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Do people just make them up? Ive just weighed my bike out of interest as work have some proper scales and altho to me it feels light its 25.8lbs. And thats a rigid carbon with 2x10 set up. Granted its not got any lightweight stuff on at all and ive gone for deore groupset for longevity over lightness as it being light was never the goal.

But it feels light even tho it isnt so I would have said it was lighter had I not had scales. So do most other people make weights up?

Just curious


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:00 pm
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Quoted weights are hard to compare. Size small without pedals etc...

My bike weighs about 34lbs. I think its quite light.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:04 pm
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25.8lbs would come up as 25lbs in some peoples comments...

I've saved you 0.8lbs and it's cost nothing!


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:04 pm
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Ha ha your right. My very light kinesis cx flat bar 1x9 is still 22.5lbs


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:06 pm
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i guessed at my ST4 being 30ish lbs. it was 29.8 on the LBS scales.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:07 pm
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I've used bathroom scales, luggage scales and kitchen scales before now and they've all given weights within around .5lb of each other.

People are surprised at how heavy their top end bike is, dripping in thomson finishing kit and lock on grips etc etc. But yet, thomson kit isn't necessarily that llight, and lock on grips will weigh up to 100g more than some lightweight foam ones.

Savuing weight on a bike is in the detail.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:09 pm
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My Mojo HD weighs 31.4lb with a mix of light and heavy bits, if asked to guess its weight I would have guessed at ~29lb.

Heavy bits - Marz 55 rc3 ti fork, CCDB air shock, rockshox reverb
light bits - light bike carbon rims, carbon bars, 1 x 10 gears, tubeless


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:12 pm
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I would have had mine at 23 and 19 tbh. Not fussed they still feel light but I was quite surprised. My smorgasbord tyres weigh as much as the earth tho but do the job 🙂


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:15 pm
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My S-Works M5 Stumpy, with Racing Ralphs, Rebas, full XT groupset, 1800g 29er wheels, foam grips, KCNC stem and EC70 carbon bars weighs 27lbs, with pedals. Going by my Feedback scales.

If I removed the frame and forks, it would still be a lot heavier than some quoted on here.

My Stumpy FSR is 31lbs, with Revelations, triad rear shock, full SLX double groupset, no dropper post. There's a pound wasted in it's wheels, but then I'd add a pound by putting a dropper on.

I've given up trying to make bikes light! 🙂


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:24 pm
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My Ritchey P20 is about 21lbs.
I know someone who had another P20 and claimed to have it down to 16lbs, though wouldn't let anyone weigh it. It never felt 5lb lighter, though we never had the two bikes side by side. As someone else commented though, mine was the bike that always worked, never broke and was a sensible, believable weight.

Yes I'm comparing old school bikes, but it shows that there's a lot of rubbish talked about.
For reference, my P20 is XTR, king wheels 24/28H, arch supremes


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 1:30 pm
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People flat out lie about weights, on here, and on every other site.

I've weighed my own bikes on decent scales (Feedback), so I'm reasonably sure what it weighs, and have seen numerous bikes posted online with heavier builds on slighty lighter frames claiming to be three and four pounds lighter.


 
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My hardtail is 12.7Kg, had the shop weigh it (using Park scales FYI) just out of interest. If I'd had to guess beforehand I'd have said it was between 10Kg & 11Kg but I think that's because the weight distribution is evenly balanced, if front or back were significantly heavier then I think that would affect my perception.

No doubt I could get the weight down, but at what cost and would the bike really be that much better or would I be sacrificing durability, etc on the alter of weight?


 
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I use my archery scales to weigh my bikes. Accurate to within .25lb on my draw weight at 28" so I'm happy with their accuracy.

My rufty tufty BFe build comes in at pretty much dead on 29lb with its solid frame, dropper post and no lightweight bits.


 
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My Fatty is about 33 pounds when I look at the nice carbon fork and drilled rims. It's about 36 pounds when I look at the massive heavy tyres or clean the big steel frame, and about 45 pounds when I have to lift the bastard over a gate. I guess the real weight is somewhere in between.

