal so it was a tube at the time - repaired with a patch on the inside later and the tyre did another 2,000 miles after.

I replaced them as the rear was squared off - considered keeping the front but just did boyh. They both had multiple puncture that has clearly sealed and weren’t noticed at the time - only became visible when the tyres deflated during winter storage (small weeps of sealant).


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 7:53 pm
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I'm pretty new to road riding, always thought it wasnt for me... so my 1st ever road bike (as I'd such success on my mtb) came with tubeless and here we are... so I cant really compare with tubes... this particular puncture occurred doing a C2C about 10 miles from the end, I only new it's actually punctured as my arm was covered in sealant and it got me to the end having lost next to no air.

Banged a tube in there for this weekend's commute and ordered a repair kit 👍🏻


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 8:46 pm
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I’m tubeless on road. Been brilliant. Was schwalbe until new conti TL came out. Fitted a pair in April and I’ve done 6500km on them across Europe. Last two years I used schwalbe. Both faultless. I’ve seen the front puncture and stans come out in a jet. Kept cycling and it sealed. I’m sure I had other punctures that I never saw. I do put double the amount of sealant in and top it up regularly. It will get used up or dry out I find in a couple months.

I’ve never repaired my tyres even left the thorns stuck in them on the last pair.

Currently enjoying the heat wave in NE Spain 🙂


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 8:48 pm
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found a relatively new gp4000 (most road tyres probably do but the gp4000 have a good rubber covering that sticks well) after sidewall blew makes brilliant repair tubeless patches used with typical patch glue.... 1 tyre should last me about 20+ years


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 8:55 pm
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I found pro ones to be very puncture-prone and also hard to seal (thin carcass the cause of both IMO).
Sectors worked much better for me (lots of flinty gravel on my local roads)


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 9:04 pm
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I found pro ones to be very puncture-prone and also hard to seal (thin carcass the cause of both IMO).
Sectors worked much better for me (lots of flinty gravel on my local roads)

I found exactly the same!


 
Posted : 27/06/2019 9:33 pm
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+ 1 for Dynaplug

Run Schwalbe Pro Ones and Maxxis RE-Fuses and so far everything I've picked up has been plugged by the roadside no trouble, although I have had to use 2 plugs on bigger holes.

The air system that inflates the tyre at the same time is pracically witchcraft but not cheap.


 
Posted : 28/06/2019 11:07 am
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I've got Hutchinson Fusions, no complaints on grip so far and no punctures (touch wood, only ~400 miles or so so far though).

Surely the eventual solution is to put a tube in them for the rest of their life, not bin them?


 
Posted : 28/06/2019 11:29 am
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Then you've got a needlessly heavy and tight tyre though...

I was totally underwhelmed by road tubeless. I didn't have any flats, but they lost air, in a couple of cases between cycling to work and coming home again which even latex tubes are fine with, and I saw no benefits.

Tubes on the road, tubeless on the MTB.


 
Posted : 28/06/2019 11:54 am
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I didn’t have any flats

That's the only benefit I need!

(Spesh Roubaix Pro 2Bliss working for me.)


 
Posted : 28/06/2019 12:01 pm
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Tubeless tyres are the closest thing to Tubs in terms of compliance.


 
Posted : 28/06/2019 6:24 pm
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Tubeless tyres are the closest thing to Tubs in terms of compliance.

And in a blind taste test the users of this forum would not be able to identify which bike had tubeless/tubs/tubes without the visual clues.


 
Posted : 28/06/2019 6:55 pm
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Just coz your arse isn’t that sensitive Terry, doesn’t mean others aren’t more discerning.
Recently switched to road tubeless and definitely more supple on our lovely Angus roads


 
Posted : 28/06/2019 7:06 pm
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I'm not knocking road tubeless clubby - I'm running it on the propel it was more trying to compare them to tubs as if they were some sort of God like status of tire technology

And while I feel a difference a bit of that is down to the wider tires and rims that are fashionable these days and the majority of it is the lower pressures that tubeless let's you run.

85psi these days in a 25c on an slr1 carbon Vs 110 on my old conti gp 22c on a cxp 22

When I inflated the tubeless to 110psi it felt the same as the old bike.


 
Posted : 29/06/2019 8:21 am

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