[Closed] Please show me your SRAM XX1 / X01 setups please

Here is my Nomad.
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I swap between a 30t and 34t at the minute.

Very nice rob cheers, how you finding it? all good, ive never ventured over to SRAM so im hoping it will be just as nice shift as the shimano stuff

I've got the X01 on my new FS with a 34T ring up front. I'm on a X0 2x10 on my old FS and Shimano XTR 3x9 on my HT.

I think I've found the X01 lacking a little bit of granny with the 34T up front, and with lots of spare gears at the other end until you get onto a flat out descent. I'll probably put a smaller ring on the front end. I say 'think' cus I'm still getting used to the new bike so I'm giving it some time. Doesn't struggle at all on technical climbs, in fact it's better, but big flat slogs of a certain gradient seem harder but that could be other factors rather than the X01. It coped fine with and rode most of the Snowdon Llanberis up on Sunday. I like the less fuss and gubins of the X01 and the quick fire shifters are really quick and responsive. Like all Sram products though it's just a little temperamental, I'm having to tweak the cable tension and indexing after every ride.

The X0 2x10 has been a nightmare, as has getting new rings and spares for the set up. I converted a 3x10 and in the end had to change everything to get it to work properly. I even had to buy new cranks because Sram had a 6 month delivery on a separate new spider. 3 years of faffing about and fiddling it's taken to get that bastard to work properly. Again temperamental isn't in it, I even had to watch I didn't over tighten the QR because the flex in the frame would mess up the indexing ! Now it all works and has settled down it's great. Shifting is again amazingly quick and accurate. Don't get me started on compatible chain devices though !

For reliability I can't fault the XTR. Never had a blip out of it and the 2 way shifters are great.

Go for the X01 but make sure you get the right front ring up front depending on where most your riding is.

Yes cable tension is very sensitive with 11 speed its bound to be. But i wouldn't go back to anything else now, its brilliantly simple and efficient.
I use my 30t the most.

If you buy it from the germans you save a fortune and XX1 is the same price as X01, only part i have is an X01 shifter as it was £25 cheaper.

I concur with a lot of what excitable1 says, I too have found it a bit of a slog on some climbs and think it's because I'm missing some mid range gears that were available on the 2 x 10. I have to spin a bit more sometimes as I'm looking for a gear ratio that's Btw two available rear ones? I'm running a 32T up front, and that does cover the ratio extremities of my previous 2x10 set up

Not had any problems at all with indexing since the day I set the XX1 up in Feb, lovely and crisp and not lost the chain once.

1 minor 'problem' is due to the X teeth on the chainring and jockey wheels, they do seem to cling onto mud and trail crap more than a normal tooth so I have to employ a toothbrush to get them clean!

I also got my full groupo from Germany and saved ~£200 on UK prices 😉

Best of all worlds... XXXTR1.

XTR m985 rear mech, chain and shifter - 100% reliable
XX1 cranks for light weight
XX cassette

GB

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How is that best of both worlds its still just 10 speed. XX1 cranks aren't even the lightest option.

And you don't have the range of XX1 either. Fail.

with pleasure

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ordered from the uklast week i already had a XO crank so just ordered a ring and it came to just under 600. decided on X01 due to colour scheme tbh as from the reviews there is no real difference in performance but i thought the X01 colours would suit the bike more.

im running a 32 on the front due to me needing a granny ring still and if you work out the ratios a 32 is the closest you can get to a 22/36 2x10 with a 11-34 cassette.

i love it, it was really simple to tune one of the easiest ive ever done imo, the action is fast and clean.

i went out on it last weekend and at no point did i find myself needing more gears, if i was doing an uplift day or a day with less clibing i might go for a 34t on the front, but i never found myself wanting more than the 11/36 before so i expect a 32t will stay.