The bike industry needs some universally comparable method of quoting weight figures, like the car industry does with MPG. It doesn't need to bear any resemblance to actual achievable real world weight


 
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My anthem weighed in at 26lbs 12oz stock on the bike shops Park Scales, it weighs less thanks to lighter wheels now, I'd wager under 26lbs as when I changed the wheels and went tubeless I weighed the bits and the difference was just over a pound


 
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Mountain bikers are the worst for estimate weight of bikes. You see it in car parks across the land, bikes being hefted, air being sucked throughout teeth and a squint into the distance "that must be about 27.8lbs!"

It's bullshit. About the most accurate anyone can tell is one bike is heavier or lighter than another.

So many of these quoted weights are either aspirations become the truth, or naive spreadsheet totals based on manufacturer stated weights that suddenly become the true weight.

I want my 29er trail bike to be about 28lbs, but in reality is 29.9lbs. If I want to get it lighter, it's serious money dropped, and/or turning it into a spastic bambi. It rides pretty well at its existing weight, so I try not to worry about it.


 
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Park scales are well known for being a bit on the lenient side. However I know that my niner is sub 20lbs and my road bike is 13.4lbs. Njee off of here had a Top Fuel that I think was around the 20lb mark and he weighs everything.

[url= http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/05/24/readers-rides-wils-di2-equipped-niner-air-9-carbon/ ]This is my Niner[/url] so that gives you an idea of what a fairly light build takes.

Some people stick a set of stans and a carbon bar on their bike and expect a sub 20lb build. For reference my other 29er is a hardtail running a rigid carbon fork and carbon wheels and is a smidge over 24lbs


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 3:42 pm
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My now broken GSpot is about 40 pounds, it feels heavy. Is heavy to pedal around and hurts my back.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 3:48 pm
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well b88er my sphincter I've just done the "old weigh myself and them myself and bike on the scales" thing apparently, it's only 37pounds!!

This is not a good result, as it means I am just a fat unfit bloke who was hoping that his new Spitfire was going to be 10pound lighter and make me ride like a Valkyrie..


 
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god knows what my bike weighs. It feels heavy when I pick it up. But IMHO it doesn't ride like a heavy bike. Let's be honest if you're an unfit giffer the lightest bike in the world isn't going to make you terrahawk.


 
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My old Meta 5 was somewhere between 32 and 34 pounds. Hard to say exactly as it was only ever weighed by the bathroom scales method.

My 29er On One Inbred setup 1*10 with XT cranks, cassette, mech, shifter; Arch EX Hope Hoops; X-Lite Carbon Fork is 12.2kg, so 26.8 lbs.

It feels reasonably light, could easily loose weight if I went for a higher quality frame.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 4:04 pm
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The only bikes that I was/am aware of the weight was an old DH bike (48+lbs, you'd be very aware of it too!) my fast road bike (16lbs 4oz according to park scales) and my newest bike (5010c with bling spec, 25lbs 10oz when it's clean).

For me it kicks me in the arse when I'm struggling on climbs, the mantra being, 'This bike weighs sod all, why are you struggling?!'


 
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24.8 Inbred here, DH Tyres & Bars, mix of Hope & Deore, Singlespeed.

That's 25lb to me!

The 18lb Tranny 2Pure did was the lightest thing I've ridden down a hill.


 
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A 21.6 - 21.8* aluminium HT. Can shave about 2lbs off that in fully rigid mode. £2077.77 without the rigid fork thrown in, but that was a mere £175 in a sale, so not much extra for a swap over part.

Haven't really hammered it on anything other than my local trails so it'll probably snap at the mere suggestion of taking it anywhere remotely tough.

*Weighed on two differing type of luggage scales. Haven't had it confirmed on something others deem reliable so probably around the 42lbs in reality...

Edit : Only the second time I've been bothered to weigh a bike but I went to a little effort so had to know.


 
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My recent Carbine 29 build.....aimed for sub 27lbs so happy
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Posted : 28/05/2014 5:18 pm
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My Camber weighs about 28lb, I weigh 190 so I can't see the difference losing a bit off the bike would make to the overall weight I have pedal about.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 5:28 pm
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My Unit weighs just over 27lb* with Rebas and 26lb* without.

The Pitch is currently a fleas bollock over 30lb*- 1x10, no dropper.

* Weights taken with cheapo luggage scale but seem realistic.

Some people do live in a dreamworld with regards to bike weights!


