[Closed] PSA: Madison Zenith Men's 4-Season DWR Shorts half price!

Good buy those, Always loved that dry phone pocket position.

How do they size up then?

I'm about a 36 waist usually, which was meant to put me in the large size. I couldn't be bothered to pay the return postage cost (can't remember where I ordered from last time), so ended up sewing extra velcro onto the shorts a couple of inches along from where the original stuff ended on one side. I've ordered medium this time, as my waist size hasn't changed.

Sweet, cheers for that.

You're welcome!

If they're anything like other Madison shorts and trousers they come up big.

Some of them (normal Zenith and Roam) come up small actually.

I've ordered M and L just in case.

Thanks, I’ve just ordered some. That website is utterly terrible on mobile, though. I nearly gave up half way through.

There's almost no excuse for shonky websites nowadays. I try very hard to avoid (sadly not always possible due to budget) CRC/Tredz etc, and look at what actual bike shops that do half decent online offerings have in stock first. There are massive inconsistencies. The best of our local shops is JE James. While not perfect, it actually has a pretty decent website with decent online shop.

In my experience Madison size up big. I'm a 32 waist and their medium is too big so need to size down.

@malv173 Nice one 👍

I've owned a pair of these for about a year. I've got a 35 inch waste and wear a large and they are a good fit. Plenty of adjustment in the velcro straps.
What I would say is that they are quite long and really designed to fit knee pads below. If you are a rider who doesn't wear knee pads they will flap around quite a lot. They are my only shorts now though and I really rate them.
I think they've been this price now for a good couple of months if not more.

In my experience Madison size up big. I’m a 32 waist and their medium is too big so need to size down.

ah well, I'm that awkward 33" waist size and went M. Time will tell. I thought only Endura had the stretchy tape measure

@bruneep - you should be OK with medium if you are a 33.

You should be OK with medium.

<orders> Thanks!

I see they also have the Zenith jacket at £59.99, discounted from £59.99

@Northwind bargain! 🙄

Brill, thanks for the PSA.

Nice one - ta. My zeniths are looking a bit worn. Great shorts at the price.

I see they also have the Zenith jacket at £59.99, discounted from £59.99

Could you let me have a link to that and I'll look into it. Zenith jackets should be reduced from £99.99.

There's still a load of Madison stuff half price at start fitness too.

I’m that awkward 33″ waist size and went M.

Yeah, ditto. I always find myself between sizes, which is crazy considering a 33” waist must be completely common for cyclists.

Also, Madison’s size guide puts 33” waist as large, but from the sounds of the comments here even mediums may be too big.

I’m 32/33 waist and Madison medium fits me well.

Cheers OP..needed some new shorts for work / riding.
Might go for a 2nd pair if i like em

Thanks - bought. Have a Madison rain jacket and it's great, so high hopes for the shorts!

@Mister P, if you hit the link for hte shorts in the first post, you'll see at the bottom there's a couple of items that show the same discount and rrp prices. But if you click through, actually the item pages show it correct. Looks like it's an issue with the "see also these items" rather than the items themselves

Thank you, I see what you mean. Weirdly if you were to use a short link like this -

https://www.freewheel.co.uk/madison-zenith-men-s-4-season-dwr-shorts-varcl039

then the crossed out SRPs look to be correct. Or they do on my computer anyway.

What is the inseam length on the Zenith shorts? Do they go over the knee?

Just measured my current large ones at about 15 inches. I'm just under 6ft 1, averagely proportioned, and they do go over my knees. The outseam is just shy of 26 inches for what it's worth.

Think Madison sizing might have changed - I got a long lasting pair of Zenith (when they were just plain old baggies) - 30" waist, Medium was just dandy. Then got a pair of DTE shorts 3/4s - needed to be large.

Arrived already.

I am a 33in waist and the medium fits but is a bit tight in the gusset.

The large also fits, has a little more space, but might need to rely on the velcro to stay up - which can be frustrating IME.

Hmmm.

Same issue as @chakaping. I've sent those back and punted for a large assuming a) they'll have base layers tucked into them and b) I'm always a bit fatter in winter!

I'm hoping to shed a bit of lockdown lumber but not off my undercarriage (hopefully).

Did you find them a bit tight down below Alex?

Might be totally fine on the bike or even a positive thing (no saddle snagging), but seems unusual.

Got mine - fit like a glove. Didn’t realise the phone pocket is in a different position in comparison to the old ones. Not a deal breaker but I prefer the older one.

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Got mine – fit like a glove.

Ah I thought it was you, Johnny Fivelegs.

