[Closed] Recent bannings?

Someone got banned?

first rule of ban club is..............

i am trying to contact someone but can find him on here anymore.

I have e-mailed you as I dont want to get in trouble from the mods

yours

Winston Smith

Tj, Don Simon, others I can't remember!

ok cheers

Don Simon got banned?

Not seen GW much, dunno if he's banned.

gw is not banned or not banned during the cull

TSY deserves a mention here as well
I assumes DS is banned but dont know for sure

Don Simon just wanted to wind folks up and play devils advocate all the time. TJ is sadly missed, as his heart was in the right place.

GW was on just a few days ago

I miss T.J

+ 1

Those who were banned could still be on here using a different name.

no, surely not 😈

I think GW had a ban recently, as did I, can't understand what the justification is for banning TSY, he alway seemed so harmless.

TBH I can't see why any of them were banned, banning should be for spammers or dodgy traders, the rest should be a free for all. This is all about the owners shaping their "body of work" so it suits the advertisers. If it wasn't for you lot being so damn interesting I wouldn't be posting here at all.

I cannot see how it's sustainable as after a while we will all drift away for fear of posting the wrong thing, and in the end the place will die and they won't get their free lunch any more.

We will just be left with sychophants and cronies, and it will be very dull.

Has TJ been banned? That seems crazy. Some times he was right always some times he was wrong. He just seemed to have opinions, which is surely OK?

can't understand what the justification is for banning TSY

Was it connected to that iDave thread where he was aggressively defending the fraudster?

Has TJ been banned? That seems crazy. Some times he was right always some times he was wrong.

I'm not sure that he'd agree with you on the "wrong" bit.

Well P Membership pays for this site i assume and most of STW towers income.
I shall express my opinion via subscription when it is due for renewal.

That is not why TSY was banned but you are not allowed to comment on mods decisions but as that was not it I must be fine.

This is all about the owners shaping their "body of work" so it suits the advertisers.

Quite possibly, but so what if it is ?

The forum is part of a business, it's run to make money.

It's not a secret.

well others might have seen him as a fraudster but if TSY believed him so what?

sorry for starting this thread........but i may aswell have my twopenneth.
i reckon the forum is pretty shyte nowadays......most of the characters seem to have gone and it aint much fun to be honest.

TSY is abbreviation for who?

The Southern Yeti

Quite possibly, but so what if it is ?

The forum is part of a business, it's run to make money.

It's not a secret.

Becasue it isn't a forum if that's the case, which means it's no longer a place where you can say what you feel, or trust thay what you are reading is the writers expression of what they feel.

I was banned for arguing with Mark via email after he sent me a warning. Which is pretty lame, either I'm getting warned or not.

the southern yeti

Seems to be a cull of the big hitters then 😕

I believe "Social Media" may have had a hand in some bans.

You haven't seen me right?

i reckon the forum is pretty shyte nowadays......most of the characters seem to have gone and it aint much fun to be honest.

10 years

Who really gives a shit?
Oh you guys do.

Sorry for your loss

Would be useful if there was a sticky notifying us of who and why are banned!

10 years

It has been properly shit since the cull

It has been properly shit since the cull

It's wasn't that great before the bannings either. Same dull threads day in day out.

It has been properly shit since the cull

Becasue it isn't a forum if that's the case, which means it's no longer a place where you can say what you feel, or trust thay what you are reading is the writers expression of what they feel.

Well, you might not like it, but that's the way it is.

So you have a choice. Live with it. Or move on ?

Realman, thought you caught the 10 yr ban hammer, and then returned....

(long rant deleted)

This reminds me my subscription is up for renewel, must remember to cancel.

(Garr second rant deleted 😡 )

EDIT and frankly I cant work out how realman got away with his classifieds scam and others were banned.

Well, seeing as some have mentioned the premier membership thing, what happens if a premier member catches the Ban Hammer? They've paid for the privilege of being here, so no ban or money refund?

Well, if you paid for gym membership then were banned for shitting in the pool, would you expect a refund?

I imagine not, you pay for premier content on the website, which you can still access. No real premier advantages on the forum, tags aside.

agree with ton, tis now cack.

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Well, if you paid for gym membership then were banned for shitting in the pool, would you expect a refund?

Couldn't put it better myself 😆

Ta. (they never did catch me red handed RS 😀 )

its gone all bikeradar....

too true.

before future publishing ate up the cycling plus forum into bike radar it had loads of interesting characters who added value and thought into debates, now it;s sanitized shite. i imagine it's popular with 16 year olds.

it's be rubbish if stw went to same bland way.

Red handed?
Always use plenty of paper after eating beetroot.

