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Not sure if this has already been posted but this vid is worth a watch. Reminds me of riding in Zermatt but some of these steeps are in another league...


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:26 pm
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Nice, well made short vid.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:31 pm
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His other vids are worth a watch too. Check this one out, its insane! Really want to see part 2...


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:33 pm
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Thank the lord he does not open his mouth again. I kept asking my self is that fun or not?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:37 pm
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Sweet


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:39 pm
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Another one:


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:44 pm
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Very impressive, but massively tilted camera angle. Not saying I would even try any of that (I hate those steps with logs on each edge) but those pictures are about as straight as an MBR shot.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:45 pm
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yeah thats the stuff right there,i wanna go!!!


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:50 pm
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i want some of those slow speed skills


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:52 pm
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but massively tilted camera angle. Not saying I would even try any of that (I hate those steps with logs on each edge) but those pictures are about as straight as an MBR shot.

Yeah I did think that but its still obviously bloody steep. Just watch the second vid if you want confirmation that they are completely nuts.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 6:53 pm
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some hairy moments there!


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 7:13 pm
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Great vids, and some very good riding. However, is it just me or was there a lot of unnecessary rear wheel hopping? Don't get me wrong: It's a great skill, and very useful in places, but just wasn't needed on many of those corners.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 8:21 pm
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How do you do that thing, where you're stationary and somehow elevate the back wheel, turn the frame around the fork and take off in the new direction. Without falling on your face!?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 8:28 pm
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Good control of your front brake and shifting your weight around: Standard mtb skills 😉


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 8:30 pm
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Full sus and flats - pah!


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 8:35 pm
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Very impressive, but massively tilted camera angle. Not saying I would even try any of that (I hate those steps with logs on each edge) but those pictures are about as straight as an MBR shot. "

Yup, that put me off- really nice riding and shooting but in almost every shot I found myself checking out the angle and figuring out how steep it really was. It's not all tilted but an awful lot is. Some of it is still really damn steep but once you realise so much of it is, well, fake then it's hard to take the rest at face value. Shame.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 8:46 pm
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can you import mpora vids here? seems not or im doing it wrong.

Good skils on show here [url= http://dirt.mpora.com/news/thinkbig-action-heroes-trailer.html ]Dirt - Action Heroes Vid[/url]


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 8:55 pm
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I really enjoyed those videos. They were really well made and beautifully shot. I especially liked that I sat and watched two men going uphill and I wasn't bored - quite the opposite, I was riveted!

To my mind, those are some of my favourite mtb videos I've ever seen, really inspiring.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 8:55 pm
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Yeah but look at the size of their packs 😉


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 9:01 pm
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mmmmm Paulaner. Awesome videos, and absolutely mental riding.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 9:08 pm
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Yeah great vids, a break from the normal stuff, very refreshing.

Another one:


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 9:09 pm
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Yeah but look at the size of their packs

That's for their parachutes.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 9:15 pm
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don't look right, don't look right, don't look right.... arghhh I looked right...

Fantastic videos.. what amazing skills and location.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 10:04 pm
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That's awesome stuff. Love the via-ferrata hike-a-bike. And in the first vid, the cheeky hairpin overtaking manoeuvre.
Very Euro, but who cares?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 10:17 pm
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next year hopefully,hike a bike it is.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 6:25 pm
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Mikey74 - I think you should post a video of yourself showing exactly how those corners should be ridden...

didn't think so.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 6:37 pm
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Mikey74 - I think you should post a video of yourself showing exactly how those corners should be ridden...

didn't think so.

Some of those corners did not need you to hop the back wheel around to make. All I was saying was that their style was a bit overtly showy for my taste. Great skills though.


 
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mmmmm Paulaner. Awesome videos, and absolutely mental riding.

don't agree... really don't like the taste of Pualaner. Much prefer the likes of Erdinger, Schneiderweisse or Franziskaner.

saw these vids a while back. well put together.

the flicking the back wheel thing is useful when the trail is too steep to carry any speed into the corner and you're moving slowly.

that's the sort of riding i enjoy.... steep and techy.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 6:54 pm
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Some of those corners did not need you to hop the back wheel around to make. All I was saying was that their style was a bit overtly showy for my taste. Great skills though.

I agree with mikey74, I thought they were using the rear wheel hop thing a bit too much.


 
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Some of those corners did not need you to hop the back wheel around to make. All I was saying was that their style was a bit overtly showy for my taste. Great skills though.
I agree with mikey74, I thought they were using the rear wheel hop thing a bit too much.

and me, just been having this same argument with a mate. yes, in some cases on that vid they were needed, but not every damn corner. not knocking their riding either.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 7:10 pm
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Alpin - Haha, well I wouldn't turn a Paulaner down post ride, but yeah, I agree. Lot to be said for Edelweiss & Weihenstephaner aswell imho. I'm still waiting for a Fristo Getränkemärkt to open in the UK.

I miss the Alps.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 7:24 pm
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Weihenstephaner ... another good one...


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 7:27 pm
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They haz no barends?

I is confuzed?


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 7:41 pm
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I guess that's why I'm a big Jessie. I was hugely impressed, but I didn't like any of that. I need boggy marshland and soft grass around me to break all the falls. All that hoppety-hop business down the rocks would have me on intensive care, bandaged from head to foot and being fed through a straw, within the first 20 yards. Where do you start working up to that sort of thing?


