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Hello,

Any gear gurus able to tell me if a 10 speed setup of 11-28 cassette with a 39/53 will give a similar range to a 10 speed compact setup of 11-25 cassette with a 34/50 please?

Thanks 🙂


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 8:12 pm
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Sheldon Brown website has a calculator on it.

Just by inspection 50x11 will be a lower top end than 53x11.


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 8:21 pm
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The bottom ratios (34:25 or 39:28) are almost identical. As above, you'll lose the top end on the smaller chain set and the gap is bigger between the two front sprockets. Whether you'll need a 53t front ring depends how hard you like to pedal down hills.

So I'd go for the 11-28 and 39/53 option.


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 8:27 pm
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53/11 = 4.81
50/11 = 4.54

so 53/11 is about 6% harder.

39/28 = 1.39
34/25 = 1.36

so 34/25 is about 2% easier.

The gap between two consecutive sprockets is usually between about 6% and 15%, so not a lot in it.


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 8:32 pm
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If you're talking 10spd Shimano, remember there's a 12-30 cassette option in both Tiagra and Ultegra groupsets too, which means you could have an easier bottom gear than with a compact and an 11-25 cassette!


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 8:42 pm
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I like going fast, but also like climbing hills. Would the 12-30 be the best option with the 39/50 then?


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 9:25 pm
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going from 11 to 12 has a pretty big impact
working in gear inches

50-12 110.0
50-11 119.7

so cadence had to be 10% higher to maintain same speed
for comparison

compact
50-11 119.7
34-25 35.8

53-11 126.8
39-28 36.8
39-30 34.2

depends on hills and fitness stating the obvious - a lot of fit roadies don't use compacts but think 10% is steep

I like this calculator [url] http://www.bikecalc.com/cadence_at_speed [/url] if you know what sort of cadence you do before spinning out and the slowest you can tolerate climbing at it helps


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 11:12 pm
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Low gears are about the same. I race on 50/34 and 11/23. I also race ob 52/39 and 12/25 (and 11/23). The top gear is the same as 52/12 and I can't say that, even sprinting, I'm really needing more high gears. The 12/28 and 12/30 blocks have one big jump middle and I noticed it when I raced with the compact. Personally, for general riding, lower gears are better. If it is going to be lumpy, go with compact and learn to spin properly.


 
Posted : 10/03/2014 11:49 pm
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11 speed 'mid' compact an option, 52/36 with an 11-25 or 28?


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 12:10 am
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Unless you realy want that 53/11 which is a pretty tall gear for us mortals, ( honestly you'll only spin it out on few British roads) I'd go for the compact with the 25/11. You get closer gears which for me anyway make for a more enjoyable ride.


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 12:15 am
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Unless you realy want that 53/11 which is a pretty tall gear for us mortals, ( honestly you'll only spin it out on few British roads)

...and if you're not a pro roadie, the chances are you'd be faster tucking once you've spun out 53/12


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 1:24 am
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I'd stick with compact chainrings and opt for 11-25.
To be honest if you like heading out for the hills I'd consider opting for a cassette with a little more range, perhaps something with a 26/27.
Climbs in the UK (or at least my area) tend to be short and sharp, nothing worse than hitting a sharp climb deep into a ride when your legs go tired and not being able to spin a decent cadence, it's a recipe for knee pain.


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 6:35 am
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Thank for all of the replies guys 🙂 I've just notices that Shimano now do a 36/52 which may be a happier middle ground, anyone used this ration at all?


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 7:02 am
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I use 50/36 with 11-23, gets me up pretty much anything and isn't too far away from a standard in terms of gear inches.

I put a 12-27 on the back for the Alps, which helped on the longer stuff.

I'd happily go 52/36 and 25 on the back, maybe even a 28 if I was going to spend time in the mountains again.

Think the 11 nay not be worth it with a 52, depends on what you're sacrificing for it?


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 7:14 am
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Basically I would like a bit more top end speed for sprints, I'm currently finding that with 50-11 I'm having to up the cadence dramatically for the higher top end. Does anyone know if the newer 6800 Ultegra chain sets are backwards comparable with 10 speed systems?


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 7:28 am
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I run a 50/34 compact up front and 11-28 out back, there's a bit of a gap in te middle but nothing too worry about too much. I don't race and rather like to spin up climbs as opposed to busting my guy for the sake of a bigger crank set


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 8:26 am

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