[Closed] PSA - Planet X London Road frameset for £150

Do these frames take a regular integrated headset or the campagnolo integrated headset?

and "lucd" was supposed to be "pics" with fat fingers on my phone...

Do these frames take a regular integrated headset or the campagnolo integrated headset?

FSA C-40/No.42 ACB.

brant is that the only type of headset that will fit? The [url= http://www.fullspeedahead.com/products/cyclocross/orbit-c-40-acb-integrated-headset/ ]FSA website[/url] says that it is Campagnolo compatible, however stumpy_m4 has fitted an [url= http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-1-18-15-intergrated-headset-with-alloy-cap/ ]IS integrated one[/url] and is saying that it fits fine. Very confused!!

Many headset standards.
Show me a link to the Campag one.

[url= ]This is the FSA spec. [/url]

Thanks, brant, I was going by this website [url= http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/headset-standards ]Park Tools[/url]

Sorry to repeat myself but is anybody 6'2" tall with one of these? Size guide says I could go for either large or X-large, just wondered what anyone else had gone for. I'm currently riding a large Carrera TDF but could find any information on the geometry and don't trust my measurements.

XL

So Based on [url= http://problemsolversbike.com/files/tech/s.h.i.s.pdf ]S.H.I.S[/url] it should be:

Top = ZS42/28.6
Bottom = IS52/40

Right?

As ever the cycle industry came up with a useful system to identify interfaces for Frame/fork measurements and spec' a headset...

And then half the manufacturers find ways to confound the bollox off of customers by quoting all sorts of other numbers and terminology...

How is the OD of a headtube useful to me when I'm trying to match a bearing to the ID?

I'm confused about headsets and a bit thick:

Headset not included, bought the £40 fsa caged bearing one from planet x which was utter junk and an absolute bitch to get the crown race on, so much so i ended up chipping the forks !!!!!
in the end i got a lifeline (sealed bearings) one from wiggle for £19 which is excellent quality

Which was the lifeline one you got? I've never paid more than about £20 for a headset.

Gawd, N+1 could be 5.

Gears and drop bars with discs, could anyone be kind enough to just list the brake options please?!

Avid BB5 and BB7, Shimano Sora, 105, Ultegra at least, Tektro Lyre, TRP Sprye and HyD.

OK who can find me the best bar tape to match the logo colours? 🙂

Is it sky blue or turquoise do you reckon?

This looks pretty close:

https://www.radialcycles.co.uk/lightweight-bar-tape.html

grum this is the £19 lifeline headset [url= http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-1-18-15-intergrated-headset-with-alloy-cap/ ]link[/url] that stumpy is using

Thank you Mr Al of Edinburgh, I have a Sora groupset so that'll work with BB7.

That is excellent, thank you brant, cookeaa and stumpy, I feel like I am armed with enough info to shop around for headsets now, which is great. I never realised that it had become so difficult! 🙂

Ooh that radial bar tape looks good, the one i've got is not the right blue, but i'll see how bad it looks before buying some more. Could do with a saddle to match as well!!

Thanks shermer75 - ordered! I've ordered the bar tape ads - will post pics next to the bike when it arrives if you like. 🙂

Damn, Kinesis Crosslight CX Disks reduced further at Merlin, £243.

Wonder if I'll be motivated to actually build the wheels for this bike now. It's been about 2 years and I've managed one (that needs redoing).

It's arrived!

Seems pretty nice and light, I shall attempt to weigh it tonght just out of interest.

Looks good my only thought upon closer examination is gear cable routing;

All cabling is straight down the underside of the down tube with stops for the gear cabling and a zip-tie points on the centreline for the brakes.
I'm likely to run it 1x9 at the minute and I will be taking it off-road, I think I'd prefer to run a continuous outer to the rear mech like I do on my MTB.
Anyone else doing this?

I drilled out the stops on a C456 frame. 4.5mm bit, steady hand and patience is all you need.

Yeah, not sure I fancy drilling it out as it's new, might just piggy back the brake line down the DT, but then I'll need to route it along the CS, which might look a bit gash... Hmmm.

cookeaa I'm thinking 1x9 too, what gearing you looking at?

Want to use my existing Sora so thinking 42T NW & 11-32 myself.

@richardthird:

I have a spare 34t N/W ring and an 11-32 cassette to start with, which I expect will be pretty spinny on the road but could be handy getting my eye in on muddy trails. Will probably get a 38t though at some point.

Weighed my frame, Size L, came out at 1657g bare fork weighed 808g so 2465g all in, I also happen to have an uncut kaffenback fork which I weighed at 1040g just for reference...

