[Closed] Pushironwill!!! Is this guy for real, avoid at all costs

I personally wouldn't trust anyone who posts only in the classifieds.

Oh teh ironing..

Indeed 🙂

Had the same problem with him over a frame a while back. Reported him to the mods on here but nothing was done about it!
Definitely one to avoid.

Wisepranker did you get your money back in the end??
I he has posted a few times with kit so thought he was legit, obviously not

Druidh don't know what you mean! I'm guessing you meant irony, and I've never failed to send anything off

Druidh don't know what you mean!

I think he's alluding to the fact the you are a classifieds only user but have crossed the border in need of a cuddle/help

Ha ok, yeah I prob don't post that much on the chat forum but felt like people should be aware of this guy to stop people losing money.

Two individuals who only come here to trade parts have a disagreement. Couldnt you both maybe just go play with the traffic or something?

I was lucky that I paid him by Paypal. He claimed it was his girlfriends Paypal account he was using but it turned out to be a friend of his who most definitely wasn't his girlfriend!
I put a Paypal claim in when I got sick of the excuses, spoke to the woman who's Paypal account it was and it all started to unfold then.
I got my money back off the woman who's Paypal account it was, she ended up having all sorts of problems with him in the end.
If you're interested, he buys and sells on eBay as intense.ern

Like I say, I reported him to the STW mods more than once as they say they'll deal with scammers but they appear to have ignored me.

Yeah he is full of bs, there should be a forum to name and shame people.

Cheers for letting us all know OP.

Ignore the miserable sods above, nothing wrong with just coming on here to buy things IMO. Some people have busy lives.

🙂

Two individuals who only come here to trade parts

Why should that make a difference? Surely a person is either honest or dishonest, no matter where they post.

I'm very well known on here. I could [i]easily[/i] rip someone off now. But I don't.

Yeah I enjoy biking I have built my last 4 bikes and buy and sell alot on here. I like reading the forums but just don't post much on here.
People should be told about this rip off merchant and there's alot of decent honest bikers on here it's just unfortunate there's a minority

[i]there should be a forum to name and shame people[/i]

There is, it's called the Classifieds Forum. If you have a bad, or indeed a good, experience on a purchase, post it up on the original FS thread. That way a history of buyer/seller behaviour builds.

If you pay by PayPal I assume if the goods dont turn up you can claim your money back ? Or is that not how it works ?

as long as you don't use paypal gift you're covered on paypal.

Yeah as long as its normal PayPal. Gift your not and also bank transfer your not. You can however log it as a fraudulent transaction which is what I'll be doing. I'm also going to contact the police, as its fraud by false rep. I have his bank details and can trace him through there, also through eBay. He's not getting away with this!!

+1 for the idea of a feedback area, Bikeradar have the same and it seems to work.

Yeah definitely something that should be considered. I will however hi jack every thread he has until he buggers off the site

or comes back with a different id 🙁

Yeah which is true but way else is there to do!!

Yeah which is true but way else is there to do!!

We need to know the email addresses used for correspeondence and PP payment too, and the guy's real name if known.

Pushironwill27@gmail.com is his email add. I paid by bank transfer so could post the name he used for that.

And his name IRL?

07591 504009

That's his number he gave me

http://www.uk-num.com/uk/005/84/00840534.html

row 41

Where roughly is he based and give authority his real name and find his address for which police cannot ignore fraud aspect.

PeterPoddy - Member
....I'm very well known on here....

Can't help thinking of Ron Burgandy 'I'm kind of a big deal!' 😉

Ron burgundy, harry burgundy = Carl remeber his surname later who is classic take the piss on buying offers then sell for silly and I mean silly profit later that day when he has got home and split bike down.
From cardiff area and is old bearded gimp

MF to the highest order.

Karma will sort him out soon enough....
Charlie j kings bikes etc etc is another one who is complete fraudster with uni dental exscuses.

Countless more of them yet mods do naff all cept count the sub cheques whilst sipping orgnaic cotton coffee in their mavic £300 socks ffs!

Pathetic stw towers, just pathetic!

Well ill get his name from the account I paid it into, or the account name not necessarily his real name.
Then call the police and get this idiot investigated.
Cheers for that number link

Countless more of them yet mods do naff all cept count the sub cheques whilst sipping orgnaic cotton coffee in their mavic £300 socks ffs!

Pathetic stw towers, just pathetic!

You trade through the classifieds at your own risk, The mods have always took that stance. As in the rules its "a car boot sale for bike bits"

You have the opportunity to buy from anywhere you what, You choose how to pay for it, and how to do business.

I can see the mods at some point just getting shot of the classifieds. Personally I'd make it premier only.

Mark et al have taken a fairly dtrong stance on 'traders' recently - if you think someone is doing this and have evidence then send it to them.

They haven't really done much.
I reported pushironwill a couple of times for being a scammer and he's still trading. Another trader I reported is still on the go as well. It seems that it was a waste of time and effort even bothering to report it.

What are they going to do though? They can't really take sides in a he-said-she-said thing, or ban people on other people's say so.