 
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My slackline ti weighs just over 25lbs with a frame weighing just 3.3lbs. It is running 160 fork, dropper SLX 1x10...so not bad and tough enough for all round use. Don't think the nanos help at 1lb


 
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Why do people weigh bikes as 32.5lbs instead of 32lbs7ozs or if you want to use decimal points 12.7kgs etc . One of those silly things that irritate me .


 
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Park scales are well known for being a bit on the lenient side. However I know that my niner is sub 20lbs and my road bike is 13.4lbs. Njee off of here had a Top Fuel that I think was around the 20lb mark and he weighs everything.

This is my Niner so that gives you an idea of what a fairly light build takes.

Saddle resting against the scales?

Why do people weigh bikes as 32.5lbs instead of 32lbs7ozs or if you want to use decimal points 12.7kgs etc . One of those silly things that irritate me .

They also nearly always weigh the complete bike in lbs but discuss lost weight in grams.


 
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My S-Works M5 Stumpy, with Racing Ralphs, Rebas, full XT groupset, 1800g 29er wheels, foam grips, KCNC stem and EC70 carbon bars weighs 27lbs, with pedals. Going by my Feedback scales.

Thing is... you've got a heavy frame, heavy wheels, average forks, run of the mill groupset. That's not a light build! Foam grips and a KCNC stem do not a weight weenie build make!

Njee off of here had a Top Fuel that I think was around the 20lb mark and he weighs everything.

He's right!

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Although I could've just taken the front wheel out, but that would've been really really sad.

All the weights I quote are based on my scales, may not be the most accurate, but seem about right (by which I mean pessimistic compared to most people's perception/claimed weights).

My slackline ti weighs just over 25lbs with a frame weighing just 3.3lbs. It is running 160 fork, dropper SLX 1x10...so not bad and tough enough for all round use. Don't think the nanos help at 1lb

See now that makes me raise an eyebrow!


 
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Saddle resting against the scales?

Negative - I've got another one showing it clear of the scales but they didn't use it in the article.

I thought the same njee, there's a few on here that are a bit optimistic. There's one bloke on here that swears blind his anthem is about 8lbs or something

And as for you tomhoward - I weighed that GT, it was 39lbs on the nose.....I know!


 
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I remember an optimistic Anthem, metal, triple XT groupset, 22lbs or sommat.

Thing is that I'm sure a lot of people quoting weights have genuinely weighed it at their quoted weight (does that make sense!?), it's just some innaccurate scales


 
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Ragley Ti with Flows, 2.5 Minion, 2014 Pikes, 3x9 w XTR cranks and shifters, XTR pedals etc. Measured 25.6lb. The wheels get swapped for racing band it's sub 24lb. My Maverick ML7 was a whisker under 23lb with the lightest bits i could find bar the DUC32. Blur 4x with light wheels and Revs and RRs etc came in at 26.5lb, raced half a 24 solo on it at 24/12, it was ace.

But it is all about losing tens of grammes everywhere plus going mad light on the major components. which I can't be arsed with.

All weighed on a proper digital balance thing...


 
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Whippet with Rebas, hope hubs, mix of XT and XTR , Ralphs etc is 24lbs 4 ounce or 10.48 kg.
Cannondale Jekyll 2013 with reverb bolted in, as bought. 33lbs
Dolan Hercules road bike D1 2 Ultegra, RS81 wheels 17.4 lb or 7.9kg
Wifes 14 inch Scandal singlespeed. On one wheels, exotic carbon forks, heavy mud tyres 8.8 kg or 19.4 lb
Mini TJ's kids Merida 27.6 lb or 12.5 kg, poor lad........

Using cheap luggage scales, which were 200 grms out compared to the scales at the airport a couple of weeks ago.........
All with pedals and ready to ride.


 
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I'd have my S-Works Enduro at around 32lbs, with 5.5lb Vengeance forks, dropper, Mavic EN521 rear rim, Mallet pedals at al.

It actually weighs pretty much bang on 30lbs, using luggage scales, verified as being pretty accurate by Ryanair's weigh-in.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 6:59 pm
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Never owned a fit for purpose size large MTB that weighed under 30lbs. Therefore I don't believe they exist even though they probably do.

Seems like as soon as you add some Lake District proof tyres and wheels things get quite lardy.


