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'I want for you to be savvier, smarter bike connoisseurs... put yourself in the position of an educated and [u]sophisticated appreciator[/u]'
'...I stopped at every single booth. I took pictures of every bicycle and frame and lugged stem and seat collar. I took notes on cable routing strategies, post finish work on lugs, and yoke construction. I observed how each builder solved the common problems of tire and crank clearance, working around disc brakes on small sizes, and rack and fender mounts. I saw flawless bead after flawless bead. I looked at how paint could interact with different levels of surface finish. Four hours into the first day, I had made it down a single aisle of the convention. My notebook was quickly filling up and I was exhausted…'
[url= http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/02/25/122411/#more-122411 ]http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/02/25/122411/#more-122411[/url]
Puuurrlleeeasee.
😯
Which is followed by:
And I’m certainly not saying you have to take it to the extreme that I did, obsessively documenting every detail.
And they quite nice comment of:
Stop at the new builder tables. I think it’s extra important to see these guys because you never know which one of them will be the next critically acclaimed builder. Aside from that, these new builders are at the beginning of their careers, this may be the first time they are facing the public with their craft. That’s an incredibly brave thing to do.
NAHBS is s showcase of the skill of the hand built bike community. Its all bout bikes built individually by obsessives for obsessives. If you are going to NAHBS it's because you are in to the care and attention lavished on constructing a frame that often a one off. You are going to look at the quality of the lugs and the fine detail, not to glance at a factory mas produced Chinese made carbon frame.
Having seen first hand the attention to detail and hard work that goes in to making Demon Frameworks frames, the hand made lugs and extra details etc it blows my mind still and it is an entirely different kettle of fish to a mass produced frame and demands a whole different showcase and ethos.
If I were to take the first tentative steps into frame building, then I would probably follow a similar approach.
The devil is in the detail.
Actually, I like that. 'Devil Bikes - its in the detail'..
BAGSIE!
The devil is in the detail.Actually, I like that. 'Devil Bikes - its in the detail'..
BAGSIE!
DIABOLUS IN SINGULIS EST. Demon Frameworks motto.
Try again 😛
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Much much more on his intagram: [url= https://www.instagram.com/demon_frameworks/ ]Instagram Demon Frameworks[/url]
Having seen first hand the attention to detail and hard work that goes in to making Demon Frameworks frames, the hand made lugs and extra details etc it blows my mind still and it is an entirely different kettle of fish to a mass produced frame and demands a whole different showcase and ethos.
Lovely bikes, but hand made lugs are complication for the sake of it, lugs work because they're cast, if you're brazing bits of tube together to make lugs, it's just decorative, a brazed (or, gasp, tig'd) joint would be lighter.
Hand finished lugs are a different matter, where the builder buys in plain lugs and does their own decorative cut-outs.
I think hand made bicycles are much bigger in the states than over here. Checkout the new Speedvagen catalogue....the details, and prices, are mega/mental
http://www.thevanillaworkshop.com/2016-road-guidebook
That demon frameworks bloke likes dropping the f-word on his Instagram. Not that it bothers me it's just unusual from a company.
Nice details on his work though.
Actually David, they're not 'too' bad price wise. For a stock frame with Enve fork and headset it works out at around £2.5k. I compared them to Field (which are lovely) and they come out about a grand cheaper. But then you're comparing a stock frameset with something custom. For me I'm fairly generic in shape and can fit a stock frame and would be tempted by their road frame in military green with the 'ghost' graphics..
That demon frameworks bloke likes dropping the f-word on his Instagram. Not that it bothers me it's just unusual from a company.
Nice details on his work though.
Tom who is Demon Frameworks is one of the nicest blokes you will ever meet as well. I don't think he has a corporate bone in his who body however it's his passion and craftsmanship that sells bikes and his iirc) 18-24 month waiting list for a Frame and fork starting at about £2.5-3k suggests that it's working.
18-24 month waiting list for a Frame and fork starting at about £2.5-3k suggests that it's working.
Does it? It could just be he is really slow.
I'll be honest I don't get a whole chunk of the handbuilt thing, bikes are to be ridden, not as jewelry and trinkets.
Those speedvagens are lovely, there was an Urban racer on the radavist a while back that was incredible, albeit the images of riding in nice sunny weather didn't do it any harm! Can't wait to see what comes out of NAHBS this year, usually some stunning stuff.
I thought Speedvagen were the 'budget' brand of Vanilla and not custom.
dragon - MemberI'll be honest I don't get a whole chunk of the handbuilt thing, bikes are to be ridden, not as jewelry and trinkets.
the two are not mutually exclusive
And for the ones that either do mega mega miles, or a very specific kind of miles that's when the small details can make a big difference, doesn't mean those same small details aren't possible on mass produced frames, but the specifics and the combinations might not be, it is truely about getting a bike tailored to both it's rider and it's intended use, the fact that they are often also beautiful is a by product of the energy that goes into them, not necessarily the reason the energy was put in.
I don't really get the OP - are you equally unappreciative of carpenters who create beautiful joints? etc, etc, etc.
It's a craft. One that people appreciate and are willing to pay for.
One of the things that's particularly appealing about the bicycle is that is equally accessible by artists, craftspeople, aerospace engineers, garage tinkerers, bodgers and mass manufacturers.
Long may it continue.
(except car manufacturers - they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them)
He may have stolen my company, but man alive that demo works frame is a thing of beauty
I'm looking at the photo of that headtube above and thinking "that must be a bastard to clean"
I went to the NAHBS yesterday. If you're not into what is on display, don't go. It's like all the good stuff in a trade show without any of the crap. No one is pushing you to buy what you are looking at. You can talk to the builders for a long time, and they won't push you out of the way to make a sale.
I saw dozens of my bike-junkie friends, could have gone to an awesome party afterward but my friends and I were whipped and just headed home.
Anybody found a photo dump/review website yet of the nahbs weekend?
Seen a few showing the winners but not a lot of the rest of the show.
[url= http://theradavist.com ]The Radavist [/url]has quite a few bikes on show.
Charlie - did you get any pics?
I like your description - Trade shows are normally awful. Hopefully the Bespoked show in Bristol manages to keep on the right side of the line.
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