But surely there are rules governing sellers!! You can't sell someone kit and say its xtr and sending out lx then just keeping the money. Your taking someone's word for it and if its proven that they have lied numerous times like pushironwill then that user should be blocked. Yes he can come back as another username but just keep blocking him.

Or just buy from folk you trust. Like those that have a bit of posting history outside the Classifieds section

Yeah but like me I read the classifieds and sometimes post but not often. I use it to buy and sell gear. Plus it won't take long before the post a few times in the forum and then go on the classifieds, that doesn't make them legit!!
Yes I used a bank transfer and should have used normal PayPal for security but that's a mistake I've made to my expense. The whole point of this was to make people aware of usernames on here who are scammers.
Is there anyway the moderators can provide an open thread that people can add usernames to that they have been scammed by!!

Easy .

Next to the user name at the top of each post ST Towers add on 'Member' or 'Mod' etc, then underline it.

All they have to do is add ' Wan Ker' next to a scammer/thief id.

onceinalifetime - Member

Ron burgundy, harry burgundy = Carl remeber his surname later who is classic take the piss on buying offers then sell for silly and I mean silly profit later that day when he has got home and split bike down.
From cardiff area and is old bearded gimp

MF to the highest order.

Karma will sort him out soon enough....
Charlie j kings bikes etc etc is another one who is complete fraudster with uni dental exscuses.

Countless more of them yet mods do naff all cept count the sub cheques whilst sipping orgnaic cotton coffee in their mavic £300 socks ffs!

Pathetic stw towers, just pathetic!

It really is mostly down to common sense. You're dealing with a complete stranger after all.

If stw mag runs or has a forum then they could and SHOULD be resposnible for governing it 24/7 if needed!

Simple as that!
No buts.

Why? How would that solve the problem of people ripping others off?

Bye biting it in scammers ass!

Now why try to get myself to justify such a simple request for the forumites.
Next Q I can answer now for you, go ask daddy...!

If stw mag runs or has a forum then they could and SHOULD be resposnible for governing it 24/7 if needed!

Simple as that!
No buts.

Or just turn classifieds off.

Not worth their time to police a free service 24/7 when users themselves could solve the problems by using common sense like "bigyinn" said.

Regular users on here very very rarely have an issue.

It could be just as simple as everyone who buys should put feedback on the post. That way you can search for that username and see how they have traded.

Just in case the mods or Mark et al are reading this - please don't assume that everyone who uses your forum needs to have their hands held.
From my perspective it is self policing - if someone scams you, post it as a warning. And if you choose to use PayPal gift, don't whine about it if you get scammed.

Edit - not aimed at the OP btw; your post illustrates my point...

It could be just as simple as everyone who buys should put feedback on the post. That way you can search for that username and see how they have traded.

True, but while people are happy to moan hardly anybody can be bothered to do this.

I have only ever encountered one possible odd ball who sold me a set of avid ultimates berni was his username.

Refused to admit he did not pack well and that it had caused rotors to bend and that I had paid 179 pounds years ago for the oem alloy leverd ultimates wi red bore cap ones.

Completely ignorant!

Apart from that, I have only encountered positive sells and a couple of selective purchases but never feel the love to buy from folk off here as they are either assuming/expecting quite some profit or are not being truthful.

I just call them timewasters and move on to the next muppet.

Goes much like this for years now but stwtowers never really learn to accept that buying selling is the way forward.

We want a specific section for feedback and it to be regularly monitored in the correct no noncsense manner any real person would expect as standarx imho.

Or else delete and forget classfieds on the forum.

I will then be happy to donate to forum upkeep when the classifieds has been cleaned up.

Bicyle forums owners need to get some balls and let folk swear but not directed towards anyone and sort scammers out.
Not protect and dimiss and even ban as I have been banned 3 times in the last month for someone having not agreed with myself even though I was doing exqctly what forum is here for, contributing in a helpful and constructive logical manner.

So ban me again, couldn,t give a flying cheesy puff.

i can never understand some peoples view that if you dont post on the forums you shouldnt be trusted, WHAT A LOAD OF BULL SHIT, cant see what difference that will ever make, a scammer is a scammer, it doesnt take the brain of britain to just put up a few posts, how naive some people are, the best way you can police the classifieds is by self regulation, like it is on some fishing sites, also be very carefull how you pay for your goods, its always been a bit of a lottery who you deal with and trust, but you should expect that when you buy second hand if not buy new.

Before everyone loses the their toys out the prams lets just take note that the OP was nothing more than a warning to other forum users about a dodgy seller.
People always harp on about it being a community on here, it's a member simply warning other members about a wrong un.

As far as tarring people with a brush because they don't post much in the chat forums, maybe that's because they can't be bothered with the inevitable backlash of the power user. Just saying like.

I'd not want to give lots of money to a classified only user I must say. I'd be far happier if it was a name I recognised from the forums. Yes it doesn't preclude them from being a scammer, but there's a higher likelihood they won't be able to disappear - eg there's at least 10 people on here who know me personally, I'd not want to screw anyone over.

STW Towers shouldnt act as a nanny state for the classifieds. Use a big of common sense, if a deal looks too good to be true it probably is. If you want some insurance use paypal and pay the fees, trying to save a few quid, losing the safety net it provides andthen bitching about it, really you've only got yourself to blame.