One thing which I found slighty anannoying, the plastic jobbie which you would expect to find under the BB for gear cable routing is missing, just a tapped hole, as it is I will probably use that to P-clip my continuous gear outer to the rear, helping solvine my earlier issue, but I would be quite grumpy about it if I was planning to run a front mech... Anyone else missing this part? Should I have expected one?

Otherwise very happy.

Normally not include a guide under the bb, they're usually £1.50-2 although a p-clip is preferable for routing continuous cable.

Mine arrived at 10am - super quick delivery!
Its nicer than my vitus energie that I sold last year
; going to fit campag veloce 1x9 with a superstar chainguide & modify it with a front much band to be less flexi.

all silver wheelset will complete the look..

Probably just being picky then...

Need to find a shifter now, I have some tektro drop brake levers but I foolishly sold a pair of 4500 brifters last year, the Ruptured one would have been perfect for those build, now need to find a used, Sora or tiagra shifter agai, I have thought about it but I don't reckon I would get on with a bar end shifter as well.

Mine arrived today too.

Going to have 29er wheels, singlespeed, and MTB BB7s with v-brake drop levers... on Midge bars too.

Parts bin special 🙂

Get them built and we`ll have a show of pics 🙂 ..... any excuse to post mine again 🙂

I've started building mine but won't get it finished until after the weekend as i'm waiting for a couple of bits and away for the weekend. Interested to see what others are doing with theirs though as it sounds like there's a few different builds going on.

The shimano wheels off planet x are very nice indeed as well. can't wait to get it finished.

Probably be another couple of years before I build mine - I should really have just bought some ****ing wheels!

One thing which I found slighty anannoying, the plastic jobbie which you would expect to find under the BB for gear cable routing is missing, just a tapped hole,

when I clicked "buy" it flagged the under-BB guide as a recommended/you might want to consider type purchase, should have ordered one at the time, annoying bit of penny-pinching especially as the likes of P-X charge more for postage than the item cost, and I'll be buying it from anywhere other than P-X (along with the headset).

Mine won't get built til Xmas, as its not for me. Just need a groupset but will probably go the route of upgrading one of my drop-bar bikes, and moving the old kit over. May even have a transplant conveyor belt going on with new groupset on roadbike, it's groupset onto my CX bike, it's groupset onto the P-X!

took some pic's last night:

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Frame Weight:
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Fork Weight:
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So thats 2465g

And Just for a bit of weight-weenie Comparison:

Kaff' Fork:
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Carbon Road Fork:
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M/L Carbon Road Frame:
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So as you'd expect it's middle for diddle really, probably gives away 800~900g to a full carbon Road frameset (Obviously built to be a bit more robust though), and probably saves 600~700g over an equivalent all steel frameset?

More than 800g lighter than the Kaff frame and fork innit?

Be nice to see some built up silvers 🙂

£300 for stealth black is still value.

mines come through already which is pretty quick for what was a mixed order (got a Minewt, 2 pairs of SKS guards and various other bits and bobs).

Currently with a neighbour, so t'other half has been instructed to leave it for me to collect!

Bar tape colour not quite right. I've died a little inside.

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My dale synapse was in a crash this morning! Forks are ****ed so i might split, it's a 10 speed Tigara group, 12 months old bb30, dale finishing kit all in good nick. I'll post on here when I know what I'm doing! Might by the lr frame myself.

I reckon to be a proper tart you would need this - seems a bit excessive for a £150 frame though:

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Still not quite the right colour anyway.

Can somebody please tell me what clamp size Front Derailleur I need.
mb

Tiagra 10sp group set for £199.99 anyone? [url= http://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-tiagra-4600-sale-groupset-80400.html ]Merlin[/url]

Are these compatible with BB7?

MB, 34.9 like it says in the spec on the site? Same as seat clamp?

thanks

For those looking at the shimano rx05 wheels on PX they are £5 cheaper on CRC

The weight though, oof! And c&c hubs

The BB width on the PX website is wrong. It's not 73mm it is a 68 mm bottom bracket shell.

PX customer services confirmed this.

Anyone want a 73/113mm square taper BB, brand new 🙁

The BB width on the PX website is wrong. It's not 73mm it is a 68 mm bottom bracket shell.

PX customer services confirmed this.

Anyone want a 73/113mm square taper BB, brand new

yep i can confirm this as i had the same issue ! ... I didnt bother to measure it and just installed BB with spacers etc for a 73mm BB only to find a 5mm gap one side ?
Come on planet X , sort your shit out

Grum - I've gone for this one instead, http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/deda-elementi-handlebar-tape/rp-prod121049 in sky blue. We'll see how close it is when it arrives.
Yours will still good though.

