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Looking for a cheap spare set of wheels I can have ready with ice tyres on after this morning's frosty slidiness - normal wheels are set up tubeless so not so easy to just swap tyres a couple of times a week.
To go on my Arkrose, so 700c disc wheels with thru axles - where should I be looking for any festive deals
I use Prime Race from Wiggle, not gravel but do tge job fine. Less than £200
Standard answer is Mason X Hunt. And its hard to argue against.
Mavic Allroads - £225, proper UST
https://www.cyclestore.co.uk/mavic_allroad_disc_wheelset_2019-ID_76938
Check ebay, people are always selling wheels that came with a new bike that they don't want.
I got some Niner ones brand new for 80 or 90 quid.
https://www.merlincycles.com/mavic-aksium-disc-road-wheelset-700c-133921.html for £163 seems a decent price. Not the lightest by any means (~2045g), but supposed to be a robust wheelset.
https://www.merlincycles.com/alex-cxd4-tl-ready-clincher-road-disc-wheelset-700c-109026.html for £305 drops weight to ~1536g.
I have some nice Race Face XC wheels with 142x12 and 100x15 spacing to offload cheap, if they'd fit?
Some people use a front step-down adaptor I believe, if on 100x12 axles.
Those Mavic Allroads are 1900g !! wouldn't be my choice.
Although if they're for running ice tyres, which weigh a ton, weight probably isn't a big issue....
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Standard answer is Mason X Hunt. And its hard to argue against.
Or the Mason 4Season Gravel. Either way, very good wheels and solid customer service
Although if they’re for running ice tyres, which weigh a ton, weight probably isn’t a big issue….
You are thinking about it the wrong way around. If you HAVE to run heavy tyres why consciously add extra weight with a wheelset? That is your opportunity to try to save some weight and make the whole package respectable.
Superstar have some of their wheelsets 40% off. If I hadn't got been gathering the parts to build my own I'd be buying some myself.
Those Mavic Allroads are 1900g !!
Didn't see where MoreCash stated low weight for cheap cash. But hey ho 😉
You are thinking about it the wrong way around. If you HAVE to run heavy tyres why consciously add extra weight with a wheelset? That is your opportunity to try to save some weight and make the whole package respectable.
Not really, snow tyres are very draggy, so you're just wasting money on nice wheels underneath them, plus for the handful of days you use them in the UK, its hard to justify expensive light wheels.
As above, my 38mm Gravdal tyres are much more draggy than my 4" Jumbo Jim's and the latter have a rolling resistance of ~36W per tyre iirc. They weigh ~750g each, iirc.
In comparison, 28mm GP4000S IIs lose you ~12W per tyre and weigh ~270g each.
Wheel weight would not be my priority for a set that will have ice spike tyres fitted.
DT R470, EUR 30 each from bike24. Novatec 791/2 £hundred and something from ebay. spokes from Rose, build.
£100 ish, should be be cheap(ish), light and strong! - depending on who who builds them.
Didn’t see where MoreCash stated low weight for cheap cash. But hey ho
he didn't, but hey ho.
Not really, snow tyres are very draggy, so you’re just wasting money on nice wheels underneath them, plus for the handful of days you use them in the UK, its hard to justify expensive light wheels.
I wouldn't call £300 expensive. And besides, wouldn't you stick some different tyres on and use them in the summer also?
Thanks for the ideas
Yes, I might stick a spare set of something else on for summer, but until I'm a slim racing snake, lightweight wheels may be wasted on me!
Wheel weight is the speaker cable of the bike world.....
Wheel weight is the speaker cable of the bike world…..
I don't think so, its the one place where weight will make the biggest difference.
Wheel weight is the speaker cable of the bike world…..
Nah, that was probably braided brake hoses.
Or maybe carbon wheels now.
I don’t think so, its the one place where weight will make the biggest difference.
Losing weight from the engine makes the biggest difference.
Adding weight at the rim might actually keep you more upright, which could be a bonus in icy weather.
Edit: anyway, back to the OP question:
I've got a pair of those Mavic Aksiums, they are plenty good enough. I managed to kill a hub by ripping a spoke out - Mavic warrantied them and the warranty is two years, so can't go wrong for the price really.