Got my mediums today. I’m a 33/34 waist and they are snug rather than loose. But not snug enough to expect that the large wouldn’t be too big.
They’re super stretchy though so I reckon it’s ok. If I’d paid £70+ for them then I guess I’d not be as happy but £37 is great.

Mine arrived today. 35" waist and size large. Fits like a glove. Really pleased. Thanks to the OP for the PSA!

FOUR SEASON MY ASS, by Enid Blyton.

Been waiting for these to come up on offer as my present ones are Only just holding together after 5 years. they do come up large partly due to the stretchy material. Arrived quickly too.

Did you find them a bit tight down below Alex?

Yep! They were fine round the waist, but not sufficient space for 'thunder thighs' and other body parts in the gusset area! I expect the L will be too big which is a shame. I've two pairs of the Flux in Medium and they're a brilliant fit.

Arrived next day with DPD too!
Just a bit unfortunate that they are so long (or my legs are so short).. but i'll keep em.

I expect the L will be too big which is a shame

There's not much between the M and L actually, you might find them perfect.

I need another try on of both I think.

Cheers for the heads up on these - mine just turned up.

Fit in Medium for me is absolutely spot on. I''m 5ft 10 77kg with quite short legs - they are almost like a 3/4 length on me, below the knee when standing, which is absolutely perfect. I'll be running ads usually with these - no enduro-gap!

I'm usually in Endura MT500 in large but cinched down a bit and I've had to give up on my Troy Lee large/34"s as just too big and baggy having lost a bit of chub during CV19.

They are really nice, I'm really pleased. Thanks for the heads up!

34 waist says I should be in L?

I've never ordered from Freewheel however -

They come well packed, delviered by DPD (who are the best couriers by far) complete with cover note and sticky labels for free collect+ returns.

Thus - I'd just order a M and a L if your not sure and try them at home.

I'd say get the large Geomickb

After trying them on blind, I've decided to stick with that and I'm a 33in waist.

Actually haven't measured my waist for a good while, but I won't be more than a 34.

I’m a 34 waist and ordered a large going off the size guide and they’re spot on. Perhaps just a slight tightening up needed with the side velcro tabs but not much.

I think they’re good. Long as mentioned, but no bad thing for winter.

I ordered a small and a large and then a day later got a note a note to say they are refunding one of them.

Problem is they didn't say which.

So the ones that do turn up might not fit and then they will be sold out. Traumatic.

Thanks. They are generously sized, I'm XL in Endura and L in these was spot on.

Got the jacket too but that's going back - L right in the body but short arms, XL right in the arms but flappy elsewhere. The hood seems not quite big enough for a helmet too, but a bit too big for no helmet.

Ordered XL as normal, then an L after reading about the generous sizing.

L fits OK round waist, but rather snug

XL fits less snugly but could be tighter round the waist.

Might have another try tonight and decide which are going back

Mine arrived today (along with someone else's second pair of shorts rather than the jersey I ordered, all being sorted out though).

Nice shorts, as others have said a slightly strange fit as they're snug in the 'gussett' but okay everywhere else (not a humblebrag). But it's not bad enough that they're not worth keeping.

Large were too large. Hanging off my bony hips! Shame as they look a great autumn / winter short. Reckon I'll have to shell out for some more 'one season' Endura's 🙁

Small green were too small for my 32" waist, could just do them up... will send back free returns

The mediums black camo were cancelled by madison

Just ordered some blue mediums as still in stock

a slightly strange fit as they’re snug in the ‘gussett’ but okay everywhere else

Whoo, a VERY snug fit in that area - a bit too snug for my liking, I'll be sending back! Shame, as they were great otherwise.

So at a 32-33 waist but thunder thighs and short 29" inseam legs, will L be too large?

some subtle bragging going on here lads.....

I must try mine on been in bag since delivery

Disappointingly I don't have a snug gussett  ¿

Thanks for the PSA - these are really well built. I the shaped knee sections - perfect for going over knee pads

My mediums turned up yesterday,  but I collected them today.  They fit ok, a little cosy (also no snug gussett!) but they are better than the large, which are slightly loose even with a bit of extra velcro for more tightness.

Still a bargain, and very happy to have inspired a few purchases!

Great service from Freewheel also!

Medium is a bit to snug for me, anyone with a large want to swap for a medium in olive/green?

I got the blue/black in medium, and they are too snug for my liking.

So, would anyone want to swap their blue/black in large for my blue/black in medium?

Thanks.

Anyone have some medium green ones they want to pass on? I spent too long dithering....

Anyone want to swap a pair of small green or medium blue for medium green or black?

I finally got back from a tour and tried my small Green ones - just a wee bit too small. They seem like great shorts though.
Have ordered some medium blue ones, but not my favourite colour...

Ta