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Noticed in the ebike thread funkmasterp does their rides from the door. Seen a few others often say they wont drive to the trails.

Whilst a refusal to take what might be deemed uneccessary car journeys is admirable from an environmental point of view, does it massively restrict your riding?

Now, I'm not the most environmentally concious person in the world. I do bits though. Driving wise, I do 30k a year in a 3l diesel 4x4 (partly by choice, partly for work), so a 20 mile trip to the trails doesn't really register as a planet killer (in my mind).

But for me and where I live, realistically, without major hassle, I'd be missing out on riding the Peak. I also drive to trail centres, but could live without them.

Do you have riding a stones throw away, that is just too far/inaccessible for a half day/days riding that you refuse to drive to?


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 9:50 am
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tonnes of riding, 0 tech/massively fun. If i wanted to be a gravel/Ridegway biker i'm in the perfect place.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 9:54 am
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Being able to ride from my door was an important factor in where I live.  Not to save the planet but for sheer convenience.  I drive plenty of places to ride but always want the option of riding from the door.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 9:56 am
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With the odd exception of a couple of trips a year I always ride from the door.

I'm based in West Yorkshire, the lower Calder Valley. So have a range of riding from woodland, urban, canals and moorland.

Obviously you need to use some roads to link the trails up but we certainly have enough to keep me interested.

It's mostly XC but there are more technical routes in the woods if you want.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:00 am
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Leicestershite is exactly that for good riding. ‘Cheeky’ is available locally but not very inspiring and a total swamp ATM. Nearest decent riding is Cannock off-piste and the Peak but they’re 45 and 6o miles away so driving needed. We did a trip up to Wharncliffe last week which was a 132 mile round trip to do a winch and plummet 13 mile fun session, which is a bonkers return for the travelling involved. We do a few Snowdonia/Long Mynd/Lakes/Golfie trips a year too but they are all multiple ride events so ‘worth’ it. Would love some good decent tech/lumpy rides from the door but you can’t easily alter where you live…


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:00 am
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Loads of mountain bike route books with routes that start from train stations, so that is a possibility.

I'm lucky to have some local trails so can ride from the door but if I wanted to ride further afield then it is possible it would just take a lot longer and would require some logistical planning. But this would be solo riding, if doing with a couple of friends then it becomes a lot harder to plan due to limited space on trains.

Much better to car share. 


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:01 am
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Yes, almost entirely as packing up car/driving etc. just eats in to limited available riding time.

Ultimately thought it's why I'm such a massive convert to gravel, I can link together lots of (typically pedally and short) singletrack sections with gravel sections and road sections and it's all fun.

In fact it's amazing just how much good singletrack you can find with this approach, I don't think I've ever had as many 'new' trails to explore from my doorstep 😎


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:02 am
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If I had more time then I’d probably drive to places to ride more often but about 95% of my MTBing is from my door. We don’t use the car much, total mileage for the family is only about 8k which is mostly from visiting relatives and holidays - kids and wife walk to school/work and I cycle to work. But that’s only possible because we live near the edge of a city with a national park a few minutes ride away.

I’m looking into getting a tow bar rack for more family cycling opportunities (they don’t all want to ride up a hill to a load of (v muddy right now) rooty twisty singletrack, and so I can take my bike more often when we visit relatives.

I’m not that keen on the idea of always driving to ride, the environmental issue does bother me - and if doing so I’d prefer to fill a car with people and bikes rather than travel separately.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:04 am
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No, but then this is what outside my door:

I'm not particularly interested in technical riding so not travelling is really more to do with the hassle factor for me. I really can't be bothered to do a four hour round trip just to go cycling.

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Being able to ride from my door was an important factor in where I live.

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With the odd exception of a couple of trips a year I always ride from the door.

Partly it's laziness, partly just being time-efficient. I always had a rule that ride time had to be greater than total drive time, it's just that I've taken that to an extreme. I do intend riding slightly further afield this year though.


 
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I am spoilt a bit. Have hundreds of kms of gravel virtually from the door,  can drive to work via good parks, ride to bona fide DH, or  can commute via gravel and singletrack.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:07 am
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I'm another lucky one, I've 3 riding spots (all with enduro-type trails) within a 10 mile ride of home and can XC pretty much there/back. Plus Golfie/Innes/GT/Thornielee are all within 30 mins in the car too.

90% of my gravel riding is from home too - one approach I did recently is to ride the 5 miles to the train station and then get off 30 mins away and then ride home on as much off-piste as possible (latest route was 50 miles & 5500 feet home).


