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So that ENDOFTHEWORLD code takes 25% off everything (except bikes)
Is it worth buying a Codeine 27.5 with the Fox 34 for £750?
Did they put prices up 30% first?
It's never worth buying anything from those fraudsters.
dragon - MemberIt's never worth buying anything from those fraudsters.
Go on... entertain us ?
Where are you seeing it for that price?
I just had a quick look and can't find anything worth buying (as usual). I'll keep an eye in here just in case though 😉
Academic. Voucher doesn't work with the codeine/fork package
weeksy - plenty of opinions in here:
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/planet-xs-brexit-woes
Academic. Voucher doesn't work with the codeine/fork package
my mistake. does now.
Was going to buy some el guapo flat bars as they have been £10 for ages, just before the sale starts they went up to £20
Doesnt work on suspension forks. So it certainly isnt just *except bikes
The Titus Fireline frame has gone up to £999.....
Well, ordered Monday, forgot something so order went on hold, added the item and it was despatched...
Arrived here in Germany today.
Cant say fairer than that and al at good prices.
Happy bear.
As usual with this place lots of PX bashing and not one person answering the question. I'm well aware that the service is a bit shit but quite frankly for £750 for a frame and forks I'm not too fussed.
Have been looking for a reasonably trail friendly XC 29er, and quite tempted by the Maccatuskil for £450 as it works out cheaper than the equivalent Chiner frame, are they any good? Don't see too much about them.
Seems like all their prices have been increased by 25% or more, thus negating the discount code.
😆
Was going to buy some el guapo flat bars as they have been £10 for ages,
I have some I trimmed to 740mm you can have for £5+P&P
I've ordered a torque wrench, its a pity the carbon bars weren't on offer then I could have sorted Kevin out for Christmas.
As usual with this place lots of PX bashing and not one person answering the question
Sorry, If you're willing to take the risk on their QC and are happy with the price, go for it. If you get a good one it'll probably be a very good bike, they do actually make decent bikes. The Inbreds i've had were good.
But....I've made a conscious decision to not buy their stuff again after they blatantly lied to people regarding the LR seat tube issue. TBF my LR is still going strong but I wouldn't fancy testing out their warranty dept.....
My gripe with the sale is that whilst it seems a good deal loads of stuff went up in price a few weeks ago.
For example I was looking at the London Road frameset, on the Sunday it was £150. Next day it went up to £199.99. Lots of clothing went up in price too. It's these DFS style pricing tactics that have put me off them, despite owning several PX & On Ine frames, lots of their clothing etc...
By all means buy stuff from them but don't expect it to be worth anything when you come to sell it as folk just need to wait for the next pricing cycle.
Was eyeing up a PX bundle that was £49.99 last week, now its £69.99. Even with the 25% discount its now more expensive...
Had a lovely Pro-carbon from them once, one day I'll probably buy another, but for spares / componants / clothing etc their pricing is a massive PITA.
There are a few decent prices in there if you look around and the pre-discount prices don't change.;)
Mattbee, LR can still be had at £150 in "bundles" http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/ZXFRPXLOROB/planet-x-london-road-frameset-bundle
For those that the code isn't working for.. it's actually ENDOFWORLD (not ENDOFTHEWORLD)!
Still £199 on that link. I know that means £150 with the 'discount' but that's what's irritating. It was £150 with no discount, sale reduction or whatever then it went up so they could apply a 'discount' & give you the same price.
I wasn't going to wait to see if this happened so I bought 2 frames elsewhere.
And then you apply code to basket and hey presto, it's £150
But don't forget to buy your oval cross-section seatpost. 😉
If I was looking for a good value adventure frameset, I would would much rather buy a Mango Point AR https://www.mangobikes.com/shop/components/framesets/point-ar-frameset/
Those Fox 34's are now £299.
Those Fox 34's are now £299.
They were 10 days ago...
to answer northernmatt, the price has not gone up on the frame fork combo. I think its a stonking deal as the rear shock is a £500 shock.
Planet x have only reduced the frame on its own to about 600 at its lowest so to add the forks for a total 750 is great.
I'd buy it if i was in the market for a 650b enduro frame/fork
Wanted an On One SS chainring, looked yesterday - £14.99.
Email with a sale 25% off .... oooh I thought.
Guess what, the chain ring is now £20 so apply the 25% discount and .... bang ! £15.00.
So in the sale, this chainring has gone UP by 1p.