Define cheap...? I recently bought a DT Swiss GR 1600 SPLINE® 25 wheelset off one of the German websites for just under £400. Apart of popping the rim tape, they've been great, I would happily buy the 650B ones if I had any money.
Consider old non-boost mtb wheels, second hand market prices are good.
I bought a pair of HH 650 tech enduros that I will be trying on my Gbike when I finally get some new tyres.
The only noticeable difference in wheel weight is the rim so knowing the rim weights would be useful if that is a concern.
Be surprised if most of the wheels around £2 - 400 don't have similar rim weight and probably around 450 grams. Saving weight in the hub is like saving weight on the seatpost, i.e won't make a whole lot of difference.
DT R470, EUR 30 each from bike24. Novatec 791/2 £hundred and something from ebay. spokes from Rose, build.
£100 ish, should be be cheap(ish), light and strong! – depending on who who builds them.
+1
My SSCX has those rims and my gravel/CX has those hubs. Neither has given even the slightest cause for concern. There is I think a slightly wider version of the rim too. I find it gives a good shape upto 38c, Vittoria Terrano 40's look a bit round (compared to the same tyres on Crests) but haven't had any actual issues with them.
Be surprised if most of the wheels around £2 – 400 don’t have similar rim weight and probably around 450 grams. Saving weight in the hub is like saving weight on the seatpost, i.e won’t make a whole lot of difference.
Depends how much you can save, you've ridden a reasonably lightweight single speed then the sense of no weight at either end is perceptible. The back wheel tracks over stuff a lot better without 400g of cassette, 300g derailleur, etc.
Maybe if you are saving 700 grams in the rear hub. However in reality the differences are much smaller when comparing sets of wheels around £200.
Last week I built up a new front wheel with a hub that was 150 grams heavier (bolt of track hub versus QR road hub) but with same DR R460DB rim and guess what, I could in no way tell any difference at all.
I have bought one of these to replace a wheel;
Or a wheeleset
https://www.merlincycles.com/shimanowh-rs170-clincher-road-disc-wheelset-108792.html
Any XC MTB wheel/ rim will do the job don't limit yourself to a set with a "gravel" sticker. The Shimano GRX ones are nice though
Maybe if you are saving 700 grams in the rear hub. However in reality the differences are much smaller when comparing sets of wheels around £200.
My 'summer' road wheels only cost about £280, and are actually more than 700g lighter than some of the options mentioned in this thread!
Cheap, light, strong, pick 2 said a bloke trying to sell you expensive bike components.
The Mavic Allroads as an example were £200 for 1900 grams. Are your wheels 1200 grams? If they were and they were £280 I am sure they would be very popular....
My ‘summer’ road wheels only cost about £280, and are actually more than 700g lighter than some of the options mentioned in this thread!
Cheap, light, strong, pick 2 said a bloke trying to sell you expensive bike components.
I think Bontrager was right. In your example £280 is not cheap so you have already left yourself with just light and strong and we have to assume they are strong as you said they are light.
A cheap pair of wheels would be £100 and they definitely won't be light but could be strong.
Interested in this thread . Just got a Cube Nuroad Race with Cubes own RA .8 wheels on. I am wanting a spare set so I can have one set up with gravel tyres and one with road tyres. If I bought the suggested Shimano RS 170 @ £120 , which , if any would suit road and gravel best. Also, can you recommend a decent cheapest centrelock 160 mm rotor.
Er, the Allroads aren't road wheels. Hence the name - it doesn't mean "just roads". 🙂
The Mavic Allroads as an example were £200 for 1900 grams. Are your wheels 1200 grams? If they were and they were £280 I am sure they would be very popular….
1250g, Chinesium hubs, DT Revs, Stans Alpha.
Not the cheapest, but still a fair chunk less than even the lower tier kysrium wheels, or Hunt. Have been strong enough despite my clumsy thrashing, insanely light for a pair of clincher wheels.
I think the trade off is durability, the rims have a reputation for being paper thin. so they're left for the summer (and the turbo trainer over the winter) rather than wearing through the brake track for the sake of it.
Why didn't I think look at Evans...🤦