PSA DT XM1700 wheels crc

Really decent PSA.

HWYABX00S3745S for the HG freehub. Makes it slightly less of a bargain when you see the cost of that kit :D. https://www.dtswiss.com/en/support/product-support?matnr=WXM1700TEDRSA11567

Are they not XM481 rather than EX471 rims? Still a good deal but they are 30mm rims (wider) and a bit less robust than the EX471, probably suit most though..

I think they are XM481 as well.

Apologies, XM481! Too many numbers and letters going on! Yeah the freehubs are silly money but hoping someone might have a spare HG kicking around that they might want to get rid of or swap. Can always sell the xd on.

This will fit for those running microspline.

https://www.merlincycles.com/dt-swiss-micro-spline-ratchet-freehub-body-282472.html

XM481 on those, rather than EX471, but yes, great deal.

> https://www.merlincycles.com/dt-swiss-micro-spline-ratchet-freehub-body-282472.html < Does this fit for boost as well as 142?

Yes the Merlin one fits boost

I have an old DT Swiss HG freehub I’d swap for an XD Driver if you want.

For HG you also need to swap the end cap. I've a spare freehub but not end cap.

I bought these a few months ago when the same offer came up. Holding up great. Fairly quiet too - doesn't sound like a load of bees following you. My pair in 29in Boost weighed 1.87kg.

Bought an MS freehub and endcap for £50, then sold the existing XD on ebay for about £40. It's quite cheap to make these wheels match your cassette.

Freewheel are the UK distributor for DT Swiss - they were really helpful on the phone explaining with parts to get.

Cheers hobnob. I've messaged you. Thanks for the offer also nixie!

@northersouth respectfully I doubt that weight is accurate. The list weight of the lighter centre lock set is 1971g. My 240s exp on the same rim with lighter spokes come in at 1872g and those hubs are a fair bit lighter.

Freewheel == Madison

I was about to buy a pair of 350s hand built onto XM471 with DT DB spokes. Basically exactly this spec. Best price I could find was £550ish. Makes these a bargain even with the cost of a new freehub.

I think that the Merlin link is the wrong freehub for these wheels. It’s the one for the 370 hubs (or at least that’s the one in the picture).

I think the merlin link is the right product as the description is definitely ratchet. However the pic does appear to show the start of LN after ratchet. Text makes not mention of LN which makes me think it's the correct part.

Yes it's a great deal for these wheels.

The merlin freehub definitely fits the ratchet hubs, I bought one a couple of weeks ago for a set of 240's.

Any thoughts on how these would hold up compared to the E1900 (DT's budget enduro wheel) I'm currently running but are needing replacing? My local trails are Golfie, Inners etc. Thanks

Depends how hard you are on wheels.

I killed an XM481 on my second ride at Thornilee with a Nukeproof insert in. So for the rear I am now much happier on EX471 and EX511 and a better insert.

They are pretty robust it just depends how clumsy you are- I think I was just unlucky.

@northersouth respectfully I doubt that weight is accurate. The list weight of the lighter centre lock set is 1971g. My 240s exp on the same rim with lighter spokes come in at 1872g and those hubs are a fair bit lighter.

The list weight of them is 1895g? DT are usually pretty much spot on when it comes to their wheel system weights in my experience.

Bear in mind they are 28H wheelset.

As for their durability, the hubs are pretty much bomb proof, the rims I would say have been probably the most reliable I have ever used. I built a set in 2017 which had 3 years of racing on them, including 6 or 7 EWS’s, a month in Canada & god knows how much other stuff & they looked wrecked, but were still straight, very little in terms of dings & just kept rolling. I ended up putting them on my ebike & used them on it for another 2 years before the back wheel started to crack around the eyelets.

I reckon they probably did 500,000m of descending in total.

Before that, I broke a lot of carbon wheels. So these have been stronger, more reliable, not really any heavier & IMO, they ride better than carbon too.

Yeah you're right, I looked at the ex version 🤪. Back in my box.

Thanks all, will take a punt on this. Have bought the rear wheel and the Shimano Micro Spline freehub from Merlin. Does anyone know the part code of the XD Driver and end cap that I'll be removing from the wheel? Will be sticking it on ebay shortly! Thanks

The list weight of them is 1895g?

Is that the 6-bolt version?

I really shouldn't, but...

36T engagement is a negative these days.

Anyone know if a steel freehub from the Hybrid series would fit these? I have the H1900 on my Mondraker ebike but the rear wheel is falling apart. Had HX1501 before which were superb but can't find any good deals on H1700 or 1501 so tempted to give these a try

Adding links for the referral fee

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/p/dt-swiss-xm-1700-rear-wheel

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/p/dt-swiss-xm-1700-front-wheel

Wow, mine have already turned up! Less than 24 hours after ordering. Just need the other driver and good to go, my existing hunt wheels can go on my partners ragley marley she just ordered so everyone's a winner!!