cheers excitable1 - im sure we conversed via email about white peak rides 😉

to be honest if your riding those rides with a 34t up front i can see it being a struggle dependant on fitness, im already and have been running 1x10 for 2 years with a 32teeth front (always) so ill be sticking with that up front and gaining at the back to make the muddy slogs a little easier, cant say as ill struggle (as i cope with 1x10 with 32 fine, its just made me stronger/faster) with a 32 but if it gets stupidly gloopy ill consider a 30t up front to accompany the 42 out back

im not getting the cranks, im sticking with shimano and running a wolftooth 32 or raceface 32 ring with X01/XX1 the rest, id prefer to keep shimano cranks, as can run my hope bb without any need for adaptors/change!

im getting it at a stonking price so no need for zee germans this time, cant wait to get it, just gotta figure out how to pay for it now :/

so keep the pics coming as i think aesthetically (including the chainset) xx1/x01 is the nicest looking groupset ever, including the dinner plate sized cassette 🙂

Haha - fair enough. I just don't like SRAM shifters and mechs.

What's a lighter BB30 chainset then? One that isn't silly money and doesn't fall apart?

GB

Not mine but my dad's* KHS (a couple of minor changes since this pic was taken too)

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*Not full XX1 but not a bad bike for a 75yr old eh?!

nice not bad eh for a 75 year old, fair play to the old boy for still riding a bike like that!

Bump for the rich evening crowd 🙂

*watches with interest*

To those that have made the switch, do you find that you miss the ability to drop a few ratios that you get by goig from outer to inner on a 2x setup when you hit an unexpected steep bit?

I'm considering the switch too. Currently have an XO crank so I reckon the best way to go is just get a thick/thin chain rings and XO1 shifter, mech and cassette. Should save a fair bit of cash that way

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I love it. Perfect range for me and where I've ridden it so far... Munro bagging in NE Scotland and racing the Trans-Savoie.

Maintenance so far has involved greasing the clutch after it seized, but it was an easy job.

On my 'Thief:

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Made it through a rocky week in the Sierra Nevada mountains with Switchbacks and only dropped the chain once (and that was grounding out on a climb!).

Here's mine

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Pic fail compass

Will try again when I work out how to do it

Hope this works

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That's worked bud, looking good looks proper smart the xx1 stuff

chain on the first nomad looks too long?

ive got 2x XX1 setups,

28t on the Krampus, built this week, one 25 mile ride, made me think about switching the 32t on the Tallboy as i felt like a gazelle on the climbs

its been flawless, I've had the tallboy setup since launch, regarding cable setup, I'm on the original cable, not been touched for a year, only having trouble shifting into the 10t at the moment because i bent the mech hanger,

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chain on the first nomad looks too long?

I thought that too but won't the chain grow (if that's the right expression) when the bike's sat on?

Any twist shifter for 11spd yet?

Currently alternating between 30t and 32t at the front as i am not 100% sure at the moment which is better for my day to day riding.
Currently experiencing some chain issues which may be related to its length, hope to resolve that soon but otherwise impressed with it, and despite living in an area where there are some very seep climbing required I have not really found I missed the granny gear provided by my earlier 2x10 XT setup (which was also very good).
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Have thrown a chain a couple of time so have invested in an MRP AMG top chain guide and BB bash which seems to do a good job on the rocky trails I ride.
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Bought one of those combined bracket mounts just to keep the XT brakes and XX1 shifter nice and neat on the handlebar.
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Happy so far bar a few chain breaks I have experienced which I believe is related to my chain length, though it could be cheaper.

stewart... where did you get that bracket mount? do you have a link?

here's mine btw (i need little encouragement):

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Hi Rob, try this...[url= http://www.jensonusa.com/Problem-Solvers-Mismatch-Adaptors-Right-Hand-Only ]Problem Solver Bracket Mount[/url]

Apart from restricting how you position the levers its a very simple solution and keeps the handlebar clutter free.

cheers man 8)

chain on the first nomad looks too long?

