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So, does anyone do it?
I tried it for a short period on my fixie before swapping to fixed, bike is long since sold but I'm thinking of going back to SS on my crossbike (which is also used on the road).
Are there any benefits? I found it a bit spinny, wrong gear all the time sort of stuff but I'm just wondering if I need to experiment with gearing?
I used to, but that was when I was 10 and my only bike was a BMX
I found it a bit of a PITA too, not tried fixed though.
On the MTB it doesn't feel so bad pushing a big gear up a hill or quickpedal/coast allong the flats, but on the the road bike it just didn't feel right.
With a bit of luck I will be doing it very soon. Might go fixed though, hills are more fun when you do 200rpm clipped in 😉
I find my 48:18 Pompino great for my 20 mile ew, undulating commute, sadly having to visit client sites limits the chances I have of doing it regularly.
yep I ride ss road - and it's great. Don't do it fixed - I use BMX freewheels... It's a spesh tricross, so in winter it's a 48x16 or 18. And in summer it seems to go back to 42x18 for recovery rides & blasts off road. it'll stay that way this year for a few cross races (might do 3 peaks on it!) then when winter kicks in and I don't want the shiny road bike to get skanky, it'll go back to roadie speed/legs mullered on climbs mode.
might even dabble with fixed again next winter...
I ride 48:16 on my ss and would totally rate it as a training method.
Theres nothing else for it but too go for it on them hills on a ss so you are building everything up 🙂
Go for it Id say!!
it is a great training tool IMO - your only options are to hammer uphill and spin fast down 🙂
Yup, I've got a cotic roadrat and use ss with a freewheel. Rode a fixed pompino a few years back but had a few near misses and decided it was too dangerous, well for me anyway.
The only issue I sometimes have is spinning out on long descents, not a big problem though.
46:16 fixed. Can hurt after a while though. Hills are a laugh but headwinds and long straight sections can get tiresome.
48:17 I think my pompino is, used as a commuter cos there's less to go wrong, if I could ride fixed I would for the same reason (might give it another go soon) Can manage hills on it ok, bloody steep ones if your legs are fresh, but one road near us (Smithills Dean rd) is long, straight, featureless with a constantly steep gradient, only been up that once and it was soul destroying (headwind, rain and darkness didn't help)
I commute on a 46:14 fixed. I've found it great for building up strength in my legs to get me up steeper stuff on the other bikes. Main reason though is it's great fun, and virtually zero maintenance. I'd highly recommend it.
Another 48:16 convert. To be fair though I use it rarely now, spinning on long flats is boring mind, undulating hills are fine but any downhill and it's just odd. In town it's just enough to dog out on and break free of traffic, fixed's a no no where I live.
Im running 49:16 on my Giant at the moment, that is mainly used for commuting (between 10 and 25each way). Do the odd 100k at weekends on it too.
Again I agree its great training, shame I managed to destroy BB and bend crankarms and totaled pedal bearings trying to get up a 1in5 a few weeks ago.
I use it for track occasionally to (local outdoor one) and it just works wonders everywhere.
For a few years I was riding fixed (I live in South London so a lot of my journeys were in lovely flat London), 42:16, spinny but very enjoyable. It's only in the past month that somebody stole my wheels which gave me an excuse to build up a new bike (I had a Pro2 SS hub lying around), and so I built up a Pompetamine singlespeed, 44:16, and so far I can't believe I rode fixed for so long. I enjoyed fixed for the zen like connection I thought I was feeling, but to be honest, it's a much more zen like feeling when you're coasting down a hill instead of wobbling side to side as the momentum of the cranks overtakes the maximum momentum of your knees.
SS on road is great, I ride 48:17 on my Langster. It was 48:16 for quite a while but maybe I'm just getting weak and feeble. High 70's" gearing is about perfect for me, makes you attack the hills while still allowing speeds of about 34mph before I spin out completely.
