[Closed] PSA Hello Dave

I'm struggling to see where they got the original £800 price tag from - did anyone buy one at that price?

I’m struggling to see where they got the original £800 price tag from

Price of scaffold poles has gone through the roof, like everything else.

Takes a lot of skillful frame building techniques to make a head angle look that silly.

It's the bend in the seat stays that triggers me.

Geometry looks excellent TBF... for a full-suspension bike.

a hateful masterpiece!

I wouldnt go anywhere near one personally, mostly as it reminds me of those utter bellends.

But fair play to On-One for keeping their dream alive and ripping the absolute urine out of them with the bikes description.

bravo!

Everything about that frame makes me upset. However, I will fondly remember its origin as one of the most comical episodes in MTB history.

Thankfully a bike's better judged by how it rides than how it looks. You've all clearly never ridden one.

I think it looks fine tbh. It'd be much nicer if they'd just managed to unbreak its back- hardtails always look stupid when the toptube and seatstays go concave like that. But it's functional and handsome enough.

Obviously not an £800 frame but On One gotta On One. And as crap as they are, they're still better than Sick!

I still love mine!

I guess if they sell at £800, the price is £800.

Either on one have

-ordered too many

-ordered enought they can sell with a smaller discount

-they weren't selling at £800.

I've still only seen one other in the wild.

I guess if they sell at £800, the price is £800.

Nah, it's a transparent and rather shitty marketing ploy.

They should be ashamed if they've sold any to newbies at that price.

I don't even think they ever retailed at £800 though - this review says the frame-only price is £599.99: https://www.mbr.co.uk/reviews/hardtail/on-ones-hello-dave-is-the-sick-bikes-hardtail-that-never-was

If I could be arsed I'd check Google cache or the Wayback machine or something...

I don’t even think they ever retailed at £800 though – this review says the frame-only price is £599.99:

The on one site says ‘was £799.99’

I am tempted, it looks daft, but fun daft.

With this frame I would be a cassette and a fork away from a complete spares box build so it is even more tempting.

You’ve all clearly never ridden one.

The first step towards riding a new bike is actually wanting to. This one, I can live without.

Do it @hoooli! Mine happened the same way and I love it.

It believe PX set the price at £800 to ensure they kept enough stock for full builds. I'm guessing they have plenty now.

The on one site says ‘was £799.99’

Well, yes, but it might be like the fictional prices DFS used to claim their sofas sold for...

There's loads of rules about how long things have to be advertised at a certain price for to count as the original price when discounting: https://www.asa.org.uk/advice-online/promotional-savings-claims.html

Of course its nigh-on impossible to keep tabs on now with retailers changing prices according to browsing histories and so on.

I’m pretty sure the frame was listed on the Planet-X site at £799 for much of last year as I always looked at it and wondered if they were actually selling any.

finbar
Free Member

Of course its nigh-on impossible to keep tabs on now with retailers changing prices according to browsing histories and so on.

PX have listed brand new never-available-before stuff as "discounted" as soon as it went on the website which is definitely Not Allowed. But nobody really cares I think at this point

Love mine. Had a full build for a couple of years, got some stronger wheels and a smashpot in the pike and changed the shite Planet X parts bin contact points but it’s doing alright. Is not really a trail bike. I ride mine mainly on dh tracks and steep techy woods and the local jumpy stuff. Looks like it’s been in an accident, weighs probably as much as my full suss due to the coil fork, hope wheels, dh tyres, insert etc but it’s one hell of a fun bike.
Steep steady ups, steep downs. If you’re considering one for anything else then I wouldn’t bother, £300 only makes it a bargain if it’s what you’re after. There are always plenty for sale on pinkbike for this very reason.

How much were Sick!! going to sell their version for?

I'm tempted, it's just a headset away from just a straight swap of the parts off my Scandal as the 35 just needs spacers taking out......

But then I bought the Scandal because I was fed up with buying very nice, but very niche bikes and just wanted something that was rideable everywhere, every day 🤣

It believe PX set the price at £800 to ensure they kept enough stock for full builds. I’m guessing they have plenty now.

That's the story I heard too, makes sense as the parts in build kits they buy from SRAM can't be sold to consumers. So if you've got an equal number of very expensive Pike forks and cheap-ish frames during a global supply chain crunch, you can't sell the frame or you'll have the forks sat in the warehouse for months.