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:10 am
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I used to ride from the door loads, but then we moved. Now I'd spend more time riding my MTB on-road than off. So I drive.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:13 am
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I can understand the concern about riding from the door could result in repetition and a lack of variety.

I'm fortunate and live right by the SDNP.  While it lacks any great altitude it is huge and has an incredible trail network with a good mix of riding options and choice...  Gravel, XC, Steeps, flows, tech.  I do still drive to ride on occasions, but it's not frequent.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:21 am
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I mostly ride from my door. I typically do a handful of "trips" a year with riding mates, which usually consist of a 30-ish min van trundle to some precipitous woodland slightly outside of comfortable riding distance.

Whilst a refusal to take what might be deemed uneccessary car journeys is admirable from an environmental point of view, does it massively restrict your riding?

...so, yes, it does massively restrict your riding from a geographic perspective. I've ridden in MTB in Wales once, in the Peak once, and in the Lakes once, having been at it since 2016.

But, on the other hand -- no, it does not massively restrict my riding, because my riding is actually more time-restricted than anything else. Family and general life commitments mean that I can't readily zip off for riding weekends, or even add a couple of extra hours travel time to a Sunday morning ride on a regular basis. If I was driving all the time to ride, I'd be swapping bike time for driving time.

It helps that riding is pretty good around here. Varied terrain and difficulty levels, plus an active local MTB scene means that new trails pop up from time to time, and existing stuff is developed and maintained.

So ultimately, living where I live makes it possible to ride local the vast majority of the time, which in turn makes it possible for me to ride more than I would otherwise. If that makes sense.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:25 am
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I've got good trails from the door, but I get a bit bored riding the same stuff over and over again so I'm always likely to drive a bit to ride - especially since most of my riding is playing in steep woods and a hilly 'commute' to reach the trails cuts massively into the time and energy available.

I do care about environmental stuff though, so the driving bothers me and I wonder if an ebike would help here. I don't particularly want one from a riding perspective but one might open up a few extra spots for riding from the door.

Edit - Kramer's point below about carbon footprints of driving and a potential ebike is a good one. I'd need to make a lot of trips for the maths to add up... Maybe I just need to pull on my big socks and start riding what I've got to those spots further away.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:31 am
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Whilst a refusal to take what might be deemed uneccessary car journeys is admirable from an environmental point of view, does it massively restrict your riding?

Bit of a daft question as it 100% depends on where you live.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:33 am
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Pentland Hills and local trails from the door, which is mostly fine but the appeal of Tweed Valley trails 25mins drive down the road means close to 50/50 split between from the door and driving.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:33 am
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Unfortunately living in Suffolk I have to drive for any decent riding, so usually make a weekend of it.  It doesn't help the environment but I do help the local economies around the country by staying in B&Bs, eat in the local pubs/restaurant etc.


 
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The carbon footprint of driving to mountain bike far outweighs the footprint of making the bike AFAIK.

I try to:

  • Ride from the door for fitness riding.
  • Use the train to get to places to ride as much as possible.
  • Car share as much as possible when I can't use the train.

It takes some planning, and it can be a bit limiting, but it's amazing what is accessible.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:41 am
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Plenty of gravel/xc riding from my door and that's what I'm doing most of simply because it's more accessible. There's some tech about but I really need to drive to make use of my full suss or longer travel hard tail, albeit not too far.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:42 am
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I do nearly all my riding from my doorstep. I kinda have the opposite problem now, the cars don't get used enough.


 
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can easily ride from home with a steady 20 min road spin to the woods. However, very often i still drive up - the way i look at it is, its an extra 40mins on the good stuff.
Will happily ride from home if time allows, but riding habits change and at the moment its little and often rather than a big one once a week...
We live about 1.5hrs from south Lakes, peaks or north wales. used to to visit these places all the time, almost weekly. have not been in at least 12 months!?


 
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I have ridden from the door for 100% of my rides in all of my 50 years of riding. But then I don't do downhill MTB and am happy to ride whatever I have.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 10:46 am
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I'm similar to Kramer. Maybe 70% of my riding is from the door, however one or twice a month in the drier months I'll drive or get the train somewhere to ride. (Usually 30 min - 1hr 15 each way, depending where we are going)
Try to lift share wherever possible.


 
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Whilst a refusal to take what might be deemed uneccessary car journeys is admirable from an environmental point of view, does it massively restrict your riding?

Yes, obviously it restricts my riding, but in much the same way eeebers will tell you they're trying to achieve more with their limited time, sitting in a car for 2-4 hours in order to do 2-3 hours of actual riding doesn't appeal to me every weekend. If I get a whole day for riding, it's a rarity now, and spending half of that sat in a car can really take the shine off.

