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so disappointed with these tyres. I bought them knowing I’d takr a hit in rolling resistance coming from the P-Zero and Pro ones but got sick of punctures, sometimes 2 or 3 per ride on the pro-ones.
Fitted them at the weekend the maiden voyage today tubeless set up was a breeze but thats the only positive I can give them
OMG - what would be a comfortable 20mph cruise has become a 16-17mph cruise and a 20mph slog. Was expecting it and figured it’d help with the winter training.
but worse still, despite the supposed puncture resistance claims the rear punctured after 28mls on country lanes. And once again the marketing gimmick that is sealant sprayed me, the bike, anything in sight but did nothing to prevent the rapid escaping air.
plug. Again.
what a waste of £100.
so disappointed. Worst season ever for punctures and was hoping for hassle free riding with these. Catastrophic failure on that front.
How odd, I’ve been running mine for the second winter on DT gravel wheels, tubeless setup at 60psi not a single puncture. They are less comfortable and slower than my gp5000, but this winter at least have done about 1200km reliably. This is through Herts and Essex lanes.
Nightmare! I've got some reasonable miles on a set so far, didn't notice any change to rolling resistance but they replaced some stock wire bead Specialized puncture proof things.
Disappointed to hear you punctured, they have a fairly thick tread layer compared to other tyres, why I bought them!
In our house “if you want forgiveness….talk to a priest”!!
Harsh but i have a hard time getting past a let down like this!
i suppose I should chalk it up to bad luck and see how the next ride goes. Bicycle tyres just arent cheap compared to what you pay and the amount of rubber you get in car thres!
I have Hutchinson Challenger TR (the ones that don't need sealant according to marketing but not sure of the point of that as any punctures will always cause the tyre to go flat?)
They did however go on very easy, inflate with a track pump and have held up so far to a lot of flinty gravel rides which are a test for any tyres I have tried over the years.
What psi are you running them at out of interest OP?
@oceanskipper a shade under 60 as i’m fairly well loaded up.
d’you recon pressure is causing issues? My pro-ones I ran a little under max due to being loaded up.
has become habit to run firmer as with skinnier tyres, much less than max psi snd loaded and I’d be clattering the rims in potholes and knackered roads.
Depends on how skinny the tyres and rims are I suppose, 60 on narrow (28 sort of thing) tyres sounds a bit low but not if they’re 30mm. That said I’m no expert and still experimenting myself. One of the roadies at my LBS who commutes in recommended those tyres as extremely good winter tyres hence my interest really. What does a tyre pressure calc say you should be running at…
I have been using these for years now. I use them for commuting, as getting a puncture on a commute is a disaster and I was going over so much broken glass into Manchester that I ended up using Marathons. So a swap to a Cinturato was a huge boost in speed. They are not like race tyres and are hard and uncomfortable on long rides. I've had punctures and they've generally always sealed easily and quickly and kept me going, and they've proved tough considering the glass which is mixed with the gravel surfaces I ride on.
I would say that the quality has declined over the years. The last pair I got were not as good and developed a large split and I've heard other people complaining about Pirelli tyres generally declining in quality and increasing in price. I'm going to have a look what else is available when I need to swap and now I'm not commuting to the office that often.
If I was you though, I would question why are you getting punctures so often, and why is your sealant not working.
million $ questions I just cannot answer. Sealant, i’ve tried every single brand on the market over the years on both mtb and road bikes and never ever had a puncture seal without a plug.
i’m 99% convinced its all hype. Unless i just notice the large slits that are beyond sealant capabilities but on bith bikes the holes are definitely less than 5mm. Might cure over night but deffo not on the ride. Maybe all the thorn holes go unnoticed. I took the Schwalbe’s off and noticed it riddled with little pinpricks of sealant so small stuff i’m possibly getting away with.
Road punctures I think are a feature of the particularly shite roads I commute on. MTB punctures are definitely a rarity but at the moment, every single commute i’m using a plug. Hence getting the pirelli’s. Which dont seem any better!
here in Lancs the council doesnt fix roads they wait till they’re too worn out for the current speed limit then reduce it a level so all 60mph roads are gradually becoming 20mph limits!
All i can say is I’d rather be tubeless as this amount of punctures would be a royal pita to keep sorting tubes. At least the plug is a 2min fix and off again.
What does a tyre pressure calc say you should be running at…
Looks like I’m about bob on with just under 60
That's crazy, I specifically bought them because they have a thicker tread layer, I think something like 3.6mm compared to 2mm on normal tyres (don't quote me, can't remember where I read it but the road.cc review below does mention a thicker tread)
I'd think if you're getting punctures through that tread depth you really need to question what you're riding over!
OR have you got the TLR version?
Road.cc review and comments seem to agree on the puncture proofing AND the slow rolling, although they mention that they seem sensitive to pressure? Maybe why I haven't noticed as I'm running the 26mm and can't really run it much softer than non-tubeless as I'd hit the rim!
https://road.cc/content/review/pirelli-cinturato-velo-tlr-reflective-296967
You can say crazy again. I’m well p’d off. <br /><br />
mainly country lanes riddled with pot holes and broken surfaces. I slalom to work but obviously tractor and death vs pot hole means i do my best to stay alive. <br /><br />
the main area I get punctures is a shared cycle / footpath that gets thorns, glass and other shit washed onto it. Only option to avoid that section is a horrendous 5 junction 10 lane end of motorway monstrosity and dual carriageway so a bit limited. <br /><br />
looking a little closer, last nights puncture is right at the edge of tread / sidewall so no way is there 3mm of tread there. <br /><br />
for that bit of tyre to be on the road would suggest too low pressure or bump induced squash. But if anything at 60psi I’m apparently spot in / slightly above the silca recommended so cant see what i could do. <br /><br />
at this rate i’m going to end up on my MTB’s commuting in as totally sick of road punctures. And yes, they are the tubeless versions.
I would say that the quality has declined over the years. The last pair I got were not as good and developed a large split and I’ve heard other people complaining about Pirelli tyres generally declining in quality and increasing in price. I’m going to have a look what else is available when I need to swap and now I’m not commuting to the office that often.
Interesting. I've been running the same set of these tubeless for a couple of years without issue or puncture and really liked them. I have replaced the rear recently as it started to lose air (unsure if valve, tape or tyre so have also replaced tape and cleaned valve). Whilst the first set went on the rim easily and inflated with a track pump, the new one was really tight and didn't seal first time. When I tried to remove the tyre it was a really bugger to get off due to the tight fit and the sealant, to the point that I'm going to run a tube in it as worried if I get a puncture with sealant on a cold day I'm going to struggle to remove the tyre.
I'll run them with tubes for the rest of the winter, but am tempted to try our something new using tubes in the spring/summer (TLR tyres are a lot more expensive).
I'm just running Vittoria Zaffiro's on two bikes - one folding, one wired. Very happy with them, super cheap, and don't puncture (riding on back roads). Admittedly they are 25c as that's the biggest that fit my steel road bikes. I gave up on Michelin Pro Race - lovely tyres but too thin for most riding I do.
@razorrazoo RRP tubeless plugs are superb. Be a rare occasion you’d need to get the tyre off if you this in your jersey pocket.
Sorry - Dynaplug Rapid Racer.
dyslexia with Rapid Racer Products and this Rapid Racer always gets me. 🤦♂️
Sorry – Dynaplug Rapid Racer
That'll explain why I can't find any! 😂