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I bloody knew it! Food served on wooden boards. It just gets worse.
Not a plate in sight!!
It' gets even funking worse!
Could be worse ,they could serve ****y food on roofing slates !
convert - Member
Calm, does not necessarily mean passive though.
Indeed, the previous armchair hardman comment did impress us too 🙄
there's very little 'armchair' about me sunshine 😉the previous armchair hardman comment did impress us too
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in all seriousness it's a character trait that I should not be particularly proud of and will probably get me in trouble some day.
Mr Jason Wells is getting a right kicking on twitter & facebook, and several news websites have named him.
It's made the Daily Wail:
[url= http://www.****/news/article-3106073/Get-f-cycle-lane-c-t-Shocking-moment-driver-cyclist-furious-row-middle-road-overtaking-manoeuvre.html ]Link[/url]
Apologies for the Wail link, please feel free to repost edited.
Oh dear the comments on the fail page make for depressing reading.
I started reading them and stopped before it started to upset me. The ignorance of fail readers is beyond belief although the article seems to favour the cyclist so I'm all confused now.
[quote=convert ]1. love the way everyone (the front cyclist, the yellow Ka, the gimp and our sweary hero) all ignore the mini roundabout and carry on straight through/over it without slowing etc.
No requirement to slow down if you can see there is nothing you'll have to give way to - good visibility to the right. Of course you're not supposed to overtake when going round one, and law says you MUST pass round the central markings, so as much as I'd like to suggest they're all blameless I have to admit that some of them are doing something wrong.
2. Still trying to work out what triggered it - when the 4X4 first goes past it's not actually much closer than the Ka was when it went past
Maybe not when it starts to overtake, but it then pulls in whilst it's still alongside the cyclist. The cyclist is pretty restrained with his "oh come on" call which is barely a shout.
[quote=jekkyl ]Oh dear the comments on the fail page make for depressing reading.
I long ago learned to ignore all the idiots posting comments on online news sites, and there are some gems on there:
He is probably in a rage because he is running late for his bondage party
He is dressed like a shit midget Hasselhoff.
Well, given the publicity I doubt very much if the angry man will behave in this way again, so hopefully a result. Likely he'll be selling on his motor pretty sharpish too.
Can't believe people genuinely think it is okay to treat other people like this, whether on a bike or not. I got abuse the other day for riding on the road next to a cycle lane. I was averaging 27mph, there were kids and people walking dogs on the dual use path....driver still couldn't comprehend why I wasn't using it.
@DT78, I think that pretty much on point. I've been cut up by roadies, and when I've been commuting on my DH bike, been cut up. There's just no need to treat people in that way.
I long ago learned to ignore all the idiots posting comments on online news sites, and there are some gems on there:
You need to generalise it a little wider on the internet 😉
It is rather worrying that we are [ largely] like pseuds corner of the internet
I wonder how popular his [b]cycle cafes [/b]will be now?
http://brew-cafe.com/unchained-at-brew/
The crimes keep on coming
First the ignorance of the law/highway code followed by toddler rage
Champagne night
Then the wooden platters
And now a two-faced attempt to appeal to the fixie hipster crowd he clearly despies
What a jebend.
Gear cable tension adjustment £10
What a farking liberty.
drlex - Member
The charming fellow lives locally in the (Royal) Borough - glossy mag blurb - note the Black LR Discovery visible through the half-open door in the picture half-way down on the right.
Just posted a link to his shouty video on his article.
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I wonder how shouty he will be when he sees all this... 😆
[quote=butcher ]I wonder how shouty he will be when he sees all this...
Link to this thread on his FB page? 😈
I do like the idea of him wrecking his bike-related caff business because of this - hit him where it hurts. Facebook is taking a pasting too.
Most of the time when you get this kind of treatment the worst thing is that feeling you can do nothing to defend yourself and no way of ensuring punishment is given. It's interesting how much this thing has exploded - I suspect there's so many cyclists who're sick and tired of the harassment and abuse that now there's an outlet, everyone's in there...
Social media has its uses...
i am not sure that social media being used as the modern day equivalent of the lynch mob is necessarily a good thing and that ruining his business is the appropriate response here
@Junkyard, I wouldn't say that. May make some roadies think twice about spending their money in an establishment run by someone who clearly has an issue sharing the road with cyclist.
modern day equivalent of the lynch mob
"Lynch mob" means murder, whereas going viral on the internet is just a public shaming.