On the other hand, I can't stand SS off-road.
have 48x18 on mine in 28c tyres.. in freewheel mode on pearson touche
not bad gear on run in from Woking to London average cadence 90..
would be nice to have a bigger gear for parts of the route
might try a 48x16...
was also looking at fitted a SA 2 speed hub gear - back pedal to change
Thanks for the replies chaps
I'm specifically looking at SS rather than fixed as I found the riding I do causes me quite a bit of knee pain on a fixie.
I like the idea of zero maintenance (or at least drastically reduced), sounds like I should give it another go!
I do find the lack of maintenance & expense in winter grime great! I find new chains need a couple of re-tensions shortly after install, but they settle down after a couple of tweaks.
agree that freewheeled ss is MUCH kinder to the knees!
I've found gearing to be important on ss - 48x16 used as a commuter in sheffield, I hated it after the novelty wore off... but once gearing was sorted for specific applications/periods of year, it's great!
I've given up! Just finished turning my trek marlin ss into a 1x9. As mentioned above the flats/downhills killed me. But never went fixed though, would've destroyed my knees.
Sort of, I use to to commute but mostly avoid roads, I live in the flat planet though, so no hills, just whipping around. Personally I'm simple so a simple bike rocks!
Depends where you live and what your usual routes are?
Seems pointless if you want to ride up hills.
JMHO but when I ride my 2:1 ratio HT for 3 miles on roads to get off road, it's a completely yawn-worthy experience, it's when you get off road and onto bumpy singletrack that it all makes sense.
Might be worth doing to a CX bike for singletrack purposes, but road bike, I'm not so sure.
Seems pointless if you want to ride up hills.
not for me!! i like hills and their challenge... getting up them in a single gear bottom to top is rather satisfying & brings fitness on (aerobic & strength) no end!!
Fixed here.
Advantages: None
Disadvantages: Everything.
If you're doing the same commute every day then getting the gearing right can happen quite quickly. The only time I have problems is on the hilly muddy bits, if it's proper muddy that big old gear can be tricky to move.
2:1 is boring on road, but the OP wanted it for a road bike. I run about 3:1 on my road bike which I find fun enough 🙂
not for me!! i like hills and their challenge... getting up them in a single gear bottom to top is rather satisfying & brings fitness on (aerobic & strength) no end!!
Depends what sort of hills your riding I guess. A weekend ride for me usually involves at least 1 or 2 25% inclines and I wouldnt be able to push an ss up that (or at least one that could be useful on the flat anyway)
Fit people on track-geared singlespeeds are among the most worthy commuter adversaries in the race that dare not speak its name. Even when you eventually drop them, just before throwing up there is the nagging doubt they would have had you if they had gears - you never feel like you've 'won'. And especially if they have a solid trackstand (ie riding fixed).
Fashion driven factory built 42:16 slowcoaches are among the least worthy.
Choose wisely...
Need to be proper fit to do it justice.
It was funny watching DrP killing it last week on the Asthma Beach to Beach 140 miler, finishing first out of 200 starters on an old steel fixie, legs spinning at 100mph at 38mph down hills and churning up the hills dropping us all (Bas**rd!)
Used to ride 48:16 fixed on my Paddy Wagon. Great commuter bike. Flats and uphills were no probs but downhills were a bit sketchy at times. Riding a Genesis iO currently at 32:16 free and although it's a bit spinny on the flats I'm not finding it too dull. I'm learning to spin to keep momentum but it's not nearly as fast as the fixed! Tempted to get a flip flop hub so I can ride it fixed too..
I would just like to caveat my post that if you have hills on your commute and are as ancient as most of us, then track gearing is dumb.
Unless you are the Hutch/elite/etc.
cp - Membernot for me!! i like hills and their challenge... getting up them in a single gear bottom to top is rather satisfying & brings fitness on (aerobic & strength) no end!!