How much were Sick!! going to sell their version for?

£500, pre pandemic, and they never actually managed to deliver any at that price .....

https://www.mbr.co.uk/news/bike_news/sick-grim-ripper-372840

That wasn’t it. That was the Marino built batch that they didn’t pay for. These were the Taiwan made ‘Shrike’ (Hello Dave) and the ‘Sesh’ (Tik Tik) iirc they asked £600, having miscalculated how much they needed to charge in previous models.

Been out on mine to Gisburn today. For £300 they are a bargain. At 6'5" I love the fact I'm finally on a frame big enough for me without having to spend mega money on a Geometron (I know its not a direct comparison)

Does this ride better than a Moxie MX3? The Mx3 you can launch into most things and make it out. I used a longer one around the tweed valley and it was brilliant. I used to warm up on nae spleens before it was lost and what a fun bike.

What is the quality of this frame like? Will the tube-set last a few seasons? That price is crazy. I can get a set of garden tools for that price at Dobbies 😛

If you have a moxie I doubt it would be worth swapping out unless the moxie is the wrong size. The Dave does go well, it doesn’t have that old school skinny tubed 853 compliant ride, I never expected it to either, but I’ve hammered mine, I’ve raced dh on it at Gawton down here in the south west and ridden all the local big stuff, double blacks etc plus big jumps and steep natural tech. It’s taken it all in it’s stride, rides best when you’re wringing it’s neck. I blew the damper on the pikes on mine last week - that’s an indication of how hard a life mine gets!

Thanks for the insight. I have been through two moxies in long and longer the last 2 years and they were a blast. Preferred the hardtail to the full moxie.
At this price though for a nice frame it is tempting. Even though back on a FS I do miss the hardtail a bit. I liked the pipedreams as they had an ED coating so did not rust much over 2 years.

I don't think there's much chance of a HD rusting through! (although I did squirt a bit of waxoyl inside the lower head tube gusset).
As above due to the geometry and burly tubeset they only start working properly when you are ragging it.

The thing I don't like about the Moxie is the lack of head tube gusset - I have bit of a wierd unfounded engineering hangup of under gusseted front ends on slack head angle frames.

When I changed the dropper out a few weeks back there was a bit of corrosion in there, as in the post was a bit orange where it had been inserted but internally the seat tube looked fine, just a bit of surface corrosion. No fancy treatments though. I also have a transition sentinel, great bike but it wasn’t getting a look in until I blew the fork up on the Dave! Add yourself to the mailing list for 10% off and for £270 it’s a bargain. £800, not a chance it’s worth that but for sub £300 it’s a no brainer. If I wrote mine off tomorrow I would replace like for like.

Head tube gusset - also reassured by that, especially when I upped the Pike to 160mm when I put the smashpot coil conversion in, putting it to a bonkers 61.5 deg!

Can these frames take a 180mm rotor?

Yes. It’s a pain in the arse to do one of the bolts up on the adaptor (need a ball ended Allen key) but it goes. Only the first batch of frames were 160mm only as they messed up the build spec. I’m on 200 front and rear. That’s on guide re brakes (so older spec code callipers).

Thanks for that info. I got a full parts set for 27.5 but will shift and try get some 29er stuff.

Love my one. It's good at it's intended use, being ridden on steep down hill trails.

Wouldn't have one as my only bike nor for xc type trails, it's just too heavy and slack in my opinion.

Great N+1 bike or someone wanting an Enduro bike on a budget.

I have a 170mm 27.5 zeb ultimate and some sixth element pro enduro wheels. I could just save the re-sale loss and fit them to this frame. It will be slack, I did this to one of my moxies with a 170mm Yari and 27.5 wheels and the geo ended up the same as a moxie in 29er form with a 160mm fork.

I have seen a couple of Daves online built up with 27.5 - not sure how well it works but it has been done. The zeb is the perfect fork for this bike, I’ve been tempted to put mine on it from the sentinel but I resisted and put a smashpot in the pike.

I ordered a large version. Nice 36gbp off with the code. Will see how a 170mm Zeb (taller than a 170 lyrik) and 27.5x2.5" works out. Thanks for the info above. I have had a few hardtails like the BFE max, Moxies and Torrents. Will see how this compares.

