[Closed] ramblers = tossers

MTBers = Tossers.

Theres a simple answer.
Were all tossers.. virus with feet.

whats wrong with going for a nice walk? If i want to wear red socks let me.

I'm definitely a tosser. And proud.

Come to think of it sometimes I'm a rambler too.....

there only jealous that you can ride a bike and they can hardly walk, knock em over next time xD

I've come to think that everyone who uses the outdoors hate eachother.
There's the ramblers with red socks & walking poles who hate the cyclists for being a menace.
The dog walkers who walk 4 abreast with extention leads and let their dogs poo everywhere that are hated by runners & cyclists.
The runners actually seem pretty unhated so far.
And then the cyclists who it seems everyone hates,
i've cycled up behind a walker very slowly, said excuse me, then thanks as i passed and still got abuse for not having a bell.

Why can't we all just get along man... 😀

baccodaddy - Member
I know that’s a sweeping statement but I’ve had enough of these sanctimonious old biddies. this morning I’m riding on private land on single-track that runs adjacent to a footpath. some saggy old sod stands in front of me hands on hips and legs akimbo and declares this is not a cycle path. my answer "well it aint a footpath either so we,d best all scarper"why do they think they own the bloody countryside i dont care where they want to drag their colostomy bags so why are they so bothered about me?as kenny everett said i,d like to round em up put them in a field and bomb the bastards!!!!!!

Anyway your statement is about a tiny minority I don't believe for one minute that it happens to you regularly. Do you also think all blacks are drug dealers and all gypsies are thieves or for that matter all muslims are terrorists or terrorist supporters? I am sure some of the latter aren't!!

2wheels1guy - Member

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i've cycled up behind a walker very slowly, said excuse me, then thanks as i passed and still got abuse for not having a bell.

Because when you do that you startle people and are in teh wrong.

get a bell - and use it - a gentle ping from 30 m away alerts them to your presence and puts you in the right

I have had cyclists do what you did and it is very unnerving.

chris_mbuk
there only jealous that you can ride a bike and they can hardly walk, knock em over next time xD

I hate runners! Only yesterday I was climbing an icy groove which I couldn't have climbed out of without falling off when I meet Mr Sanctimonious Runner running down the same groove. He had all the wide track to run on but oh no he was in this groove and stuff you cyclist. I had to grind to a spluttering halt whilst his embarassed partner ran well wide of me. What a curmudgeon!

Fog - cyclists give way to pedestrians always.

i met a nice rambler this morning and shared a joke with them, is this wrong should i be more aggressive next time

Because when you do that you startle people and are in teh wrong.

Rubbish, in what way would that be wrong?

because you don't have a bell. That puts you in the wrong. Startling people is wrong

Tossers = Tossers

A little bit of forward thinking goes a long way.

TandemJeremy - Member

2wheels1guy - Member

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i've cycled up behind a walker very slowly, said excuse me, then thanks as i passed and still got abuse for not having a bell.

Because when you do that you startle people and are in teh wrong.

get a bell - and use it - a gentle ping from 30 m away alerts them to your presence and puts you in the right

I have had cyclists do what you did and it is very unnerving.

I have never heard so much rubbish in all my life, do not even consider getting a bell. At a reasonable distance from the walker (depending on how fast you are going) you simply say loudly "coming past". A bell! never heard so much rubbish. Most cyclist have a limited amount of space on there handle bars anyway. Now I have no doubt you all are car drivers unlike me if you are driving a long a rural road you should not assume that a pedestrian has heard you coming you should give a short beep to let then know you are coming past it is very easy for them to walk into your path. Note a short beep not a long one as that is statement to get out of the way.

Because when you do that you startle people and are in teh wrong.

Rubbish, in what way would that be wrong?

People are less likely to jump if you ride up behing them and then speak, a bell from a distance gives them more opportunity to shift.