 
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Fixing up my bro in laws bike (trance x4) as a bit of a 'thank you' tonight with some spare bits and a few bought 2nd hand/new.

Already dropped 1.76lb changing coil fork and wheels (and the wheels are crossrides)!

Reckon it'll drop by at least another 2lb when finished...1x10 chainset upgrade, bars/stem etc


 
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Yep, large bikes weigh much more. I weigh 225lbs, I'd be frightened to get on a modern light bike.


 
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I'm sure a lot of people quoting weights have genuinely weighed it at their quoted weight (does that make sense!?), it's just some innaccurate scales

I'm more than happy to be proved wrong; it'll give me the excuse for being the last up the climbs. Bring your funky stand/scales thing along on the 29th and I can at least check it on the same thing you weighed yours, just so I know for sure.

Here's a pic I just took. Three times it came up with the same number...

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I have cheap uncalibrated fishing scales from eBay and they are pretty accurate according to multiple trips to the airport.

My large enduro evo was 35lbs which felt about right. My large Stumpjumper Carbon with lyriks, hope hoops with flow ex, slx brakes, six 1x10, and xtr cranks weighs just under 29lbs. I'm pretty happy and confident with that and the bike seems solid so far. I could drop it another couple of pounds with pikes and tubeless tyres.


 
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31lbs on a Santa Cruz Blur LTc

160 dual position Pikes, Mavic 521 rims, DTSwiss hubs, SRAM XO shifters and rear, XT front mech, spank bars, Formula r1s brakes, ice tech rotors, charge spoon, KS post, XT chainset, hope BB, Cane Creek DB coil (Ti coil), Spesh butcher control on front, Spesh purgatory grid on the rear.

Bike built to blast but last.


 
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Had a lightish Anthem, light seatpost clamp kept breaking, light tyres kept getting punctures, just wasnt up to demanding trails which dampended enjoyment when having to stop fix etc - put a meatier front tyre and thomson seatpost adding a couple of pounds and fully worth it, faster times too.


 
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2011 18" Orange Five here...according to my luggage scales 14.24kg or 31.32lb in old money.

Float 36, Rp23, Reverb, 2.5 DHF Minions Exos, Stans Arch Ex, Hope Pro 2s, Double and Bash, Hope V2 brakes, Haven carbon bar, Haven stem, HT pedals.


 
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My road bike weighs about 25 lbs. I'd say that's pretty light. Not for a road bike, but an MTB it is. Couple of water bottles, saddle bag, garmin, lights, etc, it's probably over 30...

My MTB is probably over 35 lbs. Keeps you fit, I say.


 
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57cm On One PickenFlick:

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19lbs without pedals.


 
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Bring your funky stand/scales thing along on the 29th and I can at least check it on the same thing you weighed yours, just so I know for sure.

Gladly! I doubt Kryton can resist the urge anyway!


 
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Thank god I never weighed the el mariachi rohloff I had 🙂


 
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[i]My MTB is probably over 35 lbs. Keeps you fit, I say. [/i]

Wears you out more likely 🙂

My 456Ti has put on the best part of 5lbs since I moved from the Home Counties to the Scottish Borders.

Main 'culprits' are; heavier tyres, XTR replaced by XT (breakages became unaffordable), bigger rotors, dropper and normal seat (replaced I-Beam).

But still 26.5lbs for a 20" frame c/w pedals, crud-catcher and Muckynutz.


 
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Why do people weigh bikes as 32.5lbs instead of 32lbs7ozs or if you want to use decimal points 12.7kgs etc . One of those silly things that irritate me .

Because .5 of a pound is 8oz not 7?
Cannondale Trigger 1 alloy 29. 33lb. Feels very light most the time. Biiiig though.


 
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Mine (Hemlock with new Pikes, 1x10 and a mixed bag of everything else) just weighed in at 27.3lbs on my Super Accurate £1 Ebay Scales. Will be a bit less with the new crabonz. But when I alp it in August it'll weigh as much as my car.


 
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Of the 3 current bikes
Santa Cruz Blur LTc factory spec weighed in as expected/quoted (medium)
Santa Cruz Blur LTc custom builds both came up right based on manufacturers quoted weights for parts
Santa Cruz Tallboy factory spec came up as quoted (medium)

So fairly happy with all that, if your doing a parts list weight make sure you include everything.