Does anyone know the part code of the XD Driver and end cap that I’ll be removing from the wheel?

Xd driver kit is HWYAAL00S3188S according to https://www.dtswiss.com/en/support/product-support?matnr=WXM1700TEDBSA13806

This one should fit (convert to MS)

But it is steel instead of aluminium - heavy but much more durable. Good for emtb?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275567867233

Nixie - thanks!

@davosaurusrex

29? I am probably selling my HX1501 if they are of any intrest, about 260km on them but the e-bike has been sold.

Yep 29. Drop me a DM please

Well I was swithering, thinking that's a great price and they're awesome wheels - but I've got some really good rear wheels so can I justify a new pair?

Then I remembered they're selling individually so I can just buy a front (where I think the XM481 28h will work really well) 😀

So thanks for that OP.

An extra 10% off with code UPGRADE

I couldn’t help myself

An extra 10% off with code UPGRADE

Aw, piss, missed that! I did save £30 because the LBS let me have a slightly scored HG freehub body for a tenner. Thanks Ben.

Fitted yesterday. Hub noise is ASMR compared to the rasp of the Hunts!

Hunt Trail Wides for sale! Would suit some who likes a fast pick-up (2x these DTs) and a louder hub.

Uh what? Gutted I missed an even better deal!!! Also, anyone with a spare HG driver that they want to sell/swap for an XD then feel free to PM me! I'm going to ask my local shops as well.

Well, they're sold out now, so you might have missed out if you'd hung on.

I got lured in by that extra 10% off, but then failed to spot where the code went. Hey-ho, still great price.

Also on the look out for a HG driver...

Also on the look out for a HG driver…

Def worth asking - You'd think there'd be a few around in drawers about the place, post 12 speed upgrades.

Does anyone know what the difference is between the two versions they're selling, the ones with and without "Spline 30" after "XM 1700"?

The Spline versions are 27.5 only, but non-spline versions are both 29 (now sold out for the rear) and 27.5.

Could be spoke count and/or straight pull vs J bend

(by choice I’d go 32 J bend but have no problem buying 28 straight pull from DT especially at the price)

Just took a look. If you are comparing what I think you are looking at then I don’t know as the description says Spline even though the title doesn’t. Could be the exact same thing. Unfortunately sometimes CRC product descriptions are a bit flakey

Spline = microspline freehub

Other ones are xd.

Thanks! Luckily the front 29 is now sold out and the UPGRADE code didn’t work on the 27.5 rear.

I really didn’t need another pair of wheels for a frame I haven’t bought yet. There’s a box in my office with the unmounted HX 1501s I bought last year 🤣

The  spline version has absolutely nothing to do with microspline so that's miss information

It denotes the hub difference spline is a 2 piece hub which they bond together after machining the 2 parts to make it marginally lighter

It's OK for trail riders or lighter riders but stay away if your north of 75 kg or like pie's

Thanks! Ordered yesterday and already here! These are to replace the wheels that were on my base model Levo for a few years and then on my Moxie for the last 18 months (I’m amazed they’re still in one piece!) I’d been planning to get some XM481 on Hope hubs but wasn’t sure on spoke count. This has saved a load of thinking and even more money!

I’ve got EX511 on Hope with 32 spokes on the Levo so I think these should be good on my 160mm hardtail - probably with inserts because I don’t like worrying about dents or pinch flats.

The specs on crc show the only difference is the freehub as far as I can see. Both based on a 350 hub, so not sure where that info about two halves is from. Any pointers?

Each wheel name usually includes either 'Dicut' or 'Spline'. This refers to the interface between the hub and the spoke. Here's DT Swiss's explanation:

Dicut DT Swiss’s lightest, stiffest and most aerodynamic hub and spoke system, aimed squarely at competitive road and track riding where speed is the overwhelming priority, uses custom Nailhead spokes that can hold much higher tensions.

Spline DT Swiss’s classic straight pull system, a great balance between stiffness, comfort, low weight and easy serviceability, ideal for everyday road or mixed terrain use and uses readily available standard straight-pull spokes.

Google suggests SPLINE just means straight pull spokes are used (an abbreviation of straight pull line I suppose)

Edit: beaten to it ^ too slow on the google

Thanks all. So maybe the only difference is that one is XD and 6-bolt, and the other is Microspline and CL. The RRPs are different which also threw me.

Edit: beaten to it ^ too slow on the google

yeah but you were quick with the code which is what counts!

I suspect they are the same wheel, maybe with different freehub. Maybe stock brought in at different times, hence slightly different descriptions. But who knows!  CRC seem to be experts at having the same item listed several times at the moment eg M6100/m6120