As it is I mostly get the odd half day at weekends, often with a bit of a cut-off time to be back, riding a loop I know from the door or doing a bit of limited exploring tends to work well with the constraints I have to deal with...


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:00 am
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I also have to say, even living in an un-promising area (East Cheshire) I've been pleasantly surprised by what I've managed to find outside my door, even if it is a bit cheeky.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:05 am
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I do 95% of road riding from door as have huge selection of rides in Dumfries - mtb from door for quick fun one to two hours riding but mainly drive to trails which arent far but cuts out a load of what would be dull riding on the road with a MTB


 
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95% of my riding is from the door. On the edge of the Surrey hills I can often get a morning "WFH commute" 1-1.5hrs all off road and pretty technical. Same for % road riding


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:10 am
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Last year made a conscious effort to ride more local stuff and started to appreciate what i have on the doorstep a lot more, since moved to an even better area and can ride from the door and access plenty good trails, gravel and longer days. 

Will still use the car maybe once a month for a trail centre or somewhere further type day. 

Really hate 2hr drives to ride, but sometimes its a necessary evil.


 
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I'd say 90% of my riding is done from my front door. For mainly two reasons, first being loading my bike into the boot of my car is a faff, and then you've gotta drive to where you wanna ride, then if your bike is covered in mud or you are, the car becomes an absolute mess on the drive home, and driving home when your absolutely paggered isn't fun I'd rather get back, shove the bike in the shed, get showered and crash out after a particularly exhausting ride and if I'm travelling somewhere to ride I always feel pressured to do as much as possible/go as hard as possible.
The second reason being most of my riding is done solo, I always feel like the effort to drive somewhere to go riding is worth it with others but pointless on my own.

I'm still waiting on the delivery of the roof bars from car dealership I was promised so that may change slightly as I'll probably find it easier to throw the bike on the roof than wheel off seats down and in the boot, but I still probably won't go that far.

For me it's nothing to do with carbon footprint or enviromentalism it's just convenience, and the trails and riding near me is enough to sate the appetite most of the time, and I'm lucky enough to live a 10 minute ride away from a 100ha woodland, it's not the highest being 158m above sea level, but you can do lots of laps and the trail networks are like rat runs so you're spoilt for choice, it's all short, sharp and steep.


 
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If I could only ride from my door I'd sell all my bikes and quit riding.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:15 am
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99% is from the door.  I used to quite regularly throw the bike in the car for Aston Hill or Swinley.<br />I (we) have not been away with the bikes since before CV19.<br />I have a great mix of local riding here in the Chilterns, but nothing to justify the FS.


 
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South Manchester here, and I can ride from my door to the TPT and even get to the Peak by bike if I'm feeling energetic, so much of my riding is that, but I've also got Calderdale, The majority of Peaks within an hour's (more or less) drive, and North Wales and the Lakes within 1.5-2 hours drive away, so I will go to those places, although I try to limit how often I do it. 


 
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For anyone that might be interested to see why 90% of my riding is done locally, heres a video of Danny Hart ripping it up at my local woods


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:28 am
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I can't remember the last time I drove anywhere to ride.  Very lucky where I live to have the Peak District within striking distance that I ride from the door (MTB, road) all the time.  It's not by accident that we live here....

I'll take the bike when we visit family etc... and ride from their door.

I'm actually a bit determined this year to ride a trail centre or two and do some big rides elsewhere whilst on holiday.  Not done that for a while.  Not driving just for the ride, more integrating the ride into being elsewhere.


 
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does it massively restrict your riding?

Depends how you look at it.

I could do a 3+ hour gravel / old fashioned XC loop from my door, probably every day of the week without repeating too many trails / routes. I don't live in a "great" area for riding, the Thames Valley is pretty much defined by being wide flat and muddy art this time of year. I just make the most of it when I do.

Or I could load the car, drive 25min to Swinley, unload the car, ride for 90min, load the car, drive 25min home.

Which is more restrictive?

Driving wise, I do 30k a year in a 3l diesel 4×4 (partly by choice, partly for work), so a 20 mile trip to the trails doesn’t really register as a planet killer (in my mind).

And some people think paper straws are enough to save the planet 🤷‍♂️

I think sustainability has to be viewed as a balance.

I now drive 0 miles for work, commute by bike, and do all my shopping by bike.

Probably only average one EU flight every other year.

I'm vegetarian.

Thermostat's set to 17.5C and the house has been insulated as far as reasonably possible (loft, cavity wall, double glazing), and has a new boiler + smart-ish thermostat.

