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I need to start again with a pump (tyres, not shock) to take on the trail. Now so many rides don't involve a bag, it's either a wee frame mounted thing or in a back pocket (if you have a back pocket).
So what are you taking with you these days, if you do? Just a co2? One of these CO2/pump combos? Something minimal just in case or something a bit beefy? Now most of us run tubeless it's turned into something you hardly ever use (until you realise you've lost it as is my current predicament). I can't actually remember the last time I punctured on a MTB.....but there are times when it just feels daft not to be carrying.
Thanks
p.s. has there been a Singletrack mini pump group test of late? edit - oh, they just did... https://singletrackmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/singletrack-unscripted-talking-about-mini-pumps/
I went for the One Up pump with a bottle cage/frame mount with the tool in it, chain pliers and tubes less stabber. I got fed up trying to strap different things to my frame.
Now I just have a tube strapped on and move the pump between bikes.
No it’s not cheap.
Depends what I'm doing.
Normal rides, long or short where I have a camelback I have a Topeak thing. Can't remember the name but it looks like a mini track pump. It's still small. On short rides I don't car too much about weight and on longer ones it's solid, quick and reliable.
Xc racing I carry nothing, without a pit crew my race is over if I flat.
Marathon and endurance racing I have a hybrid co2 pump. That, a light tube and multitool go on my bike somewhere. Bottle cage or saddle bag. Co2 will get me going fast. Hybrid pump will save me a long walk if the co2 doesn't work.
My rides tend to be long and I'm wary of not being able to ride back home or too the car. It might be less of a problem in other places. One hit of co2 seems a bit of a gamble. I've had tyres fail to seal and need multiple hits. A pump gives me that security.
I've had 1 flat I can remember. A ripped tyre at Hamsterley. Didn't seal, plug just slowed it and I limped back to the car along a forest road from the far side of the forest.
I’ve got a Lezyne pump (or 3) and they’re bombproof. Not sure which model, just the standard one about 8-10 inches long (I have 2 as I forgot one at BPW once). The shiny metal one still looks new after years of abuse (got it free with either a MBUK or Dirt subscription) and the plastic one I bought is also bombproof.
I have a Lezyne one(the mini track pump style), no it's not small but it works and I don't notice it when it's strapped to the bike. I got fed up of tiny pumps that barely work when you finally need them.
Ive a Blackburn Mammoth CO2fer which i switch between mtb's
Added bonus is its also a CO2 inflator and stores a 16g cannister inside the pump (25g cannister wont fit)
Tend to use the 16g CO2 cannister to get the tyre near the desired pressure then top up with the actual pump
OneUp pump with tool / tubeless stabber.
Have got through many other pumps over the years: Blackburn, Lezyne, Crank Bros have all failed on me.
I bought a Fabric pump from Wiggle recently for £3.95 including a frame clamp 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Another OneUp user, best pump I've ever had, especially for large volume tyres. The 100cc version just shifts so much air.
I have the tool in the handle with a CO2 cartridge screwed into the bottom of it, I wouldn't use it apart from to blast a tyre back onto the bead if need be. I have a dynaplug so don't use the bacon strips kit.
I bought a Fabric pump from Wiggle recently for £3.95
I got the Milibar for £6 and it's awesome, but sold out now sadly.
Anyway, that's good. I also like my Blackburn pump.
Still carrying (and have used a number of times for others on the trail) my old Topeak Peak DX.
For the mountianbike which gets punctures so rarely I cant remember when it was last used - an ergonomic nightmare by Lezyne.
For rides when the tubeless isn't behaving itself and I might need a bit ore oomph halfway round - mini floorpump, also an ergonomic nightmare from lezyne.
Fixie commuter/tourer/lunchrides - full sized blackburn frame pump.
Road bike - teeny tiny topeak pump (Rocket HP?) that's barely bigger than a shock pump.
Gravel bike - Blackburn Mountain Mammoth. By far the most puncture prone bike, so the pump is a compromise between the size of the horrible Lezyne thing and actually being useable once a month or so.
I've also got CO2, but save that exclusively for if I'm in a hurry, usually when people are getting cold on a winter night-ride.
TL;DR
Blackburn or topeak - it'll be great, just pick the size/usability compromise that suits you.
Lezyne - it'll be shiny, but about as nice to use as holding a knife by the sharp end.
I've got a oneup 100cc pump but I can count the times I've had to use it in the last 3 years on one hand.
I'll get fourteen punctures in a row, now...
One-up 100c as well.
The smallest lezyne I can practically get away with that will fit in a small bag on my bike.
toppeak mountain morph, especially for group rides where we are more likely to get punctures. Just saves a lot of messing around.
Silca tattico too if you have loadsacash
Lezyne mini pumps that come with a clip that fits under a bottle cage. HV high volume for the MTB, HP high pressure for the road bike. Completely forget they're there until you need them.
Big one up, had a lezyne mini track but hated it.
I've a couple of Pharts. Bought cheap from Planet X a few years ago. Have been fantastic.
This looks similar
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJOPIMP/jobsworth-pump-it-mini-pump#TOJOPIMP-BLK
Takes a while to pump up a 3" tyre but does the trick. Even gets road tyres up to a nice pressure.
It’s not a budget option but works well for me, just like so many above I have a OneUp pump usually with a CO2 inside just in case I need to reseat a tyre.
I’ve just bought some of these to hold the pump on my bikes
https://76projects.com/collections/shop-computer-mounts-light-brackets/products/inline-pump-mount
I have loads of OneUp and 76 Projects stuff because it’s all worked so well for me
But it is so rare for me to actually need a pump it’s only ‘Sod’s law’ that keeps me carrying one
Oneup 100cc with tool - used it a lot. There’s barely any paint left on either the pump or the tool. I got one because my pump failed on a ride and I borrowed one from someone else and it was so impressive. Aside from the performance it’s also simple to break down clean and reassemble and you can buy seal kits to refresh it (did so yesterday).