 
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my covert weighs in at 31.4lbs on my fishing scales. medium frame, 160mm pikes solo air, renthal bar and stem, xt 1x10, flow ex, hans dampf, reverb, nano tech pedals.


 
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Its a bit of a moving goalpost really...I tried building a 26lb FS bike (a Camber, no less) because I already had a 33lb AM bike.

The Camber was - is - ace, but the flimsy Spesh S-Works tyres tore virtually every outing and swapping from Crank Bros pedals to something fit for purpose increased the weight a tad. I now have a 28ish lb XC bike that lives up to the initial promise.


 
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Thing is... you've got a heavy frame, heavy wheels, average forks, run of the mill groupset. That's not a light build! Foam grips and a KCNC stem do not a weight weenie build make!

Totally, the frame is a bit crazy, it's heavier than the old Scandal it replaced, plus the fat PF30 bottom bracket adapter. Quite what makes it S-Works I'm not sure.

My point was more than 27 pounds isn't hugely heavy, middleweight sort of XC bits on a hardtail comes to roughly that sort of figure. I'm 6'6" and 15 stone, the last time I had a bike lighter it was rubbish, Stans 355 rims didn't work at my weight 😛


 
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My 5 used to weigh under 27, now it's about 28 or so (using fish scales, no not that kind).

The current Patriot weighs 30-31 which is fine up hills (since going tubeless), wouldn't want to go any heavier though. The one it replaced was coil sprung and had cheaper stuff, and weighed 37lbs. That was just too heavy for climbing, not helped by the 180mm non-wind-down fork.


 
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My bike when its clean is about 27 lbs 3ish, probably about 30 in its natural mucky state and probably about 40/50/60 when I've got tents and stuff attached! Actually, think I'll weigh that at the weekend before I set off, now ye mention it!

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and for the real world weights (without pedals)
The Blur LTc's go at
27.7 on the missus bike (32's, reverb and next cranks 1x10)
28.6 on mine with 34's Avalanche cart, 1x10, tubeless etc.
The tallboy is 25.65 out the box with X01


 
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My Salsa Horesthief 3 (base spec) with a Reverb is 15kg/33lbs
Definitely at the heavier end of the ....scale....

But solid, goes down hill great and doesn't break much.


 
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even this thread thread 'real world bike weights' has more than it's fair share of dodgy claims.

'weighed without pedals'

'using bathroom scales'

'i [u]reckon[/u] once i've done X, it'll be under...'

etc.

hardtail; 30+ lbs
FS; 32 lbs
road bike; 24 lbs


 
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Newbie question - how much does weight really matter anyway, except if you race competitively?

Say you have a bike that's 10kg and another that's 15kg. That would appear to be a difference of 50 percent extra weight.

But when you're trying to accelerate the bike, or ride uphill, isn't the weight actually being moved the bike's weight AND your weight. So if I'm 85kg, the combined weights would be 95kg vs 100kg, which is less than 5 percent difference.

Or doesn't it work that way? Help me understand....


 
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my yeti sb66 weighs a decent amount
my giant tcr advanced weighs not very much
my cannondale scalpel carbon 1x10 650b weighs naff all.

the scalpel build is just finished and i will posting up a build thread just as soon as i get it on the scales. i think i managed to snip about 1,300g off the standard build which is posted as sub 23lbs, so it will be interesting to see which side of 20lbs it falls on (my money is on over 20lbs)


 
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18" Stanton Slackline Ti with coil forks, flows, tubeless 2.4"/2.2" tyres, flat pedals etc - 25.1 lbs.
Difference between this and the steel frame it replaced is most noticeable in the air and when flying DH, not necessarily when climbing etc.


 
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Well I was looking at buying a used transition 120mm travel 29er with burly build a bit back and owner said its about 28lbs which seems kinda odd when my new carbon rigid weighs almost 26lbs 😉


 
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So I guess I'm the only one who adds a couple of Kilo's to the bikes weight?

If someone asks I'll say 16-17kg, its actually 14-15kg, but I don't like to look totally unfit when I'm the last uphill. 😉


 
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FTR, that claimed 21.6lbs on my 2x10 is with pedals (A600) and a Reba fork.