Desperately avoiding the PX website after drinking here as I will probably go for it!
Although when Ive had a sensible think and decided its a bargain theyll all be gone....

Anyway 2 questions:

1) Is the Merlin Cross light wheelset worth the upgrade over the Shimano WH-RX05?

2) Has anyone found hydraulic road shifters at a decent price?

I have most of the finishing kit, but the one thing putting me off is that I would like to run it hydraulic and cant get the man maths to work without getting close to the price of a full PX build - which I could also have in my preferred colour..........

Cheers

Right, large silver frameset and the 19.99 Wiggle headset ordered 😀

2) Has anyone found hydraulic road shifters at a decent price?

I've been through the shed and I seem to have lots of spare shimano brakes which would lend themselves to a poormans V-twin bodge something along the lines this:
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Or this:
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I have plenty of time to do it, and if it's not successful I will just resort to BB7's or similar...

i took this out for a ride today. It's quite heavy but for a smidge over £340, I'm very happy with it (if somebody could do the picture thing, I'd be very grateful)
https://flic.kr/p/s9okxw

£340?!? You must have had some of the parts already, right? 🙂

Same chainset as me but yeah, more details required! At least we've got a built pic tho.

Anyone going for silver finishing kit? (like the pic of the built PX ones even though it lists them as black), tempted myself.

For monksie [waves] 😉

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Thank you Mr M (waves back)
I had the saddle and stem already. Nothing else. I got a top deal from a really nice forum member.
I also have a 120mm silver stem and seatpost for £17 posted for the both if anybody does decide to go with the silver parts route.

hmm, how much of an upgrade would the frame & forks be against a Boardman CX Comp ?

Apart from carbon forks I'm wondering if it is worth the plunge.

The Boardman rides quite well tbh but it is rather portly.

Might just be better spending a bit more on wheels for the comp - but then I could get this frame and then next month the wheels 😆 Damn it.

@ twonks - assuming it's one of the more recent Disc versions I'm not sure it would actually be worth your while, surely you'd be replacing one aluminium frame with another similar aluminium frame...

Perhaps go look for just a replacement Carbon Fork and maybe lightneing the wheelset?

Very tempting.

I notice they have the pro carbon for £250 as well.

BB Spec updated on the website, sorry fort any inconvenience it m,ay haver caused.

The dirty disco bundles look good value

@ Twonk, I'm in the exact same boat as you. I was initially drawn by the 'oooh shiny' urge, but once common sense (read wife) intervened I have decided to just spend the money on upgrades for the CX.

Just waiting for the Fulcrum Racing Sport CX Disc wheels to come into stock at Ribble. The original wheels on the Boardman are 2.4kg which I think is where most of the bulk comes from. Do love my Comp CX though.

Does any one know what I need for the gear cables where they go through the cable stops on the down tube? It looks like a cable guide screws in there but I'm struggling to find what they're called.

Do you mean the barrel adjusters? One each side at the top of the down tube?

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/GXPXCARB/planet-x-gear-cable-barrel-adjuster-for-road-bikes

ads678 did the Sky Blue bar tape arrive yet?!

Cp - they're the ones cheers. Why don't they supply them with the bike if you need these things!!

Richardthird - yeah, it's a bit too light but I'm gonna be using it any way so. I'll post up a pic when I get it built.

Why don't they supply them with the bike if you need these things!!

penny pinching and trying to frustrate and turn off customers, like not including the £1.99 under-BB cable guide.

I'll probably be buying chi-chi anodized barrel adjusters from Not Planet X, like everything else that's going on the frame.

Why don't they supply them with the bike if you need these things!!

To be fair, when I bought my Shimano bar end shifters a while back, I'm pretty sure they came with the barrel adjusters but I feel your pain.

Do you mean the barrel adjusters? One each side at the top of the down tube?

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/GXPXCARB/planet-x-gear-cable-barrel-adjuster-for-road-bikes

No road frame I've ever bought has had the adjusters, always buy them separately.

Aah fair enough then. I'll pick some up tomorrow from the LBS.

Not quite finished, I still need to add gear cables but still waiting for the cable adjusters. Need to redo the right hand bar tape cos I cocked it up, first time i'd done it though, left side is much better.

I think it looks good, pretty pleased with it. 😀

Not sure whether to get a light blue charge spoon or whether it'd be too much.

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Nice, stick with a black seat though 🙂

& level it 😉 Ads, what brakes and where from?

