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Bought one of These
first use I ended up with this…
so sending it back, and am on the hunt for something a little sturdier
recommendations please…
Get one of these, much better than the whips. I have a Unior one.
You need a plier type one. Various options available at various price points.
I use the decathlon one after a previous recommendation on here.
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/chain-whip-cassette-remover/_/R-p-200
@susepic the lock ring was REALLY on there, should probably check these things more often
had to resort to a slightly more ghetto approach in the end
thanks for the suggestions so far, quite like the look of the one suggested by @
will look at some of the plier type also as they look pretty good
Oooo I think I'll grab one of those casette wrenches, thanks for that. My chain whip is also crap. It appears to be fitted with a big, old 7 or 8 speed chain which doesn't fit any of my current bikes.
The Unior is a bit pricier, but I grabbed an older blue handled one via Amazon.
had to resort to a slightly more ghetto approach in the end
Impressive!
I do like the look of that Pedro's vice. My icetoolz whip has been doing it's thing for years, but going 12 speed it feels a little coarse on the cassette
I remember when I was a skint little kid, pre-internet, I used to get a piece of nylon rope, wrap it tightly around the cassette getting it really jammed into all the sprockets and then tie the end around the rim and start winding the lockring tool with a big, rusty adjustable spanner.
It used to work but I'm glad those days are over!
Old chain wrapped around cassette, wrap a rag around the rim, and then wrap the chain around the rag, rusty adjustable on the cassette tool…that was my technique pre-having some money!
I bought the cheap lifeline pliers type one from CRC, it was only a tenner at the time, the rivets attaching the short bits of chain were a bit stickie outie so I got the dremel out and ground them down a bit, not necessary but I did it anyway, it works great, my chain whip is now confined to the very bottom of the tool box.
The problem with the wrenches like Decathlon above is they don't work with 9T SRAM Eagle cassettes they are fixed to 10T, 11T, 12T.
I went with Parktool SR-12.2 it's a lot bigger and burlier than it looks in the pictures.
The best tool for the job is an impact driver. No matter how jammed on the lockring is, all you need to do is hold the cassette with your hand and its off in one second.
Second the Pedros vice pliers things. So much easier.
If you don't need 9t, the rigid Decathlon one. Just works, very affordable, very strong.
Decathlon. It's great, as long you don't have 9t. I don't, so its great!
BSC Chain whip, OK it's £60, and OK the tip is still as fragile as any other chain whip because I tested it trying to remove a gusset 1-xd singlsspeed kit that's not coming off. But to it's credit it was only slightly bent, could be bent back, and the M4 bolt also shared so to be any stronger would need to replace the nice chain with something like track chain with propper 3-piece quick links.
But it's a damn nice bit of kit to have if you're into fixies or otherwise do a lot of gear swapping.
I did send him some feedback asking if the next batch could have a spine left on the tip when machining it to give it some more stiffness.
If money is no object the Abbey tools "whip It" absolute quality and a pleasure to use like all there tools.
I have the Decathlon one mentioned above. It is very easy to use and makes a breeze of changing wheels . In the past fiddling with the chain whip put me off having two sets of wheels for a bike. Now changing cassette and wheel really is a five minute job
@somafunk Is there a massive difference between the two Vise Whips? I’ve got one of the 1st gen ones.
Thanks for all the suggestions so far, that decathlon one looks like it’ll do the job BUT, I should’ve mentioned, I’m restricted to Amazon for the moment and need one before I will have a chance to get to my local decathlon
@ratherbeintobago , I don’t know?, but the original has never failed to grip any cassette I’ve used it on so I guess it depends on how healthy is your wallet
The best tool for the job is an impact driver. No matter how jammed on the lockring is, all you need to do is hold the cassette with your hand and its off in one second.
Oh I like this, so obviously I went to Youtube to see if anyone had done it there.
- bloke here does it without even holding the cassette. (Although, yes, I don't know how tight it was).
Probably cost you 3 quid to make one and it will do just as good a job as any other above.
How did you bend it that way? That’s not the direction you apply any force. <br /><br />
the pliers style ones look nice. Mine is a home made nod I’m using and only metal handle from something or other (20 years ago so the details are vague) and a length of old chain.
The best tool for the job is an impact driver.
oh that is brilliant. Since I own an impact driver and a bloody awful chain whip.
As per the recommend what you own rules;
www.amazon.co.uk/BBB-T-RexGrip-Freewheel-Turner-BTL-122/dp/B0781WMDXX/
I do find Shimano lock rings come off easily, but recently had a major battle with a SRAM one - absolutely stuck on and needed to pull the freehub off with it, lock it in a voce, and then a bit of scaff tube on the (Park Tool) wrench to get it uoo. I was convinced something was going to snap. Even all cleaned up and greased, after reassembly the SRAM one was still pretty tight to get off as a test.
Need to remember to loosen it periodically as hadn't done so for a couple of years at a guess. There didn't appear to be any corrosion.
The Pedros ones that look like molegrips are fantastic. Just stupidly expensive. But if you ever see them in a sale, get them, you'll not regret it.