I wouldn't have a personal issue if I decided I wanted to drive to Aldershot (about 30min drive) to ride the army land a couple of times a week as I think I've pretty much cut back as much as is practicable everything else I do that has an impact. I calculated it and my carbon footprint is still ~150% of the "sustainable" level, although the remainder is systemic stuff like the electrical grid or £££ stuff like a heat pump, solar + electric car.

Torn between given up trying to influence others and just doing a good job myself, and saying stuff it, I'll fly somewhere hot to go cycling 5 weeks a year, drive to Wales in a flash new van every other weekend and turn the thermostat up because I can afford to be bougie?


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:29 am
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The environmental impact of driving to ride is a very small factor in my choices, even though I drive very little anyway. The thought of flying to ride is just beyond me. 😀. 

My main local restriction is a very limited choice of roads. With one rideable road heading North and two converging roads heading South, there's a lot of repetition even to get a medium sized road ride in. 


 
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Whilst a refusal to take what might be deemed uneccessary car journeys is admirable from an environmental point of view, does it massively restrict your riding?

It’s not a refusal on my part, it’s the fact we live somewhere with a lot of riding (Forest of Dean) so I don’t really ‘need’ to go far. Part of the appeal of living here is we are on a forest track & I can literally be in the woods, riding a trail within a few minutes of leaving my garage.

The forest has a lot of zones, all of which are commutable by bike & we generally ride where we fancy on the day.

Do you have riding a stones throw away, that is just too far/inaccessible for a half day/days riding that you refuse to drive to?

The other advantage of being here is, within an hour, there is a huge amount of off piste Welsh gold we can get to. I don’t ride it as much as I would like to, but the reality when you have this much on your doorstep, you don’t need to travel so much.

I do enjoy an off piste Welsh Valleys day though 🙂


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:41 am
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During lockdown me and my son made a point of riding from the door every ride, every weekend (cos them was the roolz). It was ok, but involved a lot of tedious road riding to get to the offroad stuff. I can't be arsed with that mostly, though there are a couple of rides from my door (eg. out to Kingley Vale) that I like doing on my ebike.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 11:48 am
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95% riding from the door for me. North Leeds, so a great and varied network of trails, pockets of woodland etc. Gravel bike, HT, and FS all get used regularly and there's riding to suit each bike.

Mostly, it's about time. With other life stuff, and my need to ride regularly, ie 3-6 times per week, my riding windows are 1-3 hours, therefore I don't want to waste riding time by driving. Environmental impact of driving is a secondary consideration.

Usually get 2-3 weekends away through the year (Lakes, Boltby Bash), so drive then, invariably car-sharing.

And, certainly when the weather is better, will drive somewhere up to 1hr 15 away maybe once every 4-6 weeks, and try to car-share.


 
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When I lived in Calderdale I'd go a year at a time and only use the car to drive elsewhere a tiny handful (<5) times a year such was the quality and variation of riding on my doorstep. Live in York now and whilst there is some VERY tame stuff I could string together from my door, it generally involves large amounts or tarmac and flat BW so I tend to drive 30 minutes away. Not too bothered about the environmental impact since its usually the only time during the week the van moves...


 
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I mostly ride from my door, but thats pretty much all gravel or road riding. I've shit loads of gravel/bridleway riding from the door. If I want proper MTB though I have to go somewhere else in the car. I'm not driving somewhere an hour away a few times a week so my (proper) MTBing tends to be once a week if I've not got other commitments. Yeah I'd love to do more but my life doesn't revolve around MTB or bikes at all for that matter. Cycling is just something I like to do, when I can really.

I do have some trails near home, and whilst they can be fun, they would get pretty boring if I only ever rode those.


 
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If I could only ride from my door I’d sell all my bikes and quit riding.

Really? you wouldn't even look at your local area or maybe adapt your riding to suit the opportunities near by?

Are many people really that stuck on the idea that riding bikes means lots of travel every weekend?

I used to be away riding every other weekend when I was younger (20s) but it just wasn't sustainable once I had kids, and TBH I don't really enjoy driving now like 25 year old me did.


 
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Really? you wouldn’t even look at your local area or maybe adapt your riding to suit the opportunities near by?

Are many people really that stuck on the idea that riding bikes means lots of travel every weekend?