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 7:42 pm
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I was getting vertigo just watching the second one - walking up on a snowy ledge carrying a bike in shoes that didn't look like they had the grippiest (for snowy rock at least) sole. Ouch


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 9:04 pm
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Where do you start working up to that sort of thing?

in your garden, in the park... anywhere where you can ride your bike. best to pratice somewhere (safe-ish) first before riding those sort of trails.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 9:06 pm
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there's an Austrian "crew" that make similar vids. just been looking for them, but can't remember the names of any.

one of the guys has a very creative riding style.... i'll keep looking.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 9:25 pm
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found them...


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 9:42 pm
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[url= http://www.biking-hiking.at/ ]Austrians with insane riding skills you say?[/url]


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 9:57 pm
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Sorry but watching both vids i thought that they were ruining a good walk. And walking doesn't normally beat riding but all that slow speed hoppity hop stuff - great skills for sure but thats not the essence of riding for me. Give me some fast flowiny singletrack please.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 10:36 pm
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Sorry but watching both vids i thought that they were ruining a good walk.

mikey74

Some of those corners did not need you to hop the back wheel around to make.

Agree with the guys above, and the angles seemed very skewed. At any rate, it actually seemed pretty laboured and in a way tame compared to [url= http://www.pinkbike.com/news/berrecloth-pov-2010.html ]this[/url] which, you can rest assured is steeper and probably much more difficult, only it's ridden with insane commitment and skill


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 10:56 pm
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That's a completely different type of riding, you're comparing apples and oranges there.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 10:59 pm
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That's a completely different type of riding, you're comparing apples and oranges there.

Is it though? Or are the riders just riding very in very contrasting styles? I've ridden down mountains before, steep enough that I had to scale parts of them on my hands and knees. I learned there was two ways to get down, teeter down on the brakes, like those guys or go balls out and hope for the best.

I reckon (and I admit I am speculating here) the guys in the video could have cut loose and attacked that trail a bit - guaging their speed and cornering accordingly. Ask yourself, how do you think Gee Atherton would have negotiated the trails in that video?

Fast and loose I reckon.


 
Posted : 07/10/2010 11:07 pm
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Sure someone like gee atherton would have ridden it differently but you simply cannot carry speed on some of these trails. Those steps for example, I would fly down those on my glory, speed would be your friend for sure but not if they end in a rocky steep hair pin with vertical cliffs off to the side.

Some of the black hiking trails in zermatt are similar, very tech hair pins with very tech entries and exits and simply no option to cock it up or you're off a cliff. I was riding the hair pins, whereas my mate was giving it a little rear wheel hop round. He was getting round cleaner and as fast or faster.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 7:59 am
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And Realman is right, no comparison to the rampage. Sure that's fast and steep but the lines are often straight down with runs outs and the riders build them themselves. They need the speed for the stupid jumps and drops too.

The trails in these vids are hiking trails built by mountain goats and marmots...FACT


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 10:56 am
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a month or so back i hiked my bike up onto Risserkogel, the highest mountainin the Tegernseer area (but still only a mere 1800m-ish). the hills around there are very rocky/stony.

one guy took a photo as he said people wouldn't believe him if he said there was a guy with a bike up there. several people told me i was Beschuert, or ****ing stupid, to be carrying my bike up there. some sections were climbing sections where you had to throw the bike up onto a ledge and scramble up after it.

i signed the book at the top with cartoon of me and the Gipfel-cross.

about 50% of what i climbed up was rideable without risking life and limb. maybe those guys in the vid could have ridden more.

it certainly wasn't a place for all out, fast 'n loose riding....

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Posted : 08/10/2010 11:01 am
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interesting stuff


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 11:20 am
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Love that kind of stuff. I'd sort of agree that maybe thay didn't need to do as much hopping as they did, but from practical experience, once you're in that slow/trialsy mindset, you do it pretty instictively. (I'm not suggesting that I'm as good as those guys btw).Its also means you get a chance to look at/think about what's coming if you're riding the trail blind.

Comparing it to the Rampage is not really apples to apples. One is a "groomed" course with on site medical facilities, and ridden by pro riders the other is 3 guys on an isolated mountain goat track with no back up who I presume don't get paid if they're too hurt to work. Both sets of riders worthy of huge respect, but for different reasons.

Me? Given the choice of going to Utah to ride the rampage course/area or going to the Alps to ride those trails, I'd take the Alps every time (and I'm not afraid of a bit of airtime). That's exactly what I love about biking. Hard technical trails in a location where you desperately want to look at the view, but know that if you do, it's gonna hurt. Bring it on. 🙂 Each to their own though!


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 12:06 pm
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Beautifully filmed video and well edited.

Makes me want to go back to the Alps.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 12:12 pm
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Cool videos but as said massively tilted. Some of the stuff clearly can't be [i]that[/i] steep because they are managing to stop on it and edge down it slowly.

The wheel hopping is pretty annoying - and someone calling themselves Fabi-Dude is quite an amazing Euro dude cliche.

Still cool videos though.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 12:25 pm
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Yawn!

Ok Its a pretty vid and there is skillful riding but give me fast flowing singletrack any day. Swoops, jumps, g outs and speed. Using your body to the max.

Not holding on to your brakes as you thump down a slope... bam, bam, bam. Any trail where you have to hold on to the brakes for extended periods gets thumbs down in my books.

Think Fruita, glentress, crested butte, downieville NOT the alps.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 12:28 pm

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