 

I have never heard so much rubbish in all my life, do not even consider getting a bell. At a reasonable distance from the walker (depending on how fast you are going) you simply say loudly "coming past". A bell! never heard so much rubbish. Most cyclist have a limited amount of space on there handle bars anyway. Now I have no doubt you all are car drivers unlike me if you are driving a long a rural road you should not assume that a pedestrian has heard you coming you should give a short beep to let then know you are coming past it is very easy for them to walk into your path. Note a short beep not a long one as that is statement to get out of the way.

I would if they where in the midlle of the road like the Rambler is with a bike, Plus my bike doesn't make as much noise as my car. 😆

 

because you don't have a bell. That puts you in the wrong.

No it doesn't! There is no requirement for a cyclist to have a bell.

TandemJeremy - Member

2wheels1guy - Member

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i've cycled up behind a walker very slowly, said excuse me, then thanks as i passed and still got abuse for not having a bell.

Because when you do that you startle people and are in teh wrong.

get a bell - and use it - a gentle ping from 30 m away alerts them to your presence and puts you in the right

I have had cyclists do what you did and it is very unnerving.

Really? I don't feel comfortable with the bell thing.
I thought it is much more respectful to talk to someone like a human and do the "excuse me/thankyou" thing than ring a bell at them like they're a dog or servant.
It would be unnerving to have a runner come up behind you and say excuse me if they were coming at speed.
When i come up behind a walker, i go even slower than them, almost track-stand and say excuse me from a good few meters away.

pypdjl

Legally perhaps - morally tho it is the right thing to do

If you speak to them when close behind you startle them

Ramblers expect a bell.

Just do it - it makes life easier.

bell all the way. Brandybollocks = unawesome

I have had several people recently thank me for ringing my bell as an audible warning of approach (familiar phrase?)

Hope Pro II's.
End of thread.

[/b]No it doesn't! There is no requirement for a cyclist to have a bell. [b]

Its recommended though under the highway code. I would say its worth it if you constantly find your self receiving hassle from walkers for startling them.

I agree it seems politer to speak to people but try using a bell - it works much better. You don't get people saying " where is your bell"

You get so much better results with a bell. I think its foolish not to have one. A polite ting ting from 30 yards away, then a " thank you" as they let you by.

It takes all the hassle away.

Legally perhaps - morally tho it is the right thing to do

Again, this is rubbish. The fact that you personally like using a bell does not constitute a moral imperative.

it comes down to this:

some people are tossers

i had os digital 2010 mapping trust me they should not have been there as much as i should not.my problem is i didnt care they were illegal so why were they so bothered about me .i didnt affect their lives ,i slowed down to let them pass so why the abuse from them?i,ll tell you why,because mtb,ing is more popular in the last ten years and these people are used to having it all to themselves.generally they are old who moan the same as they moan about how its not like it was 40 years ago.its embarrasing for the english to be honest ,throughout europe (i,m italian)we share the countryside but here the ramblers think they own it.so maybe we should let them have their own way ,shit behind trees,set there dogs on foxes and no bikes,wake up to where we are the world has moved on .

Teh fact that the ramblers expect a bell, the highway code suggests you should, the fact it takes away all the hassle - that makes it the right thing to do.

Why not use one? it really does help smooth the way as anyone who has one will tell you

Sorry - as a regular walker, I think a bell is rude and "pushy". I've had other folk say the same thing to me. A bit like the internet, it lacks inflection.

The normal form of communication between two human beings is voice, so why wouldn't you just use it?

TandemJeremy - Member
Teh fact that the ramblers expect a bell, the highway code suggests you should, the fact it takes away all the hassle - that makes it the right thing to do.

Foot paths aren't covered by the highway code, so that's completely irrelevant.

AGAIN IGNORE THIS MORONIC VIEW

Singlespeed_Shep - Member
Because when you do that you startle people and are in teh wrong.

People are less likely to jump if you ride up behing them and then speak, a bell from a distance gives them more opportunity to shift.