I did think that post was a bit defeatist! Yeah obviously churning around on a gravel bike is very different from steep gnar on an Enduro Sled, but if you open your mind to it you can have just as much of a slightly different sort of fun, if the legs will propel you that is (or, dare I say it, an e-bike 😂)

I remember being led along some very slippy, muddy and twisty (uphill!) singletrack by didn'thurt and still thinking (as I two wheel slid round a slightly uphill corner) that this is 90% of the fun I might have on an MTB, albeit I'm having to propel the bike with my legs rather than gravity.


 
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If I could only ride from my door I’d sell all my bikes and quit riding.

I kind of get what they mean. I've ridden for long enough that I know I'd get bored with the trails from the door after a while. They're fun, but I need a bit of variety. I wouldn't give up in a toys out of the pram style, but likely drift away from bikes and do other stuff with the odd ride now and then. Or I'd move house.


 
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Are many people really that stuck on the idea that riding bikes means lots of travel every weekend?

Fraid so mate. This weekend is FoD on Friday and Dyfi on Sat, possibly Surrey Hills on Sunday.... That's just how it is really. Bikes mean different things to different people, to me, local riding is great and fine... but sometimes/often it's not what's needed.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 12:57 pm
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I'm kind of rediscovering the love of "just riding" whatever we have locally, which is mostly limited to flat bridleways, singletrack through the woods and towpaths. I guess what would be considered "old school xc" or something. I kind of moved away from this over the years as I was always so focused on riding "proper" bikepark style trails with features/jumps/drops/techy bits, which then meant driving somewhere with some elevation was necessary for a proper ride. So yeah without driving I'm pretty limited as we just don't have the hills nearby, but the local stuff is a nice change of pace and I'm happy to get away from the idea that I have to travel miles to ride my bike.


 
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If I could only ride from my door I’d sell all my bikes and quit riding.

Really? you wouldn’t even look at your local area or maybe adapt your riding to suit the opportunities near by?

I have explored everything locally and it's all major roads, bumper to bumper traffic, parks full of empty cans and syringes, scrotes in ninja masks flying around on crossers and surrons.

I am quite fortunate to have high quality riding within a 30 to 40 minute drive but honestly, I've tried riding out from home or going for local missions and it's too grim.

I feel like this thread is going to separate the STW Richlist from the normals. It must be incredible to be able to choose where you live. I, like most people have to live in the only place I can afford and cling onto it.


 
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As others have stated if I had to ride from home all the time I would quit mtb riding. I might get a gravel bike but the mtbs would go. I would love to live somewhere I could ride form the door but the reality of work means that wont happen.

We have thought about moving to live where we like to ride but that would mean a much longer commute 5 days a week to avoid driving to ride at the weekend. To us it makes more sense to minimise the commute and accept driving to ride than the other way round


 
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I'm lucky enough to have 74km* of forest singletrack 4 miles from home, so I ride there and back and this continues most of my riding  But I also drive (a hybrid) to Hadleigh & Swinley to add variety and different perspectives on technical challenges.

On that note I'll also be spending 4 days in South Wales with junior as part fun, part technical experience, I also want to make the most of a road trip to my Gloucester office to ride the FoD trails - its a 20 miles extension to a journey I have to do anyway - in Spring / Summer.

Road rides in Hert's & Essex are always from the door.

*that I know of.


 
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I've loads of riding from my door, I can piece together a 90% offroad 30+mile loop quite easily - we've great riding in the area too. But god I'd be bored if I had to always ride from home.

Part of MTB to me is going to new places and exploring, can be a trail centre or a mountain range.

I'd say at least 70% of my riding this year has started with a car journey to a destination.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 1:12 pm
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Really? you wouldn’t even look at your local area or maybe adapt your riding to suit the opportunities near by?

Although this wasn’t aimed at me, I’m the same. If it was just gravel & flat woodland, I wouldn’t be riding bikes, as that’s not interesting to me.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 1:16 pm
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Like others, in a very flat bit of North Yorkshire so this is avbout the best bit of off-road riding I've got:

Local riding, mixed road/offroad along, if your very lucky, a flat double with bridleway/farm track, usually on a hardtail or gravel bike, is just about a bit of fresh air, exercise etc, but is absolutely not Mountain Biking.

"Mountain Biking" for me has always, and will always, involved getting in the car and going somewhere for a ride, into the hills or dales, or to a trail centre, or a race.

I have absolutely zero environmental guilt in doing this, especially given my massive reduction in recent years of sitting in a traffic jam for an hour every morning and evening in order to sit at my laptop in an office 30 miles away with my headphones.

@Hobnob

Although this wasn’t aimed at me, I’m the same. If it was just gravel & flat woodland, I wouldn’t be riding bikes, as that’s not interesting to me.