Works fine still a links worth of capacity. Gives the option of a 34t and if it snaps it still plenty long enough.

stewartc - interesting, where is the rocky terrain you have dropped on? ive dropped the chain once on my 1x10 setup (i think my raceface narrow wide ring is starting to wear after 5 months use), and also my clutch mech needed adjusting too, thats ridden pretty hard in the peak district

surprised to see yours has dropped enough to put a guide on, could it possibly be to with your chain length? as you stated you've had issues with it?

i've felt the taughtness' of the xx1 chains when set up right and they seem stiffer and by the eye look like they have less chance of derailing than the shimano 1x setups

lovely looking bike mind!

I was very surprised initially that my XX1 never dropped a chain considering where and how I ride. What might lead to problems with chain droppage is a stiff freewheel... when not running a clutch rear mech this was frequently an issue for me and one reason why I lube my Hope freewheel with oil to make sure it is extremely free-to-freewheel. If your clutch/wide/narrow set up is dropping the chain I would look at the freewheel as a possible cause.

One thing to consider with wide/narrow is that the chainring tends to build up a layer of crud which is best removed... and not having a top chainguide makes cleaning it a much simpler task.

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like i said ive had no issues with a raceface narrow/wide and clutch mech with NO guides at all

i literally dropped the chain once last week, it was coming down some fastish rocky slabs and when i got to the bottom the tension on my clutch mech wasnt as stiff as it was when new, so i adjusted that and its been fine since, also the RF ring is 5 months old too so had a lot of use and wear dropping the chain once in 5 months is pretty good i'd say for where i ride

as messiah says, cleaning the chainring is the key i think after a ride, which i do all the time as the build up of gunk/mud/grit could elevate the chain slightly

the clutch mech on the xx1 stuff and the way the jockey wheels are designed would make me think the xx1 stuff would be better not worse at holding the chain

I was looking for a bash guard for the chainring anyway since some of my trails have a lot of sections were you have to roll over rocks meaning the BB and chainring make contact with planet earth very often so the MRP AMG guide/guard seemed perfect, no dropped chains since so I can assume its doing its job.
Current thoughts about snapping chain links, I have now broken 4 in a few months (riding 15-30km x 2 a week), is the chain length when the the rear suspension is fully compressed is not long enough, going to look at this soon and adjust accordingly to see if that's the case.
I would like to put this down to being a gnarr rider and always taking it to the max, but even I don't believe that!

Despite these little teething problems I don't regret the putting XX1 on my bike, just the price.

I use the chain as a bashguard to protect the teeth

Here's mine 😀

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Still perplexed by the SB66 and chain growth issues, there cant be many things causing it, it should be quite simple to site down and work out. No problems where hammering it down the Beast in the Peaks and rather flat Swinley.

chris thats proper nice!

cant wait to try it out the xx1, very similar to stewartc's yet hes having trouble with snappage of chains, guessing thats whom your referring to?

First ride yesterday - White's Level 2 laps - with XO1 and XO Trail brakes on my TRc - exceptional didn't skip a beat. If anybody has ridden Whyte's you know how muddy it is at the top of the climb but the transmission was flawless - the jockey wheels do collect a lot of crud - due to the size of them. It was a delight riding around with a quiet bike while all my mates with top guides were grinding chains through mud and leaves 🙂

Pic up later and yes I made sure I cleaned everything to make sure the cassette lasts as long as possible!!

ooooohhh look forward to seeing it matt - do make sure you update with a pic later ta

glad to hear its working well!

Specialized Enduro Comp 2013.
Recently upgraded the group set from X0 to X01. Very happy with shifting performance. Better - even - compare to X0.
Chain ring 34t feel a hit too challenging for my daily route. Considering upgrade to 30/32t.

The only original component is the headset. The rest are upgraded.
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Recently had XO1 put on my TRc-anyone find that when on the 10t cog the chain is very close to where the chainstay meets the seatstay?

