[Closed] Recent bannings?

And your/you're. And 'should of/could of'. All banning offences IMO.

and the classic .. bought ...brought... 😆

+1 singlecrack!

TJ though, love him or hate him, was as consistent as the day is long. He is/was a stubborn old bastard, and sometimes couldn't even make his own mind up as to which side of an argument he was on such was his ability to contradict himself. But never once did he lose his rag, try to bait anyone, or act out of character in order to provoke reaction from others. To me, his ban sends the message that it was easier to ban him as he was often the source of argument, than ban those who were losing their rag with him...

what i was trying to say but failed. But of course he will have written loads that I never read

Weird things forums. They are a clever way of bringing in punters with ever changing content. Then sudddenly you have a monster to manage

I guess in the end people were banned because people complained about them. I suppose Mods go with the flow as otherwise it feels like banging your head on a brick wall.

I was envolved in a weird thing with banning on DPreview. Morris a very polite and nice man was and still is the person with the most posts ever on Dpreview (74,000). He commented on pretty much every photo posted by anyone on one of the Nikon forums. He always was positive and gave out loads of advice. He also posted loads of his own photos which always got lots of praise in the threads they were in.

But it was actually against the rules to post picture unless part of a techncial discussion. So they banned him.

Well after a bit of head scratching pretty much every active member went over to a flickr forum where many years later we still are.

In the end forum owners are free to run things as they see fit.

Anyone have an e-mail address for TJ or know where he hangs out online

Twitter I would imagine.

I had some 'warnings' about being 'very argumentative'-- FFS, either you accept free speech or you don't-- by curtailing debate you kill the goose......

Its not free speech it is a forum run by someone and I think democracy will survive with or wothout it or a posters contributions.
What is this thread if no tolerance by the mods and acceptance of[some form of] free speech?

Not being one of the guardin reading right on flock and having a mind of your own is considered trolling on here.

Have you considered saying what you think rather than just insulting those you disagree with? TBH I know what you dont like and how you dont think but I have no idea what you do think.
As for having a mind of your own - would you like me to give a left wing guardian leading liberal interpretation of what I think that means?
Its not just about your views but how you express them and you express them by just attacking those you dislike rather than saying what you think.
Perhaps , and no offence trolling meant, but there is probably a more right wing website out there where you and like minded folk can have a "mind of your own".

http://singletrackmag.com/members/tandemjeremy/profile/

Better since the bans, IMO, and FWIW!

cheers I thought banning meant no profile...

People were banned (I think) for aggressive behaviour not for the ideological content of their comments.

Agreed.

I would say the bannings came about because of certain aggressive comments towards other members not because of their difference of opinions about the particular thread.

If some of the comments were said down the local pub that were said on here they would have been well worthy of a slap.

The only difference on a forum like this is that the consequence is a ban rather than a slap- Fair does imo.

I don't see why certain members now feel like they have to hold back on future posts either.

I don't see why certain members now feel like they have to hold back on future posts either

i think it is becuase the lare not always clear as to what is abuse and what is ok

Are you OK junkyard you seem a bit sexually frustrated, a lot of that going about these days. Have you considered some bevvy and massaging your crotch area!

the mods deem this ok [ i asked but got no reply as per the norm] but I doubt they would like it if I suggested it was the reason for the recent bans for example- I am not i am just making a point that it is not clear what is ok and what is not.

Junkyard - Member

i think it is because the rules are not always clear.....

How I see it is if you "cross the line"...

usually polite contributor = warning e-mail/short ban
repeat offender/big hitter = longer ban
RO/BH then follows up with tweets/e-mails/FB posts concerning stw/mods = effectively banned "for ever"

The arguments I can deal with, the misogyny and xenophobia that gets under the radar is less palatable. I guess that's part and parcel if the desired demographic is the teenager

trolling on here.

Have you considered saying what you think rather than just insulting those you disagree with? TBH I know what you dont like and how you dont think but I have no idea what you do think.
As for having a mind of your own - would you like me to give a left wing guardian leading liberal interpretation of what I think that means?
Its not just about your views but how you express them and you express them by just attacking those you dislike rather than saying what you think.
Perhaps , and no offence trolling meant, but there is probably a more right wing website out there where you and like minded folk can have a "mind of your own".

You know the sum total of sod all about me.

