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Doesn't have to be MTB branded - but has to be fit for purpose. Emphasis on permanently waterproof - even after 8 hours in severe wet weather like we had last weekend and even after a few washes. Light and breathable also required.
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no such thing.
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I appreciate you like children's books - but it's not really what I was asking
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If you want 100% waterproof you'll have to look at something like those Fox clear plastic jackets. Certainly 100% waterproof.
mate, you were asking for the impossible...........i was stating the impossible.
So ... bin liner's it is then. At least they're cheap.
Local Council provides 3 colours - Pink, Green and Clear. If I paint Bianchi on a pink one - do you think anyone will notice?
Ton, last winter you were talking about getting something custom made- did you do it, and what was it like?
vinny, the jacket was a cioch.
i did get it made to measure too.
bit loose now cos i have lost a bit of timber.
it is however a very nice bit of kit.
http://www.cioch-direct.co.uk/
Army surplus 'goretex' jacket - 30 quid. Won't be massively breathable tho. It's average weight (about 500 grams).
2nd Ewan. Got a couple of these and while they are not massively breathable, they are waterproof. I took one to local sewing lady and got a couple of 'pit vents' put in and its now alot better. Only £6 so for the vents so still a cheap coat.
ton - I saw a lot of this NikWax Analogy kit by Paramo when I was up in Ambleside last weekend. Seen it... but find it hard to believe in it, especially when it'll cost 200 notes to find out. What's your experience?
mate, i a a big sweaty sod...............i wore it in a deluge yesterday with nothing on underneith it, i was dry when i got to work.
i think it works on a 'drive the moisture out with body heat' type of thing.
any coat you want to wear will have at least a couple of holes in, one for your head, one for each arm and one for your legs tro stick out.
the last three are ok, but the top one might leak.
Nikwax analogy.... thanks for the tip ton. Will do some research.
Pointless really - get used to the idea of getting wet.
Anything waterproof is going to be sweaty and comfortable, especially if you're out moving about
I gave up on the idea of waterproff trousers about 20 years ago. They don't work and they're uncomfotable. Better off trying to find something that keeps you comfy when wet - staying with the lower half a good set og bib tights. Even when it's chucking down they are warm and comfy, not damp and clammy.
How about this [url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ex-Police-2-Part-Police-Riot-Suit-Gore-Tex-Lined-Small-/280568930109?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item4153361f3d ]CLICK[/url]
Well, to keep you dry in a really heavy downpour that lasts all day long, you'd probably need a jacket with a hydrostatic head rating somewhere over 30,000mm
...it's also need to have a breathability rating similar to that (if not higher) to cope with the amount of sweat you'll produce while riding, otherwise you'll get wet from the inside out
...of course, it'll also need to have a good/strong enough DWR treatment on the outside of it to keep the rain beading, rather than soaking into the face fabric for the whole time you're out - otherwise the outer fabric will get saturated, creating another layer on the jacket, stopping your sweat from escaping, thus leaving you soaked from the inside out again
Hmm
good luck finding that! 😆
There is that "Skin is waterproof" mentality - and it works fine as long as you are constantly moving and have the option of bailing out if it get's too sh*tty. Unfortunately, there is also the cold + wind + rain + no shelter factor which could severely spoil your day with a spot of hypothermia.
No harm in being prepared.
i always liked my old buffalo for keeping mre warm when drenched.
bit too thick and warm tho.
pity nobody makes a thiner version.
i always liked my old buffalo for keeping mre warm when drenched.
bit too thick and warm tho.
pity nobody makes a thiner version.
They do: [url= http://www.buffalosystems.co.uk/Mens_Teclite_Shirt.htm ]Buffalo Teclite Shirt[/url]
Nikwax Analogy works by having a dense hydrophobic pile lining which faces outwards, so water droplets are propelled outwards to where the bristles are least dense.
BIN BAG - othjerwise an Altura Event jacket 😉
Most waterproof thing I have is a Howies Pilot jacket, its made of Ventile which expands when wet so stops moisture getting through the first layer. Its the only jacket I have which will stand up to a serious downpour for any length of time.
Downside is its not a riding jacket and is far too warm to ride in
There is that "Skin is waterproof" mentality
I don't go along with this mentality - for the reasons you give, and despite my posting about getting wet and accepting it.
Being wet and not have a windproof outer layer is a recipe for hypothermia. Being wet and warm is fine - but relies on a windproof outer to stop the wind stripping the heat from your wet clothes.
Can't be bothered reading all this but I've got a gore fusion that ticks the very waterproof, very breathables boxes, it is a winter jacket though and quite expensive. Fantastic jacket though, I feel invincible in mine.
The trailside brambles and holly help keep my cycle top breathable 🙄
People need to accept that Gore/event, and pretty much every membrane waterproof is 100% waterproof, and will be until they delaminate, or you stick a hole through it.
The first problem with any jacket is that they come with holes, one where the neck is, two for the arms, and one for the waist. These will allow water in, so you get wet
The second problem is that we are generally sweaty little primates, and there is no 100% waterproof material that can breath well enough to handle the amount of perspiration we generate after a couple of hours. So you get wet. It's not the jackets fault, it simply physics.
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Can't be bothered reading all this but I've got a gore fusion that ticks the very waterproof, very breathables boxes, it is a winter jacket though and quite expensive. Fantastic jacket though, I feel invincible in mine.
I would pay that much if it does what it says on the tin.
[i]there is also the cold + wind + rain[/i]
can't do anything about the rain bit, and like others I've given up on staying completly dry, it's just not going to happen, so control the things you can: Loss of heat, and being windproof. and TBH that's just layering. As long as you're comfy, then being wet isn't much of an issue.
[i]I would pay that much if it does what it says on the tin.[/i]
I'll soon be using it for a third winter of 20 mile each way commutes in the west of scotland, it works for me, I'm not a fat sweaty type though.
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But you know it is coming...
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ton - I saw a lot of this NikWax Analogy kit by Paramo when I was up in Ambleside last weekend. Seen it... but find it hard to believe in it, especially when it'll cost 200 notes to find out. What's your experience?
I have a Finisterre Storm Track made of the same stuff (they have now moved on to another material that's not as good) - it resists any weather as long as it's proofed regularly. Very good material.
It is however not very tear resistant - if you want ultra tough, look elsewhere.