[Closed] Pippa Middleton writes on cycling in Telegraph

God, I find her annoying.

It's a fluff article, but surprisingly positive about cycling.

What a terrible article! Jonathan Edwards would have been the intelligent choice to write about the day he coached Pippa! She's come across a complete air head.

Was it really cold? Or does Johnathon Edwards like dressing like a gimp?

The general public are more interested in Pippa Middleton than Jonathan Edwards therefore the article is more likely to get read. Plus you would 😆

Do you reckon she really writes it or is it a ghost writer? 😕 No tthe most riveting read either way.

Wiggle must be happy they get the mark of respect from almostroyolatycelebhangerons

What are triple lens sunglasses that commuters intimidate her with?

I def would.
Shite article though. Got the impression she was just humouring the whole cycling thing for the article.
Cycling brigade. Geeks. Lycra dungarees. Intimidated by them rudely acting as if they owned the roads.

Kinda confirms the whole them and us for me. But I still would ..

Seemed an ok article to me, what was so terrible about it?

He was also sporting a pair of neoprene shoe covers to protect his clip-in shoes.

I having been doing it wrong as i thought it was something to with weather when i rode my bull horned bike

Usual dig at the start and it was so lightweight it shall float away to be forgotten

ah, so its clipless that makes you fast, not the skinny tyres

Given the articles media point placement, I am right behind Pippa.

Oh! Pippa! Shite.

She's a life support system for her bum.

Pretty inoffensive weekend filler, a few obvious layman errors but generally positive about cycling. What's the fuss?

their hard-nosed attitude – some can be incredibly rude – and self-belief that they are the rightful rulers...

+1 on that bit!!!!

I too, would position myself right behind Pippa on this, & follow her lead closely.
I'd stay hard on her back end, but I would have to concentrate to avoid coming off unexpectedly.

The article is fine, and it another advocate of cycling 🙂

The more worrying aspect is that JE is wearing a Rapha top. Is there anyone in the celeb / media circus that doesn't feel compelled to go down the Rapha route?

Was expecting better lycra pictures of bottom, am disappoint 🙁

takisawa2 - Member
I too, would position myself right behind Pippa on this, & follow her lead closely.
I'd stay hard on her back end, but I would have to concentrate to avoid coming [s]off[/s] unexpectedly

FTFY

Where do I get myself a clip-in bike? They sound like fun...

any pitchures?

just askin like..

Oh Harry, I just spat Cornish pasty all over my steering wheel.

She has big hands 🙁

Decent little article IMOv and not pompous or contrived. Offers a good bit of insight to any yet-to-be-converted cyclists who happen to have their interest piqued at this time of year.

Don't see anything wrong with it. She cycles. She's explaining to many non-cyclist what you need to do to got on a bike.
You can argue about whether 'celebrities' should write for the Telegraph, but that's something else.

Like it or loathe it, more people will read an article about a subject they don't know if it has a name they do know associated with it.

It was a very positive piece, overall, and probably thanks to a telegraph sub, pretty readable.

So Pip like middle aged, grey haired deaf blokes.

.................hello...........

C

I reckon doing something to demystify enthusiastic cycling is probably a good thing. Not only for drivers but also people are less likely to think of us as a bunch of weirdos with incomprehensible rituals and unnecessary equipment.

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Not too bad an article, but too much advertising in it for my liking. I suppose it beats working in a regular job though.

GO ON, GIE US A KISS!

F OFF U PERVERT!

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The major advantage of clip-in (or “clipless”, their proper and confusing name) bikes, according to Jonathan, is that because the shoe is attached to the pedal you can pull up as well as push down. This makes a huge difference to power and efficiency and goes some way to explaining the warp speed of many urban cyclists.

I'm sure I read an article on research dismissing this.

True story.

rickon - Member
I'm sure I read an article on research dismissing this.

True story.

Got a link by any chance?

I've had the resident STW arseholes enraged by suggesting this in the past.

Good to see that JE is helping to challenge the public perception that cyclists are weirdos though.

Got a link by any chance?

I've had the resident STW arseholes enraged by suggesting this in the past.

I'll have a look, I was actually hoping someone else would find it for me.

The research looked at different atheletes who preferred the 'scrape and pull' and the 'press' technique. (I've made those up, but you get what I mean).

What they found (IIRC) was that it didn't matter what technique you used, because you developed the muscles to work in the way you moved... power output was the same.

I'll have a look - it's not *my* opinion, just what I read in a sport science article.

Although I'm no slower on flats than being clipped in. Now that's scientific proof for you :p

The major advantage of clip-in (or “clipless”, their proper and confusing name) bikes, according to Jonathan, is that because the shoe is attached to the pedal you can pull up as well as push down. This makes a huge difference to power and efficiency and goes some way to explaining the warp speed of many urban cyclists.

I'm sure I read an article on research dismissing this.

True story.

There's loads of studies, you don't really pull up, it's counter intuitive and contracting an already shortened muscle. Main advantage is that it keeps you foot in the optimal place for power production.

Edit: some people with particularly poor pedal strokes do 'pull' through the dead spots, often to compensate for not being able to activate their glutes at all.

Actually a pedalling power cycle analysis shows I do pull up on the pedals ❗

Ever used powercranks? Even if you think you pull up you probably don't

Yep it was a full test, at pedals and cranks, data definitely showed I pulled up on pedals!