Was fettling with my Dave earlier and remembered I had a spare set of Stooge Moto bars. Got me wondering what would it be like combining two craziest bike choices I've ever bought.

A short while later and I'm hurtling down the road wondering why I'd not done it sooner.

So when you build up your Dave, go big with the bars! Helps tame the slack frontend.

under 2 day shipping. It is a very well made frame. Great welds. Makes my Rune look small. Both large.

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Will build up tomorrow then hit the local (Dollar)

Nice 😎 black on black is the way forward, hides the fact it’s an On One perfectly 😂 Mine is back in the game after a damper change in the Pikes yesterday.

Nice in black. The green is nice in the flesh, sometimes think I should have gone with the Orange but the green hides it's wear marks better.

I reckon that On-one should have called it the Winch and Plummet. It's perfect at the steep stuff. Up the Ochils will be fun.

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Need a longer chain. It's heavy but feels good down the street. 175mm cranks may need changing too. Was stoked a 180mm rear rotor fitted.

Nice 😎 black on black is the way forward, hides the fact it’s an On One perfectly 😂

haha I like it. This one will get very abused.

OK, that looks pretty nice, I have to admit.

Needs a better pic if this damn sun would go away.

Well that is my rig for the summer. Tossed the FS for now. Next FS will only have 2 bearings!

It may look a bit fetched, but from what I've heard it has great reviews. I think I'd be tempted for my next HT!

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Nice quality frame. Fits pretty good at 6ft. In between the long and longer moxies.

Right, off to cut the grass, spray 100 gal of glycosulphate on those weeds and burn that shed.

Here's my XL, stock build apart from Rethal bars and Odi's. As you can see it's nearly as long as a Berlingo!
The orange is a bit 'hi-viz' but it was the only colour in stock in the sale at the time. Will get Nitromors'd / clear coated at some point.

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Next FS will only have 2 bearings!

A man after my own heart - Orange or Starling?

I quite like the 'dyno-rod orange' - at least you won't lose the bike!

That orange Dave looks great.

A man after my own heart – Orange or Starling?

Morph FS based out of Guildford. 150 forked 142mm rear travel 29er.

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Morph FS based out of Guildford. 150 forked 142mm rear travel 29er.

Ooh that's nice, lovely bit of filet brazing.

I've just gone to a Starling myself, turns out steel actually is real.

😀

Yeah they ride great. Steel is fun and fast!

Sweet build that. Looks nice with those grey Zebs 😎 enjoy giving it a good beating!

So after a few laps of the local I have to say I am pretty impressed. It charges way harder than many other hardtails. First ride and I trust the traction on it completely. The 170mm Zeb and 27.5 ride so well. Even with 175mm cranks no issues on some of the rooty and rocky climbs. I do not think I would want this bike in 29er form. Maybe if I lived somewhere with really long trails.

It is heavy but I did not notice it much coming off a heavy ripmo AF. I would say it maybe pedals better or more comfortable.

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Been round Cannock Chase on mine today - I'm still amazed by how quick it turns when darting through swoopy tree runs yet when you weight the middle of the bike and let it off its leash it's perfectly stable.
You have to move around a lot and if you don't weight the front it will push on but new school LLS geometry is brilliant for a lanky bugger like me.

It's a surprisingly fun bike, innit?
I mulleted mine with a plus tyre this weekend. Great fun.

Glad some people got some fun out of my PSA. They look rad built up!

@lightfighter762

Lovely looking frame.

Is that the stream gap jump at fort William? I thought it was closed for everything but the world cup? A) props for riding it, it's massive b) when is it open?

What's the head angle at with 170mm forks? It's 62 degrees at 150mm, isn't it?!

If I had space I'd have one of these, slap on a pair of cheap lyriks and a beefy/cheap set of wheels and you're good.

tall_martin
Full Member

Is that the stream gap jump at fort William? I thought it was closed for everything but the world cup? A) props for riding it, it’s massive b) when is it open?

It's open pretty much all the time now- they reshaped it a lot after the first year or so to make it more sensible for the public. Landing is lower now and less abrupt, so it's less all-or-nothing than it was. Though the approach is a bit awkward now imo.