Actually, I think a bit of a public bashing on Twitter is a completely fitting and proportionate response to his behaviour.
It won't ruin his business.
@junkyard - oh the whole I tend to agree with you, but in this instance the guy really only has himself to blame, it's not like he isn't media savvy is it? and it is only showing him in his true colours no defamation or anything at all.
I doubt his business will be ruined by it JY - plenty of people commenting on the DM article who I'm sure would like to shake his hand. Hard to see that a small hit in the pocket for him would be a bad thing, though in reality it's a very 21st century middle class lynch mob in this case which is unlikely to have much real effect, but might at least make him aware that he is pissing off many of his potential customers by behaving like that.
I do acknowledge that in some cases the social media lynch mob does have more effect, and isn't necessarily a positive thing.
FWIW about the only thing I tend to use Twitter for is having a go about stuff like this, but I'm not joining in on this one.
i am not sure that social media being used as the modern day equivalent of the lynch mob is necessarily a good thing and that ruining his business is the appropriate response here
How else do we deal with incidents like this then? It went all the way to the Police and all he got was a fine for a public order offence... where was the charge for dangerous driving?
One of the reasons we/cyclists take an opportunity like this to hit out is because harassment and abuse is a daily occurrence when riding, yet there's never any Police around to support us in trying to get justice and even when the Law does get involved there's minimal action... look at all the times someone's been killed when riding and only fines/points/short sentences result.
We've got to change peoples' behaviour somehow if we want cycling to be a peaceful, safe thing to do instead of the preserve of 30 something+ males who feel confident enough to take on the risk... it people like this guy who scare women, children and everyone else off the road.
If we want cycling to become a mass participation activity then highlighting cases like this are one of the few ways open to us as a community...
this guy's a victim of nothing except his own inability to deal with his anger... and he looks like he's got enough cash to pay for a few sessions with a therapist so no excuse for not doing that either!
Maybe, maybe not JY.
However, I find it hard to feel much sympathy for this man should his business suffer because of this event........
What a farking liberty.
A tenner for 'moving components on handlebars' 😯
Truly an artisanal bike repair experience.
Interesting cross sections of views and I can see both sides of the argument.
He does deserve some community punishment and we do need some form of protection but I am not comfortable with the way the internet can do a witch hunt [ if lynching is too strong a term]
Sits on fence pondering
‘Monday night in our house is champagne night,’ he says, ‘I do the cooking; we’ll crack open a bottle of champers and the kids are in charge of the music on Sonos.
What he thinks that conveys:
I'm a cool dad, I'm a real man in the kitchen, I'm up to date with music, I've got money to spare on champagne each week.
What it actually translates as:
I dress like my kids, I'm an embarrassing dad, I have to cook and commit road rage because I have a small cock and have never satisfied a woman, I splash the cash on champagne to distract from the fact my wife is having numerous affairs with proper sized men who don't need to shout at cyclists.
He should probably kill himself.
fact my wife is having numerous affairs with proper sized men
I now have a mental image of him coming home to find his wife pulling a train on Team Astana.
That would show him 🙂
I expect most of [i]Sarf Laahndan[/i] know her intimately if this is how he conducts himself....he's a weapons grade bellend.
Junkyard - lazarusi am not sure that social media being used as the modern day equivalent of the lynch mob is necessarily a good thing and that ruining his business is the appropriate response here
I think prosecution for at the very least dangerous driving is the appropriate response, and a more significant sentence for the verbal abuse and death threat. But since that's not going to happen, no wonder people seek what justice they can
The ridiculous thing for me is that Mr Wells attempted to drive the cyclist off the road, before making repeated threats to kill. It's all recorded on camera and the evidence is pretty damning.
He gets a fine for a public order offence.
Somewhere, there is a copper who really needs a career change.
I'm pretty sure 'threats to kill' is a fairly serious offence.
i am not sure that social media being used as the modern day equivalent of the lynch mob is necessarily a good thing and that ruining his business is the appropriate response here
The changing world around us and people need to modify their behaviour to fit it....if you're going to have a publicly visible profile on twitter, Facebook etc then you need to behave accordingly...by making yourself a public figure (which is what open profiles on social media effectively do) you have to live with the scrutiny this entails.