Bring back Jeremy

Well, if you paid for gym membership then were banned

...You'd stop paying your subs. No-one pays annual gym membership upfront, so bit of a shit analogy.

Fair enough.
Haven't joined a gym or shat in any pools for ages. 😉

The forum is part of a business, it's run to make money.

Whilst this is of course true, it's my opinion (and that I suspect of many others) that there has been an element of "making example" of certain individuals in the most recent bannings, purely to act as a deterrent to others. The problem is that a forum should promote freedom of speech IMO. To ban someone for exercising their freedom to express their own opinion, whether or not you agree with it, is not cricket! And they have banned certain members that have been here for a very long time, and as a result alienated other long time members of the forum. If this has been done to attract new members, then I hope for their sake the ends justify the means, as surely there is/was/should be room for everyone to play nicely if moderated well with clearly laid out rules?

Now, if as some people have been guilty of, you spend most of your time on here baiting people, waiting for them to take the bite, then acting all coy when they get wound up, you deserve what's coming... No names mentioned, but one or two of the bans were more than justified IMO.

TJ though, love him or hate him, was as consistent as the day is long. He is/was a stubborn old bastard, and sometimes couldn't even make his own mind up as to which side of an argument he was on such was his ability to contradict himself. But never once did he lose his rag, try to bait anyone, or act out of character in order to provoke reaction from others. To me, his ban sends the message that it was easier to ban him as he was often the source of argument, than ban those who were losing their rag with him...

Forum moderation is all about consistency IMO. The moderation was until recently perhaps very relaxed, and all of a sudden it has got MUCH stricter. Now that's fine, the forum owners can do what they like, it's theirs to do with as they wish. BUT... It would surely have been more effective, and fairer in the first place, to phase the new rules and regulations in, rather than just suddenly ban people for 10 years? 😕

aa - Member

before future publishing ate up the cycling plus forum into bike radar it had loads of interesting characters who added value and thought into debates, now it;s sanitized shite.

I don't think the mods on here would appreciate Sheepsteeth much.

frankly who cares?
I miss the tags more than the "big-hitters"
The tags where useful I could see in about 5 words if a conversation was worth avoiding or not

The Premier conditions are interesting though, unlikely to affect me personally I hope, but I don't recall seeing that when I signed my direct debit all them years ago, or when I sent the email to upgrade to premier (I dont remember seeing a T shirt, a hipflask, a 2nd t shirt or a tenner either mind 😉
I could be another one voting with their bank account details, not because of the forum, just the general changes. I don't like the mag so much these days, and the attitude is generally more 'magazine and customer' rather than 'all in it together' like it used to be, I apreciate thats a commercial desision and they have to at least break even and pay wages etc but something has changed, cant put my finger on it but its not the same anymore, either round here or in print)

TJ though, love him or hate him, was as consistent as the day is long. He is/was a stubborn old bastard, and sometimes couldn't even make his own mind up as to which side of an argument he was on such was his ability to contradict himself.

I agree, As long as he was arguing with someone he was happy

But never once did he lose his rag, try to bait anyone, or act out of character in order to provoke reaction from others

Arguing constantly and always taking the position contrary to whatever is most popular could be (and obviously was) considered trolling. .

To me, his ban sends the message that it was easier to ban him as he was often the source of argument, than ban those who were losing their rag with him...

So he was the source of the arguments, which were the cause of people reacting to his arguing negatively.

Have you looked up the definition of an Internet troll ??

That post is far closer to trolling that TJ ever got

Love him or loathe he simply said what he TRULY believed

If I missed a thread I would read the first page and then the last. Normally the last page would be 2 people trading insults. I can't imagine anyones view point has been changed by someone on here.
The people in question just didn't know when to walk away.

rickmeister - Member
Realman, thought you caught the 10 yr ban hammer, and then returned....

So the reality of the situation differed from what you were led to believe?

And it is duller now.

Was reading a long winded post t'other day (via another on-line media), which was basically the mother of all spats between a banned poster who rides a bicycle made for two & another 'banned' poster who resides in our nations fair capital city...

Quite amusing it was.

Don Simon was alright, he always seemed to me to be posing intelligently thought provoking questions rather than deliberately winding people up.

Was reading a long winded post t'other day (via another on-line media), which was basically the mother of all spats between a banned poster who rides a bicycle made for two & another 'banned' poster who resides in our nations fair capital city...
Quite amusing it was.

Unstoppable force Vs immovable object?

[morbid curiosity] link? [/morbid curiosity]

EDIT and frankly I cant work out how realman got away with his classifieds scam and others were banned.