Ditto. If I never did 'proper' mountain biking Id sell the lot and get fat and lazy, or worse, play golf or fishing.


 
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I'm incredibly lucky to be able to ride from my front door.

Living in Rossendale via the Mary Townley Loop gives access to rolling moors, tight valley climbs as well as the trail centres in the Rossendale Valley.

I'm very blessed and love where I live.

Happy trails.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 1:19 pm
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No "real" MTB riding from my doorstep. It's mostly farm track bridleways and footpaths through the middle of fields. When the conditions are less wet then farm tracks and footpaths through the middle (or edges of) fields are much more preferable to riding on the roads. Most of my riding is commuting so by dedfinition, from my doorstep. We're a single car family and the car isn't always available to me to just go off for a ride somewhere nice with real singletrack - plus there's not time for that, or sometimes not energy after commuting. So I just make the most of what is available to me around here. I took up trials riding which is a great way of keeping general bike handling skills sharp for when I do go back on the trails. Lobbed some pallets, a low wall, etc, in the back of the garden by my shed to practice trails on or jump in car with trials bike and head to the nearest town. If out on the MTB will often head to the same spots and ride the stairsets down the cliffs (even the cliffs lack height around here :crying emoji:). Zig zag across ruts and up and down banks along farm tracks just to make things more a bit more fun/technical/hard work. If I want to treat myself then there's a few metres of singletrack amongst some trees next to a dyke! It's all rather flat in terrain and experiencec.


 
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lots of travel

It's a bit of driving. Not lots of travel.

My best From-the-doorstep trails. Yeah baby


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 1:25 pm
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Lucky enough to have good road and MTB riding from home - close to Peaks (SE Manchester). 99% of the time I ride from home. Occasionally go to a trail centre with mates, but it's usually part of an organised 'weekend' so car share etc and beer ! Much of my cycling is commuting, with weekend 'fun stuff' - Relatively time constrained though, don't often vanish for the day riding, maybe a couple of hours. Not an accomplished MTB'er, so XC with climbing and some descents (slowly compared to some) is fine by me. Can't jump - wheels on ground person.


 
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If I had to ride only from my door I’d quit mountain biking entirely and just get back into riding fixed gear again. Soggy bridleways and an hours road ride to the boring Ridgeway, no thanks.

This topic comes up fairly regularly and highlights some pretty enormous privilege. I’d love to live within cycling distance of FoD or Dyfi Forest but unfortunately (like many) a job that puts food on the table and affordable housing has to come first.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 1:55 pm
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Ride from my door to a mixture of country road, gravel, bridleways - nothing particularly technical but always great fun

I have driven to a riding spot in many years


 
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I feel like this thread is going to separate the STW Richlist from the normals. It must be incredible to be able to choose where you live. I, like most people have to live in the only place I can afford and cling onto it.

Given the price of petrol it's the other way around surely?

"This weekend is FoD on Friday and Dyfi on Sat, possibly Surrey Hills on Sunday" That's £100* just in fuel! And around a quarter of a ton of CO2 to boot!

*at petrol hatchback rates, considerably more in a van.


 
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My "from the door" is Swinley, and the adjacent MOD forests. A 2 hour evening blast, or I could put together a fun 4-5 hour loop.

Still enjoy a good trip, happily do so every weekend if other commitments didn't get in the way. Surrey hills, south wales, B1ke sites, races... All considered a treat or upgrade.

I enjoy the challenge/excitement of MTB. (Fitness and fresh air is an incidental benefit.) I have selected a bike that allows me to enjoy my local riding. Short travel trail bike and the understanding that I need to pedal for my speed, not rely on gravity.

I have wondered, if my local riding was "gravel" and I bought a suitably fashionable gravel bike to enjoy it, how would that affect my weekend/holiday riding. Would I relish a trip to ride the bouncy bike, or would I go all in on the gravel world?


 
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Another here that moved to a great riding spot.

I used to drive 70000 miles a year with my job and really grew to hate driving. My area was 1/4 of the UK. The car we have now is averaging about 3000 miles a year with two of us using it.

A day away from the Tweed Valley is a wasted day now. 😂


 
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To echo some of the previous comments being able to start a ride from home is a major factor in why I live where I do. It’s not the most impressive spot in the country, or the biggest but  in 5-10 minutes (depending on direction) I’m off road and into trees. 

Driving to ride isn’t a problem but is reserved for bigger days out and longer trips with local riding friends. 


 
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I need to drive 30-45 minutes to get to somewhere I would "need" a mountain bike. I can bang out road or gravel loops from home. Half a mile north or south to a bridleway out the village, and on a gravel bike I can then get into central Nottingham or Derby without going on a road.