What a farce. Should be laws about this sort of shit
Should be laws about this sort of shit
There is.
I don't think they apply to jumble sales or were they just can't be bothered.
I've actually checked the Codeine frame to poo poo the £500 shock claim but found something even better. The fork is listed as
[b]FORK: Marzocchi 350 NCR TI 160mm Fork[/b] With 160mm of super plush travel, the FOX Factory Float 34 CTD
Order it now! Who knows what will actually turn up!
Should be laws about this sort of shit
There are, and I don't doubt they comply.
Why do folk get so hacked off at variable pricing? The only rule with px is never buy anything at full price because at some point soon it's going to be cheaper. So long as it's reduced to a price you're happy with then go for it and use it. So what if it's a few quid cheaper several weeks later, you've been using it and had that benefit.
Not everything had been put up pre sale, there are still parkwood 29ers for 99 less 25% etc, and that codeine package is a corker, I was tempted.
Planet x have only reduced the frame on its own to about 600
It has been 300-something at it's very lowest at the start of fubi-wotsit sale (INC shock) but it was like it for a day and I've never otherwise seen it that low.
I also don't really get all this PX business-model bashing - they serve a market segment that exists, and despite a reduction in full-time staff they still employ a lot of local people in the push bike industry, which is a Good Thing. Imagine if they keep all those extra staff on and go under due to making excessive losses - then [i]everybody[/i] gets fired and no one has a job. Does every other business that employs seasonal staff get a bashing... Every major retail outlet around xmas time and other holidays etc...
They also do some good stuff - see the 50% of profits over a sale period being donated to a local scout group etc.... they support many many riders on road and tri etc... And amazingly, they even gave really good service when I went in to pick up a few orders the other day.. I even need to retract a comment made a few days ago about their thin gloves - the 2017 ones I tried on in the shop are far better than the 2016 ones.
It's a misunderstanding, the 25% isn't a reduction in price, it's a reduction in their staff.
Question is will the 160mm fox 34 be too tall for my vitus escarpe
I don't think they apply to jumble sales
LOL!
because its not really a sale is it - its just a misleading claim to get you to look as they upped the prices before the sale to make them the same price as they were anywayWhy do folk get so hacked off at variable pricing?
It feels like they are trying to trick you into thinking its a good price or a better price than normal when it is nothing of the sort
The higher escarpe models come 150. Doubt 160 will make much difference but then I like it with 140 front
Why do folk get so hacked off at variable pricing?
Because it makes you feel you're buying something from a bunch of spivs rather than a fine, upstanding, ethical concern like PX.
As above really, what puts me off is the sale that's not a sale. I got the 25% email so went for a look and noticed the prices had been jacked up. The frame/fork package might be reasonable but the Codeine frame is now more than 25% higher than it was a few weeks back. People remember this stuff and it will screw them in the long term.
I've never been a huge Planet x fan but have picked up the odd proper bargain in the past. The current business model stops me considering them though. I guess they must be in a bit of bother as they have much less 'proper' stock than they used to e.g 1 suss fork, 0 shocks, a bunch of brakes no one wants, 0 droppers. It'll be no surprise to see them go under and no real loss to anyone except the staff.
Their knuckleball handlebars are now £80 so £60 with 25% discount. That was the RRP not so long ago and somewhat higher than the £35 to £40 they have often been discounted to.
If you want to buy from Planet-X ignore the sales, check prices regularly and buy at a low or prepare to feel a little cheated.
the Zipp rims, were £200, then £250, now £399 and £499 and they only appeared online on Thursday i think - the decent ones are long gone (Firecrests), whose going to pay £499 for a Zipp 101 Aluminium Clincher rim? 😕
Best deal I've spotted at sale price is £75 Parkwood frames.
Dont buy anything now! In a couple of weeks there will be a leak of a secret christmas staff code that offers further reductions.....just like last year and the year before
Unusual pricing aside, are they struggling for cash flow? Dropping staff and prices 2months before Xmas? It's the staff that I feel sorry for. Hope the company survives for them. Can't be nice getting a job, then worrying about it before Xmas. If you see a bargain, buy it. If only to help them.
are they struggling for cash flow? Dropping staff and prices 2months before Xmas?
I've always assumed all their mad sales are cash-flow driven - and they often do come out with a load of new frames/bikes/ranges shortly after so assume they've got a bill to pay.