[b]STOP SHOUTING!!![/b]

I always say thank you if a walker stands to one side to let me past. I don't see any reason why a bell would be just as good. I think as long as it's a friendly 'ting ting' 🙂

shut up Eccles

So TJ am I in the wrong for not having a bell and shouting Ting-a-ling from a suitable distance behind them?

I NORMALLY [s]WALK[/s] RIDE WITH MY HEAD UP MY ARSE

simply because you can use a bell from much further away thus you give them more time to react.

You can only speak to them when you are a yard or two away ( unless you shout) - you can use a bell from 20 or 30 yards away. Thats the key = ping it when a distance away then smile and thank them.

I have never had anyone complain about using a bell, I have been thanked numerous times for using one, I really missed it when for a couple of weeks I did not have one.

A cyclist speaking to you from close behind startles folk

Im not listening to anyone who uses teh and da as instead of the bell or no bell.

BikePawl - Member

So TJ am I in the wrong for not having a bell and shouting Ting-a-ling from a suitable distance behind them?

I'd rather yo use a bell but the humour and the distance away you do it helps. I have seen people grump at you for not having a bell

Singlespeed_Shep - Member
I would if they where in the midlle of the road like the Rambler is with a bike, Plus my bike doesn't make as much noise as my car.

like the Rambler is with a bike,

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I have never had a problem with this. Good manners help.

My bell is on my front door.
Speaking is a more civilised form of communication.
Oh, and as a runner we seem to be hated by obnoxious neds hanging out of the windows of white Transits. Or maybe it's just me.

even though i wasnt on a footpath could someone tell where in law does it state we cant ride on footpaths anyway.the actual law states a footpath adjacent to a road and neither gives us permission to ride on footpaths but certainly does not prohibit it.so there is no law except a local council decision barring us from riding where we like.as i said ,i slowed down ,gave them right of way,whats the issue apart from their own mentality????

I rode with a bell on yesterday for the first time and I got lots of smiles and thank-you's along the way. I think I will fit them to all my bikes 😉

My little one has one on her balance bike but likes to ring it and shout ding-a-ling at the same time lol

And I've seen people grump at people using bells, I agree with Druidh a bell is impersonal, you can change the tone, volume of your voice much better than you can a bell.

Just do really loud skids when behind them. Not only will it alert them to the fact that you [b]are[/b] coming through at speed but it is also likely to excite lady ramblers and will help scrape away the peaty bits off moorland trails and expose the rocky good stuff underneath.

Thank god I live in the north of Scotland. Almost everybody seems polite and happy to give each other space.

Oh, and as druidh says, Hope Pro IIs + BB7s mean no bell needed. Audible means of warning of approach x2 🙂

epicyclo - Member
Thank god I live in [s]the north of [/s]Scotland. Almost everybody seems polite and happy to give each other space.

T.FIFY.

TandemJeremy - Member

I'd rather yo use a bell but the humour and the distance away you do it helps.

You can ring a bell in both a humorous and non-humorous way? Do you wear a big red nose for the former?

There's an awful lot of grumpy people on the trails, I've been moaned at after pinging my bell, 20 minutes later some one asked where my bell was when I asked (politely) to pass them.

Best course of action I've found, ping your bell then say thank you as you go past, if they moan after that, Santa wont come to their house.

druidh - Member
T.FIFY.

I wasn't game to comment for the south 🙂

baccodaddy - Member
even though i wasnt on a footpath could someone tell where in law does it state we cant ride on footpaths anyway.

From memory its the Highways Act

Thank god I live in the north of Scotland. Almost everybody seems polite and happy to give each other space.

I wouldn't get too carried away Druidh, I've wasted countless dazzling, charming smiles on some seriously sour-faced folk in the Pentlands, and thats me slowing to a crawl and moving to the side of the path as well.

Also, on a rare occasion we took the bikes over the five peaks we had a hill runner run past us with his spikey shoes and shout 'you shouldn't be here!' while his shoes tore the ground up beneath him. Shouting 'Why not?' back at him didn't ellicit any sort of a response 🙄

I thin those that don't use bells should try one - remember to ping it from a distance away. You will be surprised how much it smooths the way.