It feels light when you lift it by hand but remains remarkably composed at speed. I thought it might feel flighty or skippy or however a light bike is supposed to behave, but it's actually very solid. I have, as one STWr once put, learned to 'skim the gnar', the result of riding a rigid hybrid over all sorts of terrain for the last 7 years. Before that it was a 29.4lbs soggy-arsed Attack Trail - sod that!


 
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Asr 5 with f120's, Thompson ally post & stem, Thompson carbon bars 2 x 10 XT and crests on hopes - 26.5lbs

Enigma ti ht 2x 10 XT, SIDS AC wheels, carbon post, Thompson stem and raceface bars 24lbs - although spending £200 on stem, bars and qr's on xcracer would drop nearly 1/2lb off that 😯

Id like to test the former on njees scales also.... 😀


 
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I know that I trot this one out every time that bike weight is discussed, but it illustrates why we shouldn't get so hung up about it...

Back in my newbie days at Thetford, I happened upon a small group of blokes all huddled around their exotic looking bikes. One in particular stands out, he was roughly fifteen stone and perched atop a monstrously expensive fully rigid that he claimed weighed under twenty pounds. Anyway, we all set off along the old Headcracker route at thirty second intervals and it's fair to say that I caught up with the bloke on the rigid pretty quickly. My Spesh Enduro at the time weighed in at about 31lb but it was pretty obvious that the bloke in front was slowed by his choice of bike.

Anyway, we got to the end of the route and he celebrated by sparking up a fag. I often wonder how fast he'd been had be been a non-smoker on a mid range full suss bike.


 
Posted : 29/05/2014 9:15 am
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I remember an optimistic Anthem, metal, triple XT groupset, 22lbs or sommat.

Thing is that I'm sure a lot of people quoting weights have genuinely weighed it at their quoted weight (does that make sense!?), it's just some innaccurate scales

I own the optimistic Anthem and I remember you being sceptical about it 🙂
It's a bit heavier these days due to 120mm forks, but I just went out and weighed it - 23.7lbs with pedals and an original crud race guard on it. As you say, it may be the scales, but it's a little heavier than the spreadsheet of component weights says it should be, so I don't think it's far out.


 
Posted : 29/05/2014 9:19 am
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Bronson c 150mm both ends 26.62 inc pedals, HR2 tyres, XT brakes, no dropper (yet). As above its not the bike its 90% rider

Define 'real world MTB weights'? = its just the bike you ride


 
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Just dropped a kilo off mine with a hosepipe and Muc-Off. Now the fun of putting it all back on again…


 
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Other than absolute bike weight you need to look at how that weight is distributed both between components (frame, wheels, etc) and across the bike as a whole. I've two bikes that superficially are roughly the same weight, well within a kilogramme of each other - not enough to tell just by picking up, yet the bike that is "lighter" actually feels heavier as the weight distribution is skewed towards the back end.

To occamsrazor: the distribution of weight between components can have a big impact on how a bike feels to ride. A light frame with heavy wheels will ride differently to a heavy frame with light wheels. This is perhaps the most extreme example as you are trading "static" mass for "rotational" mass. Heavy wheels, especially heavy rim/tyre combinations, will accelerate more slowly than a lighter set up but will be more stable. A lot of quite expensive road bikes (even up to £2K) have pretty cheap stock wheelsets as the manufacturers put the build cost in to the frame and components knowing that most road cyclists will change the wheels as the first upgrade. So even though the bike is only a small part of the overall mass moving along the road/trail, it's the physics of how that mass reacts that gives the impression of being light/heavy, lively/dull, good/bad, whatever.

Within reason (undefined term), the absolute weight of a bike isn't that important. If you weigh two bikes using the same weighing device then all you can say is that one is lighter than the other. If one bike is a full on DH rig and the other an XC racer then there really isn't much point in comparing them but if both are XC machines and one is 5Kgs heavier then it's worth investigating where the difference comes from and does the extra weight give any advantages.


 
Posted : 29/05/2014 9:47 am
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Carbon Stumpjumper FSR - 28lbs
Carbon Stumpjumper HT - 19.5lbs (with 100mm forks, 3x9 & inner tubes, natch)

And at totally opposite ends of the scale:
Tarmac SL4 - 16lbs
Rock Combo - 33lbs

The FSR is the only one that gets ridden on any kind of regular basis.