+1

Either the powers that be are in bed, out getting lashed, or this thread is allowed to continue purely out of interest.

Hopefully the latter 🙂 FWIW, I agree with a few of the posts which have asserted that the advertisers and web traffic come as a result of the melting pot of ideas; franken-bike threads, bike news, helmet and body armour debates, what (well keyworded) tyre / frame / fork threads and general musing, including all the mumsnet type threads.

Personally, I read the mag many years before I became aware of the forum. I hoped it would last - and lo! Here it is, many years down the line, brought to me by electrickery. The thread about the munros is fascinating, as are the ongoing bike-packing discussions - informative and frankly inspirational.

And it seems to me that the mag takes its lead from the forum, more often than not.

What has this to do with the recent bannings? Just that the 'disappeared' sparked debate, brought colour and conversation into the midst of the 'fore-mentioned 'what tyre' threads and generally amused and annoyed us all in equal amounts. Their standpoints invited controversy but more than that, allowed for the formation of allegiances both on and offline.

Anyway, even I'MNRATS, so goodnight.

I recall a thread about a year ago along the lines of "which forum member would you most like to go for a ride with?"
Most of the so called "big hitters" we're mentioned in this thread and I think TJ was the most popular by a long way.

Arguing is not a bad thing and I think most people don't get too offended by the banter.
I found most of these arguments entertaining and educating.
I often agreed with DS's stance on many topics and usually disagreed with most of TJ's.
I'd love to have a pint or go for a ride with both of them though.
I personally don't think either of them were trolls.
Just because you disagree with the majority doesn't make you a troll IMO, and forum discussion is pretty dull when everyone agrees all the time.

Arguing constantly and always taking the position contrary to whatever is most popular could be (and obviously was) considered trolling. .

Baaaaaaaaa

All together now: "we're all individuals".

Have you looked up the definition of an Internet troll ??

Have you ???

No-one pays annual gym membership upfront, so bit of a shit analogy.

My Wife does. I don't think she has ever shat in the pool tho.

In fairness to the mods, the forum's about all users, not just those that have been banned. Many times i've refrained from posting a different view to certain people, as I haven't wanted to become part of the "thread stalking", baiting, and attempts to re-ignite old arguments on here that i've witnessed happen in the past.

rickmeister - Member
Realman, thought you caught the 10 yr ban hammer, and then returned....

So the reality of the situation differed from what you were led to believe?

And it is duller now.

It would appear so, but I'm waiting for his reply...

Don Simon was alright, he always seemed to me to be posing intelligently thought provoking questions rather than deliberately winding people up.

I suspect that's the image he had of himself but I'm[i] amazed [/i]anyone else could possibly think that. Never saw anything but negativity and aggression from him myself.

Like with Fred, I think ST did him a favour banning him.

People will always have contrasting views, and like life they will often be coloured by their experiences/or lack of, and political viewpoint, if these are consistent, which if truthful they will be then there will always be 'friction'.

Attempting to control this dynamic for the 'business' is a self defeating objective, dullness and conformity will be the order of the day,and all the tedium that goes with that.

I had some 'warnings' about being 'very argumentative'-- FFS, either you accept free speech or you don't-- by curtailing debate you kill the goose.........

This message board is clearly way too important to some of you, [b][i][u]way[/u][/i][/b] too important.

either you accept free speech or you don't-

A few of you seem to be getting very high-minded about this. It's an internet forum not a sixth form debate. People were banned (I think) for aggressive behaviour not for the ideological content of their comments.

I think Voltaire would have changed his mind pretty sharpish if he'd had access to this forum.

Arguing constantly and always taking the position contrary to whatever is most popular could be (and obviously was) considered trolling. .

Not being one of the guardin reading right on flock and having a mind of your own is considered trolling on here.

bet that earns me yet another ban for doing sweet FA but telling it how it is.

surely Teej was banned for being immune to advertising ?

Many times i've refrained from posting a different view to certain people, as I haven't wanted to become part of the "thread stalking", baiting, and attempts to re-ignite old arguments on here that i've witnessed happen in the past.

This and this:

This message board is clearly way too important to some of you, [b]way too important.[/b]

I don't think the mods on here would appreciate Sheepsteeth much.

Mmm, whilst BikeRadar is generally rather sanitised the stuff that crops up in the CrudCatcher is worse than stuff on here! Not a bad thing IMO, good to have an outlet folk can ignore if they're of a sensitive disposition.

Bring back Friday Kylie, Athletic and Asthetic and I've also not seen an EDL thread for a while

has anyone been banned yet for bad spelling ????

bad spelling

They bloody well should be! Far more irritating than TJ ever was!

Also the proper use of there..their..they're ???