It still shits me up though just because it's made of wood!

I think it's only the big doon and a section of world cup woods that's closed to the public now. Though I'm honestly not sure what the "real" lines are now before the big doon, there's some good stuff that seems mothballed.

Glad some people got some fun out of my PSA. They look rad built up

Definitely! It has been a pretty fun bike. Really look forward to riding it all the time. The Moxie was excellent but I feel this is better. Maybe heavier, not have an ED coating but the stability and confidence make it one of the best hardtails I have ridden to date. It is not slow either on the ups. The large is comfortable, just sit and spin. Was really impressed yesterday climbing around Bridge of Allan and then up to Dumyat. Heading back down there is a drop you can hit quite fast into some rocks and it felt really good. Then down into Witches Craig there are some nice fast sections that go into root steeps. Bike handled it really well. Really fun. Clips making a difference no doubt on the rough sections. Frame is stiffer than the Moxie.

For the money you can't go wrong. Will just see how long the frame lasts.

Is that the stream gap jump at fort William?

That was testing the morph proto trail frame 142 rear with a 150 lyrik. Poor cane creek inline air took it like a champ and a few 1000mi later has just blown. The whole bike has been battered but with quality steel it has plenty of life left. Just two bearings like an Orange. Uses the same bearing kit and extractor.

Frame is stiffer than the Moxie.

That is why i got rid of my v1. flex meant 29 wheel with a 2.3 tyre (max it could take) rubbed HARD when cornering. They lied saying it could take 29 basically.

Killed damper number 2 on the Pikes on my Dave at the weekend at Gawton. Can’t afford a Zeb but managed to find a new Domain for £395 so I’ve gone for that. Hopefully it’s ok, not expecting the same damper performance as my Zeb ultimate but I’m looking forward to some extra stiffness. Amazes me every time I take it to a proper dh venue just how capable it is (I’ve just found the limits of the forks).

I wouldve bitten Brants arm off for one of them a few years ago, back when i had time and inclination to find and ride filthly local DH tracks.
I wouldve gone singlespeed myself, as i wouldve been pushing it back up anyway.

As it is, i dont get time to play with the bikes ive got. Boooo.

Whats the story behind the name then? who's a bellend?

Whats the story behind the name then?

your my wife now was it not?  i.e they took them over /bought them all up from the guy in south america making them for sick?

Yeah they were the sick bicycle frames, the name comes from the league of gentleman character, Papa Papa Lazarou.

'You're my wife bike now' 😁

How are you all getting on with your Dave's?

As much as I wanted to click buy on the orange one, I decided it was too much bike for what I would use it for.

Saying that, I do keep checking and they haven't sold out yet and I am still tempted...

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Been enjoying mine. Use it all around the local hills up to 700meters. Was on a Moxie Mx3 before and I feel like this just rides better. Even on the flat. It is nice having the ability to hit all the steep stuff on the way down. Not saying the Moxie can't. This just feels way more solid at speed and does net get deflected as easily or feel so. Need a 240mm dropper next! Still have 30mm showing on a large frame with a oneup 210. My plan was to ride it and then transfer all the parts to the Airdrop Slacker when available.

A ti loco moto will be a bit quicker for all round use.

Still loving mine (XL orange one in the pics above). Only bike used for everything - XC/bimbling about/caning the absolute shit out of downhill.
Bit wandery on climbs but it plods up stuff fine.
Excellent VFM.

How are you all getting on with your Dave’s?

Love it!
I've got a big birthday coming up and was toying with the idea of switching to a Moxie, but after trying one out, I realised just exactly how much I love the Dave. It's almost perfect for what/where I ride.

Still absolutely love mine. It’s soooo heavy for a hardtail but it’s so good on full on dh stuff. Not much of an all rounder imo, but for bimbling up and hammering down its great. The only frame I would contemplate changing mine for would be the ti version, the Titus loco moto as mentioned above. That’s a bargain at the minute at £500.

I may try the XL with the prices still great. That orange!

I have 27.5 wheels and a 170mm Zeb which is taller than most other 170mm forks. Head angle now is 61deg and seat angle is 76 degrees. Feels pretty good. I got on a Np Scout the other day and it just felt a bit plain compared.