 
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My fairly stock Orange Alpine weighed in at 15.8 kg (34.7lbs) but now I've fitted a KS i7 and stuck a single ply Minion DHF on the back instead of the (utterly terrible) Nobby Nic and gone tubeless so I guess it's a bit heavier. Switching to Dual Ply Minions F&R so it'll be heavier again.

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Cotic soul built up as light as possible without being silly is bang on 24lbs (10.9kg) with dropper. Tbh the front feels a little skittish with WC Sids and mavic 717s, waiting for a good deal on some revs or 36 floats to pop up and trying to work out if i can swap my rims for LB carbons without changing the spokes.

06 S-Works enduro is 32.2lbs with coil front and rear, plain guage spokes/DT5.1s, dropper but otherwise p light but strong kit. Plenty of room for improvemnt but this was a cost sensitive project and its really made for pointing down ^^

All weighed on park scales, i think a decent frame and sensible component choice can save alot of weight each little bit ads up real fast so if you can save 50g somewhere by spending another 5er or going S/H its definatly worth it, i mean the soul could be under 10kg if it was a carbon frame and seatpost and i didnt spend more than 2k on it. The enduro was a SH build and came in jsut over 1k and weighs alot less than some weights i see posted here v0v


 
Posted : 29/05/2014 10:12 am
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06 S-Works enduro is 32.2lbs with coil front and rear, plain guage spokes/DT5.1s, dropper but otherwise p light but strong kit. Plenty of room for improvemnt but this was a cost sensitive project and its really made for pointing down ^^

I reckon your scales are out. My 06 enduro with air forks and shock, no dropper post, and dt5.1 rims weighs in at 34.5lb. Mine is not an sworks, but that would prob account for half a pound.


 
Posted : 29/05/2014 10:16 am
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After a year or so of fiddling (with the Bike!!) and spec swapping, i've found the sweet spot for my trusty [s]Enduro[/s] Mountain Bike. It's light enough to be strong, and strong enough to be light. If i go any lighter then the durability would definitely suffer:

Zesty 714 (2013) running in "spicy" mode at 160mm both ends with CCdbair, reverb, 1x10 (XX1 cranks/32T, Placy Nukes, OneUp42T + XT cassette, XTR shadowmech) Havoc carbon bars, R1 brakes (203/180) Mavic ST + HDs in Supergravity flavour.

My scales say 13.00kg, a friends set say 13.05kg, and my LBS set says 12.95kg, so we'll call it a 13kg / 28.6lb average! I'd say that's bang on the money for a modern capable [s]Enduro[/s] Mountain Bike with that much capability.

Right now, all i'm thinking about doing is a Fork change, that will probably add a little weight but bring better composure on the rough stuff 😉


 
Posted : 29/05/2014 10:31 am
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Some back of the fag packet on line guess work suggested my Shan ( lyriks, XTR 1x10, hope x2evo, UST x-kings on 819, dropper post) should be about 26 and a bit pounds, which I thought was unlikely, in my head its nearer the 30lbs mark. But then I read maxtorques Zesty weights and I'm not so sure!

My do a proper weigh in tonight


 
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06 S-Works enduro is 32.2lbs with coil front and rear, plain guage spokes/DT5.1s, dropper but otherwise p light but strong kit. Plenty of room for improvemnt but this was a cost sensitive project and its really made for pointing down ^^
I reckon your scales are out. My 06 enduro with air forks and shock, no dropper post, and dt5.1 rims weighs in at 34.5lb. Mine is not an sworks, but that would prob account for half a pound.

Dont think so mate same scales weighed my naked soul frame @ 2.1kg which is bang on the higher side of the estimated weight v0v Does have carbon bar, butcher/purg controll tyres and ti coil and bolts though which will account for a bit...


 
Posted : 29/05/2014 11:12 am
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I reckon your scales are out. My 06 enduro with air forks and shock, no dropper post, and dt5.1 rims weighs in at 34.5lb. Mine is not an sworks, but that would prob account for half a pound.

That's the thing innit, you don't know the group set, finishing kit, tyres etc, can easily lose 2lbs there. My seatpost and saddle (obviously not a dropper) is 270g, my bar and stem is 215g. You can easily lose a pound over other setups in those bits.


 
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