When kids were younger and i was pushed for time I simply got out the habit of mountain biking as I couldn’t see the point wasting time driving - still got my 26" Soul as I've not needed anything else.

Keep thinking I'll travel a bit to try and get back into MTB. Keep making local plans with mates instead. The fact that its "better for the environment" is a minor side issue.


 
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I've not driven anywhere to ride since 2018 when I went to the Lake District for a birthday ride. Petrol is expensive and driving kills the planet.


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 4:15 pm
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That’s just how it is really ... local riding is great and fine… but sometimes/often it’s not what’s needed.

It's not like that everywhere.  There are plenty of houses in great riding areas, that you can probably afford as well.  The big problem will be wether or not you want to live there or can find work.

I live in a decent city with loads of great MTBing nearby (the road is less good but still not the worst), and I'm quite lucky to be able to do my job here.


 
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i can ride from my door but the hill is slated for housing development.

if i take a 10 minute drive up the mountain i prefer the riding and i’m less likely to get poo on my bike or bump into hikers or runners. not that this is a problem, i just prefer the solitude. if i had an ebike, i could ride these from home, but in my state of fitness it isn’t practical or even vaguely appealing to ride. that said, i don’t think it would be much fun on an ebike,

Do you have riding a stones throw away, that is just too far/inaccessible for a half day/days riding that you refuse to drive to?

the “problem” with having such enjoyable trails on my doorstep is that i never drive to the trails a further away, which aren’t actually  that far!


 
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I moved for a job (as an academic) first and foremost - when I was still single - and the decision was based entirely around that. When you’re on a fixed term contract in a skilled profession you can only apply for what’s on offer and not be too picky about geographical location. Whether there was riding from the door was not a primary factor. I recognise that I’m lucky though, that I can ride from my door in many directions on old railway paths (around Durham) and link up with bits of byway and bridleway - not at all technical, but varied enough to keep it interesting and always somewhere with a view and a chance to clear the mind. Riding is determined by family commitments - rides from home when I have a couple of hours on my own, trips to Hamsterley or into the Pennines or dales with my son when we have a bit more time.


 
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I'll drive but the ratio of driving to riding has to be right. At very least the total riding time has to be the same as the travel time (travel time includes faffing and packing the car before/after), and I see that as a bare minimum. I'm not doing a 4 hour round trip for 2 hours riding, that's a terrible use of my time.


 
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I hate the idea of having to drive a car somewhere to ride a bike. I’ve got plenty of decent routes from my door but this was a big factor in deciding where we moved to.

I guess I’m quite lucky in that I enjoy just being out on my bike, I don’t need to be always riding techy/fun single track (all though that would be my preference) to get pleasure from riding.


 
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I feel like this thread is going to separate the STW Richlist from the normals. It must be incredible to be able to choose where you live. I, like most people have to live in the only place I can afford and cling onto it.

Hardly! A 4 bedroom detached house with a decent bit of land, in the Forest of Dean was 40% of the value of something similar in the part of Hampshire we used to live.


 
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I feel like this thread is going to separate the STW Richlist from the normals. It must be incredible to be able to choose where you live. I, like most people have to live in the only place I can afford and cling onto it.

I ended up near Matlock by chance, just happens that the riding is ok from the door and better still a little further away. Where I live in Darley Dale is definitely not posh, or expensive.

Apologies this thread turned out similar to one I posted the other week about 'would you live where the riding was rubbish?' That wasn't the intention, but some good answers regardless.

Seems there aren't that many on here who wouldn't drive to ride, which surprised me a bit tbh


 
Posted : 03/01/2024 5:20 pm
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This weekend is FoD on Friday and Dyfi on Sat, possibly Surrey Hills on Sunday….

@weeksy that’s an action packed weekend. i’m wondering, will you be with your son? would you travel as much to ride if he wasn’t into bikes? (probably not, suspect you’d be talking him to other activities)

how do the logistics work on these kinds of weekends? to you stay away from home and drive from one spot to the next?

I feel like this thread is going to separate the STW Richlist from the normals.

im very fortunate, mainly because my wife is so capable and motivated and because my dad took the risk from one of the poorest places in the country to where i was born.

my wife and i then lived in some places so unappealing that companies based there struggle to fill positions. then we saved as much as we could and moved somewhere “nicer”. that said, we enjoyed the unappealing places, too.

obviously, that is all privileged stuff as having opportunities is a privilege in itself. it helped not having children till later in life, but that means i’m mid-50’s with a 7 year old boy, so like most people we won’t be retiring anytime soon.