Saddle angle and height correct now!! 🙂

Brakes are these - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-sora-r317-mechanical-disc-brake-caliper/rp-prod120014, but they seem to out of stock now. At CRC any way. They seem pretty good in a ride round the garden sort of way.........

Thanks Ads, looks like you've done your research there. Essentially same as BR-R517 and CX77 but different pad adjustment and a bit heavier, but cheaper.

I'm keen to use Shimanos instead of BB7s, I'm sure they can be as good as the Avids if set up and maintained correctly. And I'm on a budget and want to avoid any red bits 😉

Interesting review [url= http://tractionbikeblog.com/2015/01/05/review-shimano-mechanical-road-disc-brakes/ ]here[/url]

Right. I ordered a standard build BB7 London Road from Planet X a while ago. Picked it up today and took it for it's first ride, just a quick 15 miler over to the edge of the peaks. Thought people may be interested in knowing what I thought about it.

Probably useful to give a bit of background. I bought this to use instead of my 29er Inbred which I use for communing into Sheffield twice a week at 15 miles each way. Main reason was n+1 and also the inbred was getting worn out and I wasn't actually doing any MTBing.

So this is my first drop bar road/gravel/cx whatever they're called at the moment type bike. I ordered an XL in zesty lime as I'm 6' 5".

[b]The Ride[/b] - with the standard Vittoria tyres the ride on this is great. Running them at 70psi and it "floats" over pretty much anything. I was running Schwalbe marathon + on the inbred as a point of comparison. On the ride this afternoon it was way faster than the inbred. Not a surprise really as it weighs just over 10kg but it felt like moving from a land rover to a hot hatch. I imagine a proper road bike would feel like a Ferrari. I took in a few gravel paths and the odd kerb, being all on trend and that, and it seemed fine.

The biggest thing for me was getting used to the drop bars. But I think I'll get there eventually.

[b]The Fit[/b] - I went for a planet x carbon seatpost as an upgrade. I'm currently running this at pretty much full extension. For me the bars are too low. I need to look at getting a stem with some more rise. Oh and the standard planet x saddle doesn't agree with my behind. Other than a bit of tweaking it's pretty good.

I was running flat pedals and I have size 11 feet. I also tend to ride heels in. Only 2 or 3 times did I notice that my left foot caught the end of the chainstay but as soon as I straightened my foot up I stopped doing it. I know a few people have commented about the dropout sticking out but I don't honestly think it will be a big issue. I did have some toe overlap with the front wheel, but again I think that's par for the course.

[b]The Kit[/b] - So my build had BB7s and SRAM Force 22 gears. The brakes initially wailed like a banshee. They seemed to quieten down by the end of the ride. I'd class them as satisfactory currently, no where near as good as the deore discs on the inbred. I was thinking of going the full SRAM hydro route on the bike but just couldn't justify it for a commuting bike. Plus comming from a Shimano background I didn't want to tie myself in to SRAM in case I didnt' like it.

Which takes me nicely onto the gears. Overall I'm really impressed. The changes are crisp and fast. The only issue I have is that there are no gear indicators. Call me a newbie but I like them on the MTB as I can double check where I am on the rear cassette. The other thing I need to get used to is the double tap. 99% of the time it's great. However if you're in the lowest cog at the back and try to change down, you're not met with any sort of resistance, instead it changes you up a gear, not great. This along with the lack of gear indicators caused me a bit of teeth grinding.

Oh also being spinner rather than a grinder on some of the stepper hills (Curbar gap, Winnats pass etc.) I can see the lack of really low range gearing being a problem for me. As it stands I'm used to spinning up them in the granny.

[b]Overall[/b] - As my first drop bar bike I think it's great. I need to sort out the ride position and contact points a bit but I think that's normal for any new bike. I also need to get used to the gears. But overall I'm massively impressed with the ride quality and the speed of the thing.

If anyone has any specific questions let me know and I'll do my best to answer them. Ride details here if anyone cares https://www.strava.com/activities/308941195

Just seen the bike pic on Strava. No wonder the bars feel low if you're running that much seatpost. The bike is too small for you. Yep - by all means try a riser stem...

Nice one Jeff thanks for the write up!! How do you get to see a piccie of the bike? 🙂

First ride last night. Had a blast on some mixed gravel and rooty singletrack.

Singlespeed, BB7s, Midge bars. Derore cranks. Bash ring (no single ring chainring bolts in the shed!), WTB 29er rims, 40c nano tyres. Flat pedals (for now).

I got lucky - 36x19 fits perfectly with no need for a tensioner. Ratio is probably too low for the flat or on road, but good off road.

Need to get some clipless pedals, fit a shorter stem, sort out lever position and drop tyre pressures!