At the end of the day, you're buying from a total stranger, handing over your hard earned cash in good faith the goods will arrive. Its not CRC or Wiggle

100 post minimum before being allowed on classifieds, if you want to sell like a trader and only use this forum for that then use ebay or gumtree or admag.
Also verified by other people in profile so all can check, you build up a history then so peeps feel they are ok to deal with.

Not as simple as "ban the scammers". In any transaction the scammer could be the seller (sends out crap) or the buyer (claims to have received crap, or nothing). Who's word are you supposed to take? A ban just means a new username.
Don't be so greedy, use proper pay pal and signed/insured post. If the items are too cheap to spend that much extra then make a judgment, but I doubt deliberate scammers are that interested in the odd £5.

I ordered some stuff from the Singletrack shop. It never arrived. No one answered my emails or returned phone calls.

When I bitched about it on the forum my post was pulled and I was threatened with a ban. My replies to these mails were ignored.

Don't expect STW to do anything. Be a grown up and do it yourself.

See, if I was running STW and getting grief about people being ripped off I'd close the classified forum down, end of, problem solved. If you buy kit from here off someone you don't know and/or have never met you have to accept the risk, simple as that.

Well you certainly can't hold the website responsible.

If you looking at buying something from a name you're not familiar with, you could always look for somebody else they have sold to and pursue a reference.

I think as has been said here (and this is not a stab at the OP or anyone else for that matter before we have any tears), there needs to be some personal responsibility. Pay properly via Paypal, including [b]paying [/b]the seller for recorded postage. And "paying" the seller for recorded means offering the extra £2 or whatever it is, not some stupid negotiation to try and get it for free.

If you are so tight that you don't put a price on not getting ripped off, then you only have yourself to blame for leaving yourself exposed.

As I say, it's not a stab at anyone, and it's not in any way condoning dodgy sellers, but if there are precautions you can take as a buyer and you choose not to take them to save £2-3 or whatever, you should be looking closer to home as to why things went wrong.

Its pretty simple IMO. If Stw can't be arsed to police missuse of the classifieds then they should delete the forum. I doubt it generates much click through revenue vs the grief they get for doing nowt about scammers.

If they intend to keep classifieds all users get a "buyer feedback" tab on their user profile where other users can give a simple '+' or '-' and a short comment. As wise as telling people to sift through a sellers posting history is its clearly not an effective solution as this is a recurring issue...

I'd not want to give lots of money to a classified only user I must say. I'd be far happier if it was a name I recognised from the forums. Yes it doesn't preclude them from being a scammer, but there's a higher likelihood they won't be able to disappear - eg there's at least 10 people on here who know me personally, I'd not want to screw anyone over.

I agree with this, even if a "feedback" system is set up i'm still going to do what I do now, Only buy from regulars never from the classifieds only crew.

Or make it premier only. Then sellers details are on file.

Personally I never use ebay, and from here there's only about 3 people I'd buy stuff from worth more than say a nominal £10-15 that not worth arguing about. And paypal gift seems not to be available here in Germany (or wasn't when I tried to use it before, to someone I know personally, and was paying in arrears). Must be a UK thing?

I doubt it generates much click through revenue vs the grief they get

and from here there's only about 3 people I'd buy stuff from worth more than say a nominal £10-15 that not worth arguing about.

Care to name them?

I'd buy off a lot more than 3, its not hard to check out sellers if they make it difficult to part with info about them walk away.

I've bought and sold stuff on here since year dot no problems, just do some research 1st instead falling over yourself to grab a bargain or save a few £'s in fees.

I bought a tyre off a classifieds only poster from Portugal and paid by pay pal gift.
Turned up in good time and quality. Must admit I didn't expect it to turn up though.

I bought "a night of heated passion" from PetePoddy.
Paid via bank transfer.
All I got was a "sweaty, mildly dissapointing spooning".

No one cared, still awaiting refund.

DrP

were you the spooner or spoonee?

I was unconscious, so cannot answer...

DrP

I was unconscious, so cannot answer...

so how do you know this.....

All I got was a "sweaty, mildly dissapointing spooning".

Hmm?

i can never understand some peoples view that if you dont post on the forums you shouldnt be trusted

Its not a law, its a rule of thumb if you want to add a layer of protection to yourself.

The classifieds is where members can shift unwanted gear and buy other people's, I think where the "only buy from regular posters in main forums" comes from is that that identifies a forum member who's in it for more than just trading.

I have had numerous great experiences buying from folk on here. Appreciate the heads up op.

I was unconscious, so cannot answer...
so how do you know this.....

All I got was a "sweaty, mildly dissapointing spooning".
Hmm?

Buy his digi camera from the classifieds and you'll find out.....

DrP

I have recently split my yeti and sold it on here - everyone has been a pleasure to deal with. I have been buying selling (and making the odd post on the chat forum) on here for years. Never once have i had an issue. My simple moto is to treat everyone how you would want to be treated.

Also, pay with paypal and dont use gift. Simple steps.

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