What bit do you disagree with?

Was reading a long winded post t'other day (via another on-line media), which was basically the mother of all spats between a banned poster who rides a bicycle made for two & another 'banned' poster who resides in our nations fair capital city...
Quite amusing it was.

That amuses me greatly! Also proves a point slightly... Cos on here, they were always first to defend each other and help each others argument out. Absence of an audience has obviously driven then to argue with each other!

Wonder what it could be about... Perhaps an "I'm more left wing than you" debate? Or perhaps they were arguing who hates Maggie more... 😉

Since the bannings of the big hitters, banning threads have become the new helmet threads!

Certainly the liveliest topics on the forum.

@ ampthill TJ is active on FB under his real name, which should be easy to find given the link posted above.

I thought big hitter and helmet threads were mutually co-dependent.

Junkyard - Member
I don't see why certain members now feel like they have to hold back on future posts either

i think it is becuase the lare not always clear as to what is abuse and what is ok

I've seen posts on here that mention member's family members - Stuff like has to be stamped out surely...

Not being a 'mod' I can only guess that it's aggressive and personal stuff against a member rather than posts that simply argues a point in an aggressive way (if that makes sense)?

I'm not banned, just been on an all weekend bender

That amuses me greatly! Also proves a point slightly... Cos on here, they were always first to defend each other and help each others argument out. Absence of an audience has obviously driven then to argue with each other!

Nah, all it proved was that the guy (not TJ) has serious issues!

TJ's sound and should never have been banned, all he's ever done is give his honest opinion (on everything) if it differs from others opinions, so what? You're not allowed an alternate opinion? pathetic!

the rules here make no sense.

100... any chance of giving it a rest now? It's boring hearing the same old record over and over.

Or ****ing off to wherever TJ & Fred now live, and carrying it on there?

🙄

Were the multipage helmet or diet debates/arguments really a problem for the forum? I've quite easily managed to avoid reading most of the threads about those sorts of subjects and I suggest those who didnt like the repetitive nature of that sort of content just to ignore it too, rather than wanting those who are being 'argumentative' banned. It would be a different story if someone is being abusive and threatening on those threads but as far as im aware that wasnt the case.

The disappointing thing is that some of members who were banned were essentially harmless - Normally if someone says that then it sounds like they are being an apologist for someone who posts racist / sexist / homophobic content but they never said anything that would fit that definition and they seemed to remain civil while debating/arguing.

STW is a victim of its own success IMO, the days of it being a small online community of like minded people are long gone, now it's big you get every opinion and every type of person coming on here and surprise surprise not everyone agrees or gets along...
TJ's ban was harsh though IMO, he was alright and for every argument he got into he also posted something helpful and interesting on other threads, and was never outright abusive or rude....

davidjones15 - Member

The arguments I can deal with, the misogyny and xenophobia that gets under the radar is less palatable. I guess that's part and parcel if the desired demographic is the teenager

Inaccurate,unsubstantiated ageism if you ask me,you'll be blaming hoodies for all society's ills next.
Where's your evidence?....as TJ would say 😉

FWIW, TJ had to block Elfinsafety from his Facebook feed because of all the trolling and general insulting he was doing (irony? much?)

[quote=khani ]STW is a victim of its own success IMO, the days of it being a small online community of like minded people are long gone,
Agreed. If you want that go start/find another forum.

Indeed, TJ's blocking of Effinchaffing on FB was hilarious.

z1ppy - Member
100... any chance of giving it a rest now? It's boring hearing the same old record over and over.

Or ****ing off to wherever TJ & Fred now live, and carrying it on there?

OOOOF 😯

You know the sum total of sod all about me.

Not sure my post suggests i do know anything about you but I was just

telling it how it is.

just like you

I think you somewhat proved this point again

Its not just about your views but how you express them and you express them by just attacking those you dislike rather than saying what you think.

Junkyard - Member
You know the sum total of sod all about me.
Not sure my post suggests i do know anything about you but I was just

telling it how it is.

just like you
I think you somewhat proved this point again

Its not just about your views but how you express them and you express them by just attacking those you dislike rather than saying what you think.

Yawn. It's ok for you to attack me and call me names though isn't it. It's a shame I can't block you on here like I and several others on MBR have because of your constant trolling and personal attacks on anyone who doesn't agree with your views.