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[Closed] Poss stupid Q - can 1.5 taper work with 1 1/8 headtube?

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As title - seems to be multiple new headset widgets around at the moment. Is it possible to make forks with a tapered steerer tube fit a bike with a headtube designed for standard 1 1/8 forks?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 10:52 am
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depends....... on your frame

Cane creek produce a headset called 44-XX Traditional (do a search on the web loads of articles posted out there...)
(nuke proof are supost to be doing something similar (Brant care to comment?)

these are designed to fit frames which comply to the Zero Stack standard (Giants, some Iron horse frames, new Ragley frames not sure which, + others)

the headset inserts into the 44mm ID headtube and the cub sits outside (traditional style)

Bad news is that there doesn't appear to be any stock of the cane creek headset in the UK until mid Nov not sure about the Nuke proof


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:04 am
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Not unless you got a very big hammer.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:06 am
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It is an iron horse bootleg 3 frame which I think does have the zero stack - that's where the bearings sit direct in the frame yeah?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:07 am
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T1000 is on the money there. It is possible but only on 44mm ID head tubes, not the "standard" 1.125in "34mm ID" one.

We do have Nukeproof product in, though not for sale yet as we've only just got boxes.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:07 am
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Use a bit of PTFE tape instead of a crown race.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:08 am
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kezzab - in that case, you're in luck and it will fit. Though you will end up with an external cup below the headtube which will kick things back about half a degree. This is not always a bad thing 🙂

[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/gallery/article/eurobike-2011-ragley-mountain-bikes-27554?img=10&pn=eurobike-2011-ragley-mountain-bikes&mlc=news%2Farticle%2Fimage ]This image[/url] shows our external 1.125in cup,
[url= ]This pic[/url] shows the 1.5in headset (both cups external).


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:10 am
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Quick hijack, sorry.

From what I've read the Cane Creek headset only works for tapered steerers. Why not full 1.5?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:15 am
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Kezzab,Snap! I'm fitting a taper fork to a IH (Mk III)

just need the headset Cane creek do the headset as a full headset and as a lower only (no idea of costs ...)

Brant when will the Nukeproof V be available + and idea of RRP?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:17 am
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Warpcow, no idea?

maybe you coud buy 2 X 44-XX Traditional (lower assemblies + a 1.5 top cap you might have to trawl through Cane creeks spare parts listings and PDF's.... to make sure that would work)


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:20 am
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I will dicsuss NP headset availability tommorow at the show. I am sure we're nearly ready to go. email me - him@shedfire.com - and I'll keep you in the loop.

1.5in straight through is "quite tight" but does clear. Requires the head tube to be faced flat and lovely otherwise it will bind. Perhaps that's why they're worried.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:23 am
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Brant - ygm. Thanks for info.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:00 pm
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oh hello, does this mean I can fit a taper-steerer fork to my trance? Hmmmmmm

ahah more info here:
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/44mm-head-tube-and-tapered-steerer-fork-ive-taken-the-plung


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:23 pm
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IA if it's got a zero stack headset then yes, should work

read Brant's coments about slackening the head angle


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:29 pm
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Yup, i get all that now. The issue will be internal clearance for the bottom cup to insert fully. Will whip things apart for a look see and some measuring at some point.

Now, anyone interested in some great condition F100 RLs.... ? 🙂


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:31 pm
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Oh that's a point. Our headsets have a 20mm lower cup. And our frames have clearance for that. Not sure everyone's do. But you can always cut them down (and file them).


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:49 pm

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