Four and a half stars
£60 for a small pump! It does look nice though....
Truflo 2-stage for me- like a mountain morph but better. Cheap, too
I take a Topeak Race Rocket when i bother with a pump, for all non-XC race type things I have a Lezyne loaded cage with 2 x 60g CO2 cart velcro'd to it on the down tube, also carries the multi-tool, chainlink, chuck, lever and stick on patches.
Racing XC, nowt as the courses aren't that big. Racing Marathon or 6 /12 / 24 hr stuff, the loaded cage.
Recent STW unscripted video on pumps
I have a Lezyne Pressure Drive. Had it for ages. For mtb and road it works fine and is small enough to stick in a hip pack/bum bag.
Offroad I take a CB Gem S mini pump.It's been great,8yrs and counting.
I replaced a stupid Lyzene with a Bontranger Air Support. Just as small, feels a little better made, works. don't have to worry about it unscrewing the valve (yes, I know)
Hardly ever puncture, never used to bother taking a tube/tool pump on +/-2hor local loops. Then I started to ride with a group and realised that that my "just walk home" plan wouldn't work, they'd use their tools rather than let me do that, so I'm then "relying" on their tools, and enjoying a lighter bike. Odd development, nothing changed really, but I now have a saddle bag I move between bikes with tube, tool, levers, plugs, CO2. Don't like the idea of 1 use CO2, but I think I've used 1 in about three years, and I don't have to keep a mount on each bike and shift the pump round as well as the saddle bag.
A Mountain Morph lives in the kiddie trailer, and if I'm ever on a longer ride, where I might bring a sarnie, snacks, spare layer, I'll fit the frame bag and sling the mountain morph in there along with the rest. I've got smaller pumps, but if I'm taking a bag, I've got eh space for the pump that works the best.
Got a jobsworth(planet x)Phart
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJOMP/jobsworth-mini-pump#TOJOMP
It surprisingly good for £3
I went for the One Up pump with a bottle cage/frame mount with the tool in it, chain pliers and tubes less stabber. I got fed up trying to strap different things to my frame.
Now I just have a tube strapped on and move the pump between bikes.
No it’s not cheap
I'm very tempted by this, how is it working out? It's pricey (£165) but solved a lot of problems...
No worries, just saw all the other comments!!
After not needing my emergency pump for at least 2 years I've downsized and gone for the smallest option possible. Takes ages to inflate but that's not my main concern. I took inspiration from these forums by storing it inside the steerer tube so I can safely forget about it. Basically the poor man's OneUp.
I took inspiration from these forums by storing it inside the steerer tube so I can safely forget about it. Basically the poor man’s OneUp
Which bung did you use?
I'm a planet x cheapo person also
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJOLEV/jobsworth-leveche-micro-pump
For what they weigh, and what they cost, may as well put one in all your bikes.
In no way will you inflate a tyre quickly, but with patience they do the job fine and are proving robust.
They've saved several rides, over the years
Goddamn you all reading this has just made me buy a One Up pump and EDC. Gaaah!!!
Road bike – teeny tiny topeak pump (Rocket HP?) that’s barely bigger than a shock pump.
I have those on all my road & gravel bikes - under 100g and very reliable. Takes maybe 200 strokes to get a tyre up to 50 psi, but it works when required.
My MTB pump is a Topeak Mountain Morph (can't actually remember, must be over 20 years old now).
@shermer75 Hope you used the discount code EDC20 from the other thread to get 20% off!
I ditched the heavy CO2 (which you never have enough of) and now carry a cheap Lifeline high volume pump. which after many years of not puncturing I've used twice in the last couple weeks without issue. Plus their cheap tubeless repair kit. EXO+ Rekon and sharp south downs flints are not working out.
Topeak MTB Morph, purchase in 2007, still going strong.
Topeak Mountain DA, but I really want one of those Oneup EDC ones.
Thanks all.
I've just taken advantage of the last day of the 20% off psa for Oneup and bought the EDC tool and EDC 70cc pump (and, god help me for spending so much money, the plug and pliers kit). I say 'take advantage' - I let a bit of a time ending soon promotion con me into spending more than intended! No idea how a search for a new mini pump has just led to £122 purchase, but there it is!
Hopefully this will tick a good number of boxes though. A single 'thing' to cover all things trouble on short mtb rides attached to the bike. Small enough to go in a back pocket for road. Or in the pack for expeditions/all day jobs. Or put the CO2 in it, leave the EDC tool at home and use a conventional saddle bag and tool setup on the road. I guess I'll work it out as I use it.
I've just bought a 100cc OneUp pump for my gravel bike, I've already got the tool on my mtb's which I really like but I think threading a carbon steerer is a no go so got the pump. It's just arrived and looks decent quality and will mean most of my tools will be nicely hidden.
Just to leave this here for future Google finds....
I bought the oneup 70cc pump and the EDC multi tool. Very nicely made pump. Tool is well made but definitely a compromise over some conventional multitools I've owned/own. But all snug in the pump is a complete winner.
Less impressive is the EDC plug and pliers kit. It's a lot of money for what it is. Even worse is, I guess through my stupidity of not realising but they don't make it easy to appreciate, they don't fit in the smaller of the pumps. The smaller pump can take the fork and some bacon strips in the small container but you need the bigger container for the pliers. The site needs a compatibility chart. The fork plug is still something I'd want though which is a bit annoying as you can't buy just that.
We'll see how this goes. I might end up putting the tool in the steerer(with the players) and putting co2 in the pump along with a few other useful bits and bobs like latex gloves and a bit of rag etc.