 
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If I’m riding solo I’ll tend to ride from the door. However most of what I would ride isn’t really doable at the moment, without the bike grinding to a halt. I avoid the road where possible these days, too many close calls.

I can get to Swinley in an hour or so by bike as the byways etc are usually better heading that way. A little bit of a slog in winter though being 12 miles each way, but mostly off road. Honestly not that rewarding, but good for fitness.

If work goes to plan I take a bike with me and have ridden most of the trail centres in the UK that way, torture for some I know. Ideal for those of us without local knowledge or time to explore.
I try and book work accommodation near trails, managed Afan Lodge a few times last summer. A great way of staying out of the bar when working away.

Actually there in a couple of weeks, will try and convince my colleague a night ride is a good idea.

If it’s a group ride I’ll almost always drive as it’s usually not practical to get there by bike.


 
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I live in Macclesfield near the forest so have easy access to some half decent natural trails. Marple, Roman Lakes and other areas are a relatively short pootle away. I used to travel to ride when younger but avoid it now due to time constraints and cutting down o unnecessary car journeys.


 
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I used to live in Nottingham. After a break-in where I suspect either I'd been followed or seen loading bikes into the house, I stopped riding from the door to Hemlock Stone and spent time driving to North Nottingham or Ambergate and the Peaks for riding.

Moved to Macclesfield at the beginning of last year, and riding from the door was part of the appeal. Which was great when the weather was good, but over the past couple of months, finding the motiviation has been a bit more tricky, and I've found myself back to riding familiar terrain in Ambergate with the associated drive to get there. Partly for people to ride with, but also partly because it doesn't seem worth driving up to the Forest for riding when it's a 15-20 minute pedal away. As a blow-in to the area, I've found it pretty tricky to find people to ride with, mainly as most people are on ebikes, and those I've met generally are a lot more comfortable on slick nadgery natural riding than I am!

Macclesfield is great for riding from the door, but I think there's a bit more that goes into riding than just how easy it is to access from the house.


 
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I'll drive to ride (MTB) even though I live close by some great trails. However, I'm super-efficient at doing so (bike rack permanently on the tow bar, seat covers in the car so dirt isn't a problem and I'm not precious about the interior, hose readily available at home, secure storage locker) so the ratio of total time used (including faffing) to riding time is pretty good. I'm also flexible enough with time that I can choose different trail systems if traffic is bad in a particular direction.

Mostly I'll drive as my dog comes with me and there's no way he could run alongside me on the road but also because I'd be completely knackered just getting to the trails.  They generally involve 300m or so of climbing on roads just to get to the start of the trails (which then involve several hundred more meters of solid, steep climbing). I'm just not young enough/fit enough to do that all the time (I do ride to trails some times when we've got more daylight)

In my defence, I probably ride my gravel bike or my road bike more often than I mountain bike these days (like probably 50% gravel bike/40% road bike/10% mountain bike), and those rides are (mostly) done from home.


 
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I feel like this thread is going to separate the STW Richlist from the normals. It must be incredible to be able to choose where you live. I, like most people have to live in the only place I can afford and cling onto it.

I don't think it is, Like I said I was relatively "time rich" when I was younger and could travel more to ride, but I don't live in an MTB Mecca now (Reading) so it's mostly gravel and road bikes around Berkshire/Hampshire/Oxfordshire.
These days I lack the time (and surplus income) to sit in a car for hours just so I can get to nicer terrain, time is more of a scare resource. I've never lived anywhere that it's impossible to find (or build) something to ride locally, I find it hard to believe anyone lives in such an urban wasteland that riding from the door is 'impossible'...

I think this thread is just highlighting a poverty of imagination and/or a bit of snobbery about the types of riding people are willing to do or not. 90% of my riding is from my door by necessity not choice.

Some of you have already said you'd turn your nose up at anything that's not 'high quality MTB trails' and I'd maybe have thought like that when I was younger, but I see that as quite a sad mindset now.
I'll accept that most of my riding these days isn't the pinnacle of bike riding, on relatively 'mundane' terrain, but I can't imagine just ditching all bikes because I can't access sexy trails every weekend, that's a bit monocultural isn't it? I've had some pretty great experiences on gravel and road bikes as well as MTBs. I think there's maybe too much bike media/SM/YouTubers sending messages about what constitutes 'valid' cycling experiences.


 
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@whydot I grew up in Macc (started mtbing there) and there is loads to go at outside the forest up in the hills, if big moorland xc/trail stuff is more your bag than forest off piste.

It generally runs well in the wet, too.


 
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