Some people (the idiot being discussed on this thread) haven't made the shift yet, you can't have it both ways...if you want to have an anonymous private life don't plaster yourself over the internet.
#edit#.....like I said, small cock syndrome....a most unfortunate photo, his poor wife.
That's a really teeny little dinkle he's got there...either that or his heating is on the blink.
Is that the 48 day old meat he mentions on the website ?
Is that fake tan on his feet too?!....how very metropolitan.
Picture of psycho man's tiny penis that is bound to get deleted
That is brilliant.
If my lad was that tiny, I'd have anger management problems too.
This is justice at it's best, man gets angry and cyclist so pictures of his tiny cock go viral on the internet.
I love the internet sometimes.
That's a really teeny little dinkle he's got there
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On reflection, he'll probably regret posting that photo a lot more than the cyclist incident. 😕
Can that black & white pic get linked to his FB and Twitter pages too?!....his customers (and the idiots on the Mail website) need to know the real reason for his anger issues.
BIG MOTOR
BIG EGO
BIG ATTITUDE
tiny winkie
I'm staying up late to watch the Twitter and FB meltdown...someone has already posted links to the minuscule winkle pics in both.
It's all rather poetic really.
http://rate-driver.co.uk/LB10SFJ
Pity whoever ends up buying his car, hope they can afford personalised plates
Some clever cyclist decided to get local mums boycotting the cafe too
http://www.nappyvalleynet.com/mums/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=65862
He posted the pic himself, just not realised there was a reflection, almost feel sorry for him, no, no I don't, not one tiny little bit.
Can't find on Tripadvisor. Hidden?
Thanks. Although looking at the genuine reviews, he doesn't need an internet lynch mob to run his business down...
That tripadvisor page has an add photo link...
Not sure how the bank will view this...
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/914639977
To be honest the guy needs to publicly apologise, maybe riding around Richmond park on a bike with a big t shirt saying sorry and that he is getting therapy.
As for the self defence argument, I wouldn't want to be the first to try it - the jury will be full of drivers, who sadly will likely not hold the same view that it is self defence to pre-emptively lamp a driver who tried to knock you off, stopped their vehicle and came at you shouting and swearing with arms flailing. If someone knows of a similar case that went to court it would be really interesting to read
Just a question for the Facebook warriors out there. These things do have a habit of spiralling a bit, which does seem to be the case here. Should the unthinkable happen and the harassment of him lead to take his own life for instance, how will you guys feel?
It is not too much of an extreme example of how this could turn out (there are many recent examples of things like this ending in that way). Not defending him at all - in fact, had it been me it would have ended physically for one of us very quickly, but this social media backlash always makes me slightly uncomfortable.
I hope for his sake that he is able to respond in a suitably apologetic manner, so the internet rage might subside.
I also see on rate the driver site someone has banned and shamed the wrong guy, manning done poor fella that lives around the corner from me.
Even more uncomfortable with this now.
Jaysus. One of the top stories on Mail Online this morning...seems to be getting a bit disproportionate now.
I hope for his sake that he is able to respond in a suitably apologetic manner, so the internet rage might subside.
I hope he has learnt his lesson & treats other road users with respect from now on, he may just have had a very bad day but my money is on this not being an isolated episode.
most unfortunate photo, his poor wife
What pic?
@pook - not suitable for the delicate eyes of STW forumites, my post was redacted! 😯
I'll email you the pic.
I'll email you the pic.
It's surely what email was invented for. What could be more urgent than a man's need to see an image of a stranger's penis?
Not sure how the bank will view this...
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/914639977
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I know people get really excited when they get to feel like a real investigator (by googling someone's name)
But seriously, wtf has this got to do with anything ?
Trim.
Not sure how the bank will view this...http://companycheck.co.uk/director/914639977
/p>I know people get really excited when they get to feel like a real investigator (by googling someone's name)
But seriously, wtf has this got to do with anything ?
Is it cos despite all the champagne lifestyle bollox (which gives him right to run lesser people off the road), as well as having a tiny cock he's actually insolvent, which might explain the slight temper.
conversely anyone without a public profile can continue to be a **** with impunity - certainly if it's driving related.The changing world around us and people need to modify their behaviour to fit it....if you're going to have a publicly visible profile on twitter, Facebook etc then you need to behave accordingly...