Energy bars at 40p each, a bottle cage for £1 a saddle bag for £5 and road bike bar tape for £6.
I'm happy with that.
Its last accounts show an annual turnover of £18.3 million, and profit of £109,689. In 2015 the company made a loss of £86,594 on a turnover of £20 million.”
They must have been getting something very wrong unless they're asset rich or have invested in their property or something
The titanium frames seem cheaper.
I don't mind playing the game a bit. £150 LR frameset (this'll be my second, black this time). Cheap for a game of seat tube lotto 😀
Actually, I'm sure the one I bought last year (same price but silver only) was the last thing I bought from DFS.
For the OP- a good approach is to treat everything they sell like it's used. They can't be trusted on their warranties for their own products, and it may or may not work properly. But even then, that still seems like a not bad deal. I'd be checking that the description's accurate (it's definitely wrong, since it has details of a Marzocchi fork too, the question is if everything else is right...)
cp - MemberThere are, and I don't doubt they comply.
There's no chance at all that they comply tbh, they don't even pay it lip service.
Well I just checked my favorite Chamois cream. It now says "from" 4.99 which alludes to the smaller pot. well, ok then. The large one is stil 14.99 and the discount code works.
However, postage is £3.95, overall cost £15.01. I could save 1.40 with MyHermes Tbh.
I'm out.
There's no chance at all that they comply tbh, they don't even pay it lip service.
I thought the definition was that an item had to have been sold for at least 28 days per year at the higher price - which I do think they probably comply with... However, current government pricing practices is somewhat different, and probably somewhat more complicated than PX's pricing policy/methodology could cope with..
a snippet from here:-
1.2.3 As noted in para. 1.1.2, the basis of a price comparison should be reasonable
in terms of time, and what is reasonable will depend on the circumstances. But
where the basis of the comparison is not set out explicitly;
(a) A price used as a basis for comparison should have been your most recent price
available for 28 consecutive days or more;
(b) The period of time for which the new (lower) price will be available should not be
so long that the comparison becomes misleading. How long this will be will depend
on all the circumstances. But as a general guideline which could be applied to
cases in which there are no specific circumstances which might mean that a longer
period would not be misleading, it is suggested that the period of time for which the
new (lower) price will be available should not be more than that for which the old
(higher) price was available; and
(c) Comparisons should not be made with prices last offered more than six months
ago.
In some circumstances however comparisons with prices which do not accord with
these recommendations may be reasonable – for example in relation to perishable
goods or where there are a series of reductions; see paragraphs 1.2.9 and 1.2.11
below:
Example: Floater tyres were advertised before they were even in the country and had an RRP of £90 (IIRC) but were available at £60 "sale" price from day 1. In fact I doubt anyone ever paid £90 for them. Given they are an On One only product so the RRP is set by them, that's completely false advertising.cp - Member
I thought the definition was that an item had to have been sold for at least 28 days per year at the higher price - which I do think they probably comply with...
FWIW CRC are just as guilty with their own (Hotlines) brands.
Example: Floater tyres were advertised before they were even in the country and had an RRP of £90 (IIRC) but were available at £60 "sale" price from day 1. In fact I doubt anyone ever paid £90 for them. Given they are an On One only product so the RRP is set by them, that's completely false advertising.FWIW CRC are just as guilty with their own (Hotlines) brands.
As are Halfords, SCS, DFS, Ford, Mercedes, and just about everyone else...
At least they put prices on their emails so you can quickly scan against your memory bank of reasonable net prices for the one or two items that may be of interest at some point, and delete.
Unlike CRC with their latest weekly round of tat on their Black Friday emails.
2016 gopping Cube hardtail, 27% off RRP. So?
No prices? GTFO
Got stuff in basket but website won't open basket page.....
The big multiple stores are VERY careful to follow the letter of the law, I know because I used to work for them. As they have a higher profile they tend to get taken to task more often by customers so it'd be difficult to get away with it.
However "price establishment" is common. Go into any DFS or similar and they'll have some very expensive sofas around, maybe at the back of the store. No one will buy them (and if they do huge profits!) but they are put on display for 28days then reduced.
Not all the stores have to do it as it has to be a certain percentage of stores that have to stock it at the higher price. We used to get strict instructions to have x on sale from a certain date OR ELSE!
Bit more complex nowadays with the internet but it should be easy to track PX as they are essential one store.
They should keep records of what each item has been priced at for historically so they can prove they are complying.