Specialized Enduro Comp 2013:
Frame Size & Color: M & Gloss Red/Black
* Fork: RockShox Pike RCT3, 160mm
* Shock: CCDB Air CS
* Brakes: SRAM X0
* Crank/Shifter: SRAM X01
* Rear Derailleur: SRAM X01 Type 2 11 Speed
* Stem: Hope FR Stem 50mm 25 deg
* Handlebar: Enve Riser Carbon Bar 740 mm
* Seatpost / Clamp: RockShox Reverb / Hope Bolt
* Saddle: Specialized Toupe Expert Ti Saddle 2014
* Bottom Bracket: Chris King PF30
* Cassette: SRAM XG-1195(10-42)
* Headset: FSA (stock)
* Grips: ODI / Troy Lee Designs Signature Series Lock-On
* Front/Rear Tire: Schwalbe Nobby Nic Evolution Snake Skin 2.25 (tubeless)
* Front/Rear Rim: ZTR Arch EX 26"
* Front/Rear Hub: Hope Pro 2 Evo (40t for Rear) Red
* Front/Rear Skewer: 15mm thru-axle / 142 x 12mm thru-axle
* Front / Rear Rotors: Hope Mono Mini-M4 Saw Disc Brake Rotor 200/180 mm
* Weight: less than 12.5 kg / 27.55 lbs (wo pedal)

Just in case you also have 2013 Enduro and want to upgrade to CCDB Air CS: the part number for the shock that you need is BAD0611. Contact info@canecreek.com - they're very responsive and helpful.

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ooh, i just about fit into this thread now!

Bit of a cross breed all round now, with XX1 at the front, 10spd XT cassette + OneUp 42T dinner plate at the back, with an XTR shadow mech:

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Brilliant so far, nice and quiet, reasonable spread of gearing, and really nice to loose the fiddly front mech and idiotically routed by Lapierre "twice round the houses" cable run to it.

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The fact i've shed 498g off the bike is also nice, although tbth, 100g of that is some new lighter pedals 😉

Since posting my SB66c/XX1 combo 4 months ago now moved to a Pivot Mach6
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Gone from 30t to 28t at the front to help with the steep climbing around where I ride.

christ that lapierre is awful, has the back end been stretched?

Sorry, it's got "retro" sized wheels on it....... 😉

Can anyone recommend a bb30 to work with sram xo1? I'm using the sram bb30 in my Zesty but it's pretty poorly sealed. Thanks

Anyone have clearance issues whilst in the 10t? Chain is really rubbing the frame with my setup

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And if we're doing on scale photos...

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Anyone have clearance issues whilst in the 10t? Chain is really rubbing the frame with my setup

I find the 10t is noisy on the stand (moreso than I expected), but in real life it seems to work fine, certainly no rubbing on the frame, but obviously a more skinny rear end than most of the bikes pictured.

Can anyone recommend a bb30 to work with sram xo1

Do you mean BB30, or PF30? BB30 is just a pair of bearings.

Bought one of these

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com//us/en/sram-bb30-pressfit-30/rp-prod51600

PF30 then. I'd be looking at the Wheels Manufacturing ones which IIRC use Enduro bearings.

Thanks for that, they look ideal

Njee - did you sell the xtr cranks? Cos I is wanting some...

Njee - did you sell the xtr cranks? Cos I is wanting some...

'Fraid so!

that looks great njee - fair play for geting it down to 19.5lb witout silly tyres or drilled out saddles!

Thanks! 2.25" tyres too.

Their SL frame is a pound lighter (to my surprise), would have been silly light then. Be good to get below 19, but there aren't that many places to go without big money!

Picked this up Saturday insurance replacement for my stolen TRc 🙁
Weighs 25.8 lbs and is amazing!!

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Sorry guys will post photo later - can do it now for some reason!!

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There you go.

hmm thats pretty much sexual i'd say 😆

it needs xx1 carbon cranks to finish it off, i think the x01 alloy cranks look a bit bland/naff

Xx1 you say?

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wow tom, just wow!

are they pikes? thought you couldnt get pikes for the solo?