Society seem to have picked up on the fact that cyclists can get a bit nowty on social media when riled (don't annoy us, you won't like us when we're angry) but highlighting the vulnerable nature of cyclists, pointing out the crapness of our judicial system when it comes to road incidents and a passive/aggressive threat of "wrong us and we'll give you a social media kicking when the courts fail to" is one thing, bullying/which hunt is another, it's a fine line to tread and when it's the general public doing it you know a sizeable minority will stray.
Pointing out the nutter in question has posted up pics of his tiny tackle whilst very funny is more towards the bullying end. it's not going to help with his anger management issues either.
Uses his phone illegally whilst driving too
Wonder where he got the inspiration for these from?
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Is it cos despite all the champagne lifestyle bollox (which gives him right to run lesser people off the road), as well as having a tiny cock he's actually insolvent, which might explain the slight temper.
Not really no.
The phrase
"I wonder how the bank will view this"
Implied that the Bank would somehow care about this incident. (They won't)
Excited Internet sleuth expects everyone to be as excited about his amazing findings as he is.
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/driver-threatens-to-kill-cyclist-in-foulmouthed-outburst-theres-a-witness-otherwise-id-break-your-fing-neck-10289939.html ]Link[/url]
The Independent have got hold of it now.
Nothing to add to the original incident, but I read this a couple of weeks ago: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NLFVN8E?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o05_ and you can't help feeling a little uncomfortable about how social media can really go into meltdown.
Not condoning aggressive and stupid action by any means, but there's something a bit unsettling about trial by internet. Book's worth a read, Ronson's a good writer.
He's a jumped up little nutter. Bit of shame won't do him any harm.
It shouldn't be acceptable to go around behaving like that.
Maybe he was having a bad day.
It would be interesting to know why he was so angry.
I think the cyclist was in the wrong place at the wrong time when the driver did a foolish thing.
Driver shouldn't have gone ape shit crazy but I'm very sure theres more to this story than we see in this video.
To ruin someones whole life, have his home address put online, his wife and kids named, his whole business put in jeopardy, is this the way society now deals with tis kind of thing?
But when a footballer attacks a guy in a bar in front of many witnesses and gets away with as he "thought he was about to be attacked" (Gerrad) that's fine and still treated as a hero by many or when another footballer (Evans) rapes a drunk girl she gets named and mocked on social media. Someone didn't get a hot meal so assaulted a fellow worker - who had to seek medical help - and over a million people sign a petition not to get him fired.
There's something wrong with the system.
But when a footballer attacks a guy in a bar in front of many witnesses and gets away with as he "thought he was about to be attacked" (Gerrad) that's fine or when another footballer (Evans) rapes a drunk girl she gets named and mocked on social media.
There's something wrong with the system.
I can't agree with you.
Gerrard didn't get away with it - he ended up charged and in front of a jury, where he was cleared in the same way as thousands of others. The difference is that through the media (social and conventional) his case was widely known about whilst most folk in the same situation would have gone unnoticed.
Same with the Evans case - yes, his victim should have never been named publicly but the power of social media has made Evans unemployable after serving his sentence in a way that would not have happened to an unknown person convicted of the same crime.
In years gone by when most folk lived small lives in a small community where everyone knew everyone the consequences of antisocial behaviour was obvious - you would get shunned by your immediate community which would have a profound effect on your life. A kind of self policing of behaviour if you will. We now live in a much bigger world where we expect a certain amount of anonymity when we do stupid things through sheer volume of numbers. I guess social media has just evened up the consequences a little.
they don't say what 'public order offence' he was done for - probably a fixed penalty ticket for s5
Should have been done for affray!
The thing that's most heartening about this story is the fact that, for once, the DM online isn't occupied with malicious anti -cycling comments. OK there are still a fair few but this seems like a slight shift to me. The formerly unimpeachable motorist can now be held to task by their peers for being utterly awful.
The judicial system in the UK occasionally delivers punitive sentences to make an example out of individuals to dissuade others from doing the same thing. If the same thing happened here, perhaps he gets the wrath of social media and loses his livelihood As a cyclist, I wouldn't mind if this happened. Not that it will. I am slightly uneasy about 'trial by social media' but It'd make up for all the other times when people get off scot-free.
The rise of social media and the ability to publicly shame someone like this is fascinating and disturbing for sure. In this instance It's hard to feel bad for the guy though, especially if there is any truth in this chaps tweets https://mobile.twitter.com/AnarchoBarista