Smaller stores or one man bands tend to get away with dodgy pricing as they just aren't in the spotlight as much.
If anyone genuinely thinks that PX aren't following the rules then report them to trading standards, we used to get them in our store occasionally to audit our pricing and they are very thorough.
Just about every retaill outlet plays this game. I own 2 O-o bikes. A fatty trail and built up a red 456 frame years ago. No complaints with either. If I had to bleat , it would be about the price of postage. If you aren't happy with the price/customer service etc - go elsewhere. Simples. 🙂
It's a bit of a sweeping statement to say every retail outlet plays the game. And certainly virtually no one else in the bike game fiddles with their pricing and tries to con the consumer as much. Del Boy would be proud of Planet-X pricing strategy.
Thought about a spare pair of tubs but I'd only save a fiver total since they're now £15 more expensive each.
Bear in mind that the endofworld discount is just that. It's a discount not a sale. So they're not offering specific items cheaper than before, they're saying 'Buy some stuff and we'll knock 25% off'
That may or may not be different to saying 'This item is cheaper than before'.
As has been said though - 27.5 and 29 Parkwood frames at £99 and Fatty Trail at £119 before discount so not all bad. You have to search for them though as they don't pull up in the frame drop down.
I have had some great stuff from on one over the years - all cheap as chips. You just need to have your wits about you and decide when you are happy with a price (as they always seem to go up again).
No, others don't play a game
Partly because it's about integrity and trust in their brand. Not withstanding it's illegal.
Is it illegal though? The doc I linked to was 'guidelines' with vague definitions of how long things should be discounted/full price for.
If you don't like their practice and begrudge them for that then clearly you're not their target market, but evidently plenty of people are happy to use them.
Got stuff in basket but website won't open basket page.....
I had that problem with Firefox.
Fixed it by not buying anything.
mine took a while to go into the checkout too. Both on Firefox and IE.
probably load on their server, it does get better randomly through the day.
Where's sq4327834278234 when we need them?
They'd straighten us out on the p-x pricing policy v the law in no time.
This made me laugh, it's from the latest PX mailshot.
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Says it all really 🙄
^ 😆
Yep that's a good one. Some of there stuff is silly cheap right enough, but as someone said above best treated as a second hand purchase and if it still seems good then go for it.
sq4327834278234
Waking up probably
I'm doing Saturday morning , dad/daughter stuff. Bacon sarnies, couple of episodes of adventure time...
My preference is to buy from a retailer who holds their price, but when you are writing million dollar cheques to suppliers every month cash flow is king. So pricing becomes a game.
We are correcting long term pricing on most products now, re dollar FX, so frames are as cheap as they're likely to be outside of a ltd availability end of line sale.
There's loads of really inexpensive stuff online now, we've just cleared out Fishers end of line and rockshox spares and there's more to come. If you're making a big purchase, use an online price tracker and see where its been for the last 6 months.
There's nothing i particularly need but if these guys had what i wanted at a reasonable price then i'd buy from them.
I understand the quality/wrong item sent gripes but the pricing??? Do people always want the cheapest price? I would rather pay a few £s over to keep it local (UK) or get the colour i want - sometimes the cheapest is some shite enduro colourwaaay. As for the folk who are watching the prices for a few weeks before buying, is there something wrong with you? Just buy it if you are happy with the price. Holding off on something (relatively inexpensive) to see if you can save a few pounds, then crying that the price has gone up is a dick move. Dicks! 😀
couple of episodes of adventure time.
Quality show that 😀
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Everyone wants everything cheap, personally i'm more than prepared to pay a little extra for 'now'
Got stuff in basket but website won't open basket page.....
I had that problem with Firefox.
Fixed it by not buying anything.
Still not loading, maybe the internet is trying to tell me something :-l
It's not that the price has gone up, its that they put the prices up to immediately do another "special offer, it's amazing be quick!" but the price is actually more than it was 24hrs previously.
Adventure Time
Is absolutely brilliant
we've just cleared out Fishers end of line and [b]rockshox spares[/b]
its such a tiny market outside of service centres though surely?
Amazon do plenty of Fisher stuff, but even at 80% off, who wants a 26" recon silver csu?
i get that selling the 5% that people want clears the cost of the remaining 95% , but I've been to the warehouses sales and there is still 26" 1" threaded forks knocking about, how long have they been there? 10-15 years?