Bottom line of this is that the highest gear I can brute my way up the hill in on the way home- which is still reasomably high- is massively too low for riding down the hill on the way there. So i go with doublespeed, I've got one gear I use on the way and another on the way back, and therefore get all the fitness benefits without being late for work
Er think I'm 48:16 (might be 46:16) - for commuting - but I have done a couple of longer rides. Mainly did it for the lack of maintenance (for which it is great). Haven't found it annoying spinning downhill or grinding uphill at all (certainly less annoying than maintaining gears), though I guess that could change if I was out on big road rides every week.
I generally enjoy not having gears though, on road and off. I only really like gears for big bouncy bikes & big rocky hills.
Personally, much as I love my SS road bike, I don't find it's a good training device - quite the opposite, since as soon as you get up to speed it doesn't want to go faster (I'm on 42:16), and generally I put just as much climbing effort in on gears anyway. Gears make me work harder overall. But I'm a bit of a big old masher - I don't like spinning fast.
The SS is perfect for winter/wet rides, though, and it's great for forcing the muscles back into shape if you've let yourself go a bit. And it's just nice for just riding along without bothering about gears or having the slight noise of the chain turning jockey wheels.
I'm with bez, my ss is 46 something, most i did was about 40 miles on it. Changed to gears to prep for a half ironman and find it so different
ran around a 2:1 SS mtb for about 6years now as a town/ shopper/ fill in bike for when the big bike is under maintaince (half the bloody time!).
running it round on the road bloody sucks though, so slow and essentially undergeared.
ran a fixed conversion road bike around for a few months, especially when visiting cities and thats been great, helped build up the early season muscles and zero maintainance required. Now its drier the geared road bike comes out. But don't really see the point in a singlespeed road bike, unless its a zero maintainance shopper.
My Roadrat has been ss for several years. Did all my road training for kielder on it last year so up to 100 mile rides. 42:16 - wouldn't go higher as commute with panniers full of books.
I'm looking at getting geared bike though - I want to go faster on road on new, longer commute.
Off-road I hate gears. Recently built a 1x9 but find myself in same gear all the time.
i commute from 1 end of bristol to the other so have a very spinny gear 39-16 as the only flat bit for me is in the center whare the trafic is riding as s singlespeeded carrera road bike with spacer kit managed to get magic ratio luckely so no tentioner.
Um 48 : 17 doing 34mph ... that's some serious rpm or fishermans tales
I'm a lightweight (SS-wise, not physically).
26" wheeled 'urban' MTB SS - running 40:16 which is fine for pootling to and from work for me. not massively fast on the flats but easyish on the few hills we have round here and good for the plenty of wind we enjoy.
slainte 😀 rob
I'm also Bristol, so 40 X 16. We have a few hills.....
42:13.- parts bin build...short 5 mile blast to work can be fast or easy depending on your mood. - no real hills to speak of
Chuck it in the bike shed, dont worry if it gets kicked about, ride home, repeat.
42:20 on a loaded surly cross check, 7 days to ssec in Belgium.
That is a good offroad or loaded bike onroad ratio.
42:16 or 48:18 on a surly steamroller. It works. Attack climbs and carry your speed, don't touch the brakes
Just like offroad ss. I don't find it tedious but it's pretty twisty and hilly round here. If you live in Norfolk you might find it repetitive.
One of the advantages of offroad ss is your gears don't get ****ed up with mud. This is not relevant on road as gears seem to last years.
I have a Langster for sale at the moment. has a flip flop back wheel with fixie one side and ss freewheel on the other. Dead easy to use and easy to swap gears.
size is XL which is a 58 seat c-t and 58 top. Polished frame. All good condition. Used mainly as Fixie on road but not had much usage except when my winter bike was in need of tlc. Being away with my job more means I 'm just not around enough to use this as well as other bikes I have in garage.
I have an advert in the For Sale section, just search Langster.
The frame has just actually been dropped off at Specialized shop as when cleaning for sale I found some corrosion, I think, and they are going to try to get a frame replacement. Therefore the bike for sale will hopefully be a brand new frame with the original wheels and bits(not that there are many bits on a fixie/ss).