SC really have raised the bar with their latest frames

They're 140mm revs. I've got pikes specced on my incoming nomad (same spec otherwise) 8)

😆 nomad as well as a solo?!? MILLIONAIRE?!?!

congrats though lovely lovely bike!

Monster truck.

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lovely that hobnob, seriously lovely, cant beat stealthy black carbon

Thanks carbonfibreismadebyaliens 🙂

Oscillate Wildly - would have liked the carbon cranks but the black looked much better against the frame in the black/orange/white matching I have got going on there 🙂

I have the pikes on my Solo with and they have been sorted to reduce the travel to 140mm which Jungle are happy with - so does not invalidate the warranty.

So far I am stupidly impressed with the bike - I feel so much faster and the times are quicker to - but could just be new bike excitment!!

The only issue I had was getting the red WTB stickers off the rims - affected the colour scheme way too much 🙂

One thing I have to say - they have had a bit of bad press but the XO Trail brakes are superb - by far the best brakes I have ever had - having had Hope X2, M4, XT and XTR - excellent feel, modulation and power!

To get back to the topic - the XO1 on here is perfect - it is a new bike so it should be - 3 10 mile rides so far and it hasn't skipped a beat but also my XO1 on the TRC got through a winter unscathed and worked flawlessly. I did spec a 32 ring on the TRc and that made the top 2 gears stupidly 'spinny' but a 34 ring on the Solo is perfect and I imagine would be for all bike sizes in general.

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My scalpel, not strictly XX1 apart from he front ring, the rest is a mix of XTR rear mech and XX cassette.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - someone tell me about the fitting of their XX1 / X01 cranks and a PF30 BB (because no-one is answering the thread I started about it)

You know the pre-load adjuster, is it meant to be stuck on the crank axle or will it come off it you pull it?

I belted the bottom of the non-drive side crank into the ground and not much after that got a creak from the BB.

After the ride I noticed the crank was loose.

Following instructions and using correct torque, leaves some side to side play that I believe must be taken up by the preload adjuster.

Seems a heck of a lot of play to take up though and I'm surprised the pre-load adjuster looks so flimsy and is able to slide along the crank axle as opposed to say something like an XTR M970 where the pre-load thing works quite well.

When adjusted to take out the side to side play, the inner threaded part that sits on the crank axle is tight up against the crank arm and the outer that sits on it is tight up against the BB but the adjustment is right on the limit.

I'm not that convinced it's right.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - someone tell me about the fitting of their XX1 / X01 cranks and a PF30 BB (because no-one is answering the thread I started about it)

Here's mine, anyway. Full xx1 apart from the cassette (rather liked the black x0), with gripshift. It's certainly shaved a bit of weight off. My Sync 29er with xx1 reverb and revelations weighs the same as my Soda did with xx, carbon post F120 Terralogics and similarly spec'd wheels.

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Love the Scalpel Mashiehood! How does it ride compared to the 26er Scalpel? Quite a bit more forgiving and "trail feeling" or still "all out race" in feel?

Thanks. I have never ridden a 26er scalpel but the 29er goes like a train. I had a flash 29er before the scalpel and it's just as quick with a little more comfort.

An awful lot of nice bikes here guys! I WAS holding off for the new XTR for my SC, but the pics i've seen it looks like balls, so XX1 it is (probably with Raceface SL 1X cranks)... I'll be sticking with Shimano brakes though 🙄

I will be putting new xtr on the scalpel, not worried about looks, prefer shimano over sram, nothing other than a personal preference.

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Had this for a couple of days now, still getting used to it but loving it so far 🙂

We'll that killed the thread :/

A couple of rides in and I'm loving 1x11, my concerns about the steeper climbs (where I've been locked into the granny ring and the bigger end of the cassette) have been dispatched with ease, without resorting to the supersize 42 AT&T he back.

I'm still in the 'new bike' honeymoon period obviously but so far so good.

Big thanks to Nevis Cycles for sorting the bike and dealing with all my questions 🙂

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