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[Closed] Rapid Rise rear mech who still has them?

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 juan
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As per title really XT would be perfect but I'll settle for XTR


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:16 pm
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I've collected a few for my own personal use 🙂


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:18 pm
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I have an 06 XT long cage...


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:19 pm
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Are those the back to front nice idea but impossible to set up ones? If so, I think I have one in the garage which I took off Mrs SOM's bike after it annoyed me.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:20 pm
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XTR Di2 😉


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:21 pm
 juan
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anyone willing to make me an offer on a new model posted to cheeseland?


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:28 pm
 D0NK
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Are those the back to front nice idea but impossible to set up ones?
they are the backwards exactly the same to setup as any other mech that were one of the best ideas* ever.

Just about to switch back to regular (mine are pretty worn and I'm going 10spd) not looking forward to it.

OP pretty sure merlin and CRC had XT recently, check em out.

*iirc this was actually the original direction of mechs until campag changed it, shimano just reverted back - for a brief, happy while.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 8:00 pm
 juan
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Donk check on both wiggle and CRC and nope no rapid rise :'(


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 9:12 pm
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Rapid Rise rear mech who still has them?

Bike museums?


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 10:12 pm
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I still use one. Ace things.

Any got one they want to donate seeing as they are so despised. 😉


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 10:18 pm
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I have a Hone 9sp derailleur in the shed, hardly used, with shifter, and hub with bolt through axle to match.

If only the shifter was dual control, you'd have every bad Shimano idea in one.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 10:21 pm
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Using an MTB with a 'normal' rear mech bollocksed up waaaay too many gear changes in a recent CX race for me. I've had rapid rise on my other MTBs for so long that it takes a great deal of effort and concentration to index correctly when on a bike without one. The quick 'release' flick with the forefinger to select an easier gear just makes more sense than 'forcing' the chain up the cassette with the thumb does. Well, to me anyway. The amount of times I inadvertantly ended up in a harder gear at the bottom of a steep slope the other night was doing my bloody kipper in!!


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 10:25 pm
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I had two bikes for a while, with Rapid Rise one one and regular on the other.

Utterly head melting.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 10:32 pm
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I had an early xtr one it was a thing of genius.

My wife's bike is setup rapid rise. She rides social / family stuff and I don't think she has ridden a conventional mech.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 10:41 pm
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The quick 'release' flick with the forefinger to select an easier gear just makes more sense than 'forcing' the chain up the cassette
yep, really nice shifting under power too.
Just trying to remember how i got into RR, dunno, merlin or someone must have had them cheap or something so took a punt and soon decided wrong way shifting was spot on for me.
If only the shifter was dual control, you'd have every bad Shimano idea in one
considered this on the ride home yesterday, I was on my CX bike thinking how good the ergonomics of drop bar shimano STI/brifters are, everything just works really really well. I can see their thinking behind it DC, just seems that normal bar hand position isn't right for that sort of stuff. (I've only had a quick play with them on someone else's bike, but seen plenty of people slating them and no-one seems to like them - I've got an unused 9spd hydro XT DC brifter if anyone is interested)


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 7:30 am
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I've got a few to sell.
XTR short cage and prob an XT long cage.
will check.
Cheeseland? Devon/Somerset???


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 7:50 am
 juan
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timbur what price poste to france????


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 5:27 pm
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What price to Dunblane of he doesn't...


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 5:37 pm
 br
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[i]I had two bikes for a while, with Rapid Rise one one and regular on the other.

Utterly head melting.
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+1, and current for me...


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 6:00 pm
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I'll dig them out and see what they look like first.


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 6:02 pm
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I love mine - anything else just seems wrong


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 6:33 pm
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Just trying to remember how i got into RR, dunno, merlin or someone must have had them cheap or something so took a punt and soon decided wrong way shifting was spot on for me.

Did you have those Shimano flippy shifer/brake combo things at any time?, I think they only ran on RR mechs. Anyhow, that's how I got into them, really not looking forward to going back to conventional when I eventually move on from 9 speed.


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 7:52 pm
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I know this is not the FS forum, but I have a nearly new (used 10 times tops) M970 XTR SGS RR rear mech.
I also have a set of M960 brake/shifter levers and the brake callipers in excellent condition

If anybody is interested, let me know. email in profile


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 8:05 pm
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Hateful bloody things! I actually cheered when a big pointy rock smashed the bloody thing to pieces!


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 8:10 pm
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[quote=B.A.Nana ]Did you have those Shimano flippy shifer/brake combo things at any time?, I think they only ran on RR mechs. Nah - the STIs will run either type of mech.


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 8:11 pm
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Rapid rise were designed by intelligent engineers, for use by mechanically sympathetic people and are the informed mtb riders choice.
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High normal or top normal rear derailleurs return the chain to the smallest sprocket on the cassette when no cable tension is applied. This is the regular pattern used on most Shimano mountain, all Shimano road, and all SRAM and Campagnolo derailleurs. In this condition, spring pressure takes care of the easier change to smaller sprockets. In road racing the swiftest gear changes are required on the sprints to the finish line, hence high-normal types, which allow a quick change to a higher gear, remain the preference.

Low normal or rapid rise rear derailleurs return the chain to the largest sprocket on the cassette when no cable tension is applied. While this was once a common design for rear derailleurs, it is relatively uncommon today. In mountain biking and off-road cycling, the most critical gear changes occur on uphill sections, where riders must cope with obstacles and difficult turns while pedaling under heavy load. This derailleur type provides an advantage over high normal derailleurs because gear changes to lower gears occur in the direction of the loaded spring, making these shifts easier during high load pedaling.
So there.


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 8:41 pm
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Doesn't mean they aren't shit.


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 8:46 pm
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Nah - the STIs will run either type of mech.

I meant those mtb Dual Control things. Altho you may well be correct anyhows, just what I was told at an LBS and you can never totally trust what people tell you with possible other motives or poor knowledge themselves, hence my choice wording.


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 9:16 pm
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[quote=B.A.Nana ]

Nah - the STIs will run either type of mech.

I meant those mtb Dual Control things. Aye - that's what I meant too.


 
Posted : 06/05/2015 9:28 pm

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