Running 42:18 on my Roadrat and (just) manage a very hilly 5 mile commute here on Dartmoor. About 5 mins quicker than on a geared hardtail too - much more fun although admittedly more knackering. If I'm honest there is one hill on the way back which I have to push for about 100yds, but it's one of those classic Devon inclines where you struggle to keep the front wheel planted anyway.
I actually bought all the kit to convert the RR to geared before we moved here, but not sure I'll bother as it's too much fun as it is. I still like having the geared bike as a backup though.
I'm also Bristol, so 40 X 16. We have a few hills.....
a few... i have glos rd that one long hill in the morning and redcatch/totterdown on the way home
I too have a part of Glo road, and up Cromwell Road every day...
Park Street every time I go up to Ashton Court after work or for the Monday Cheesy rides.........
I commute on singlespeed using 32:16 ratio. In winter most of the route is on road / tarmac
48-16 on my langster was great for relatively flat Northamptonshire. Not quite as fast as my geared bike, but it definitely made me work hard on climbs and improved my fitness loads.
I don't how people running 48 16-17 can manage to maintain 90rpm for any length of time....thats 35mph (57kph)!!!
I ran 39-16 all last summer for a 19mile (one big hill) commute and averaged 28-30mph average most days,which is about the same average speed as the 3rd cat crits I race.
Or do you just pedal REALLY slowly??
im a spinner so the 49-16 gearing suits me fine avrg about 18-25mph most of the trip apart from the one steep hill on way home which im strugling with atm
My morning commute is ~20 miles and it takes me just over 2 hours usually, giving an average speed of around 9mph
On the way home I take a flater multi-user route and cover the 18 miles in around 1 hour 40 minutes.
Looks like I would be getting overtaken quite a bit if the respondants in this thread lived round my way!
Spinner?! 49-16 at average 21mph is average cadence of 54rpm.....your knees must ache a bit 😉
all that gumf dousent really bother me it gets me 15 miles and still able to work after its actualy the only road going bike iv owned that i am fully happy with bar the creaky bb lol
just one guy on a cinneli(sp) track bike on my rout i want to try and catch...
YEAH RIGHT !
Rorschach - Member
Spinner?! 49-16 at average 21mph is average cadence of 54rpm.....your knees must ache a bit
Huh? Which idiot taught you maths?
Hang on I'll get a pen this time...
49-16=3.0625
700c @23c=2.1m dia
54 revolutions per minute
Divide by 1.6 for mph
Yeah you might have a point Mr Barnes 😳
A hundred lines "I will check my workings before posting on STW" o.k??
ok, a 3 to 1 ratio with 700c wheels (48-16 or close)
90rpm is 20ish mph which is the kind of tempo you can bowl along all day
140rpm (which is the maximum that an average joe can either hold on the flat for shortish bursts or live with downhill without getting flicked over the handlebars when riding fixed) gets to around 30mph
note that I'm not being too specific on the numbers, because the odd tooth change doesn't make that much difference and your cadence goes up and down but you don't worry too much about it cos you have no choice 🙂
I ride fixed in and out of work every day and year round, I'm no riding god but I find it good to keep me fit and it's beautifully low maintenance
😛 to u lol dident think it was that bad
Yeah you might have a point Mr Barnes
I've been drinking for several hours this evening as well 🙂
FWIW, I run 48x19 with 25mm tyres on my pompino. I need to find another 7rpm from somewhere to break the 200rpm barrier (or find a bigger hill)
At 200rpm the flux capacitor kicks in and you go back to the future...
48/18 is my usual. CTBM's comment about attacking hills is bang on.
I've done some reasonable length rides in the Highlands on my single speed, eg Dingwall/Ullapool/Ledmore/Bonar/Dingwall, and also the Bealach sportive to name a couple.
[i]700c @23c=2.1m dia[/i]
Where "dia" = circumference? 🙂
Its shorthand for us drunk people....
42/18 fixed here. Find it's perfect for recovery rides & working a spin. Hit 34mph down hill last week according to my computer - don't know what cadence that is but it made the other rider I caught & pass lol!
usedto, then i got an alfine hub, best of both worlds.