I know on the surface voice seems more polite but my experience is thats not what the ramblers think

...do a bit of walking, do a lot of biking and I'm Deffo one hell of a TOSSER! 😆

I just use "Cooooeeeeeyyy". Something friendly. A ping from a bell is emotionless, "excuse me" / "coming past" might impart some sense of you over them (to them).

TandemJeremy - Member
I thin those that don't use bells should try one - remember to ping it from a distance away. You will be surprised how much it smooths the way.

I know on the surface voice seems more polite but my experience is thats not what the ramblers think

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Really, well thank you for patronising me.

What druid said. Bells in my experience get a worse response.

Hmm I'm still not convinced on the bell usage (I have a bell on all bikes apart from my road bike)
Since using it I have had more abuse than previously!

Worst incident was when a friend had a walking pole shoved through his front wheel for "ringing his bell in an impudent manner" 😯 best bit of it is we always take the mick about how girly his bell sounds.

I think the thing is that some people a miserable old gits whatever, and others are just happy people.

not aimed at you bikepawl not intended to be patronising.

some people = tossers
expect to bump into them once in a while - on a bike, on foot, on the bus, on the internet...

baccodaddy - Member

my problem is i didnt care they were illegal so why were they so bothered about me .i didnt affect their lives

,i slowed down to let them pass so why the abuse from them?

these people are used to having it all to themselves.

generally they are old who moan the same as they moan about how its not like it was 40 years ago

throughout europe (i,m italian)we share the countryside but here the ramblers think they own it.

shit behind trees,

set there dogs on foxes

TandemJeremy - Member
not aimed at you bikepawl not intended to be patronising.

Posted 5 minutes ago # Report-Post

Unfortunately that's how your post comes across

you're very thorough with your responses aren't you bbj?

baccodaddy - Member
even though i wasnt on a footpath could someone tell where in law does it state we cant ride on footpaths anyway.the actual law states a footpath adjacent to a road and neither gives us permission to ride on footpaths but certainly does not prohibit it.so there is no law except a local council decision barring us from riding where we like.as i said ,i slowed down ,gave them right of way,whats the issue apart from their own mentality????

You are Moron

where does it state in the law.

Ridding where you like

anywhere you want.

Ramblers who make comments like in the OP clearly don't know their history. 🙂

It is illegal to cycle on a footpath in fact it is clearly stated on OS maps I have one in my hand now.

Really? Mine doesn't. What's the wording?

13thfloormonk - Member

Thank god I live in the north of Scotland. Almost everybody seems polite and happy to give each other space.

I wouldn't get too carried away Druidh, I've wasted countless dazzling, charming smiles on some seriously sour-faced folk in the Pentlands, and thats me slowing to a crawl and moving to the side of the path as well.

Thank god I live in the north of Scotland. Almost everybody seems polite and happy to give each other space.

Also, on a rare occasion we took the bikes over the five peaks we had a hill runner run past us with his spikey shoes and shout 'you shouldn't be here!' while his shoes tore the ground up beneath him. Shouting 'Why not?' back at him didn't ellicit any sort of a response

his shoes tore the ground up beneath him. Shouting

brandeberryj - Member

Troll of the month?

Troll indeed.

A sleeper though, established a while ago and being introduced for the Xmas season.

I wonder which of our regulars it is.... 😉

brakes - Member
you're very thorough with your responses aren't you bbj?

Spectacular thats for sure Druidh

It is illegal to cycle on a footpath in fact it is clearly stated on OS maps I have one in my hand now.

Please, please brandeberryj, stop now before you embarrass yourself any further...

Z11 - stop biting!

It's very entertaining!

HA

We saw a good deal of ramblers at Malvern today - 99% smiled and were lovely.

The one that wasn't? She stated firmly that 'you are not allowed to ride on this, THIS IS A BRIDLEWAY!'

How we chuckled 😆