I saw her and Kate cycling near their parents house on Thursday last week 🙂

They were wearing Barbours and full make up and were barely puffing despite them scaling a fairly steep hill. They were followed by security in a black Range Rover 🙂

do those tests cover sprinting, do you think?

specifically sprinting up hill, i'd be interested to know if i'm pulling up.. (feels like i am anyway)

i also think technical/slow speed mtb stuff probably includes pulling up

She's got her own website! 😯

[url= http://pippasass.com/ ]http://pippasass.com/[/url]

Whether you pull up or not, will depend on your cadence.
If you're a fast spinner (100+ rpm), then its likely you dont pull up much.
The Late Jason McIntyre did an interview and said that because his cadence was so high, he only concentrated on pushing down.
But, if you're at the other end, a big gear masher, its really hard to move the bike at any speed if you don't pull up too because you have to counteract the forces of the other leg.

When going up a really really steep hill (on or off-road) and you've run out of gears, you have no choice but to pull up if you want to keep going.

Im a big gear masher so push and pull, and I did a test that showed I was more efficient when I was nearing the end of the test/knackered (I started at a higher cadence than was normal for me) because I was pedalling in circles instead of just pushing and pulling.

After reading a lot of the above comments I can't for the life of me understand why more women don't take up riding and why most MTB events seem to be sausage fests. Or how us cyclists have a reputation for being rude, a**eholes on the road.

As someone above said, more people probably read that fairly positive article than the combined readership of ST, Dirt and MBUK because it was Pippa Middleton.

Tom KP

Wow, some people really still say 'I/you would though wouldn't you?' in a non ironic way!? I hadn't realised the world had regressed to a 1994 episode of men behaving badly...

more people probably read that fairly positive article than the combined readership of ST, Dirt and MBUK because it was Pippa Middleton

Fairly positive 😯 it was fluff at best and made as many disparaging remarks as it did positive

I thought it was an OK article, nothing too outlandish and perfect weekend paper fodder.

By far the worst thing about that article was Edwards' attire. Why oh why can't cyclists be depicted as normal people wearing everyday clothing. You don't need 'special' outfits to ride bicycles. Just makes cycling look inaccessible to most people.

What would the Dutch say?

I'll have a look, I was actually hoping someone else would find it for me.

There's at least one article in the journal of sports engineering (or sports engineering journal, or some other re-arangement).

In the study no one measured an upwards force on the pedal under normal conditions, the 'best' still didn't even unweight their back leg. There was a larger difference between runing trainers (thick squichy soles designed to absorb impacts) and cycling shoes, arround 15% IIRC, than cycling shoes to SPD's.

Standing up in a sprint is probably different but I don't think they looked at that.

There was an experiment done with hand cranks to see if the riders went any faster whilst using more muscles, they didn't as power was limited by their cardiovascular systems, so applying that to pulling up on the pedls, there's no point doing more than unweighting the upcoming pedal, using energy to do that, as the pushing down is more efficient.

thisisnotaspoon - Member
...There was an experiment done with hand cranks to see if the riders went any faster whilst using more muscles, they didn't as power was limited by their cardiovascular systems, so applying that to pulling up on the pedls, there's no point doing more than unweighting the upcoming pedal, using energy to do that, as the pushing down is more efficient.

Thanks.

Much as I thought.

I used to strap my feet in the pedals for the benefit of pulling up but realised it was something that I had to remember to do and it seemed of no benefit when I was tired after a few hours on the bike. Probably something a highly trained pro rider does, but most of us aren't in that category.

Funny how Pippa Middleton looks a lot more human in cycling gear.

Its really just a net Zero "Article IMO...

Of course its fluff, Leery blokes who want to see Pippa Middlton in lycra will probably just feel a bit let down (More likely completely put off their stroke by Edwards, Gimp outfitted, Japery)...

"Anti-cyclists" Will read the Negative comments and have their beliefs reinforced, "Pro-cyclists" will Read the positives and choose to hear that message.

Cynics (probably most people reading it TBH) will recognise it for what it is - "Celeb' Endorsed", Ephemeral, filler/click-bait of no real consequence.

...More people have read katies Prices Autobiography...

A good summary of modern British media really: Largely talentless, self serving, morons, command an undue level influence over a large proportion of the population... SHOCKA!

You should see some of the tory-graphs other odd-couple [I]Celeb-****[/I] Articles:

[I]N-Dubz try out fly fishing with Andy Mcnab[/I]

[I]J K Rowling spends a weekend badger culling with 'H' from Steps[/I]

[I]Pete Doherty and Jennifer Saunders attend a pottery class[/I]

[I]Jennie Bond and Shane MacGowan try Hang gliding[/I]

All with Hilarious consequences, Apart from the second one where 'H' shot a homeless person by mistake...

What was the point I was making? Oh yeah, who give a monkeys if you pull up? FFS!

Now go ride your clip-in bicycles!

Ghastly and odious leech she is.

Ghastly and odious leech she is.

Jennie Bond?

Jennie Bond?

Who's she?

Former BBC Royal Correspondent...
Presented the Six O'Clock news for a bit...
Journalist...
Also did [I]"Cash in the attic"[/I]...

She's only been on TV and Radio for the last 25 years or so, quite easy to miss I suppose...

One doesn't show any interest in such crap. 😐

Thanks for informing me though. 😉

Ghastly and odious leech she is.

CG, You mean you didn't watched BBC news at all from 1989-2005ish?

You couldn't miss the woman FFS, I think she's moved on to lightweight daytime toss, and reality crap now, she's probably done "Strictly" or some other such cobblers, but I don't read Closer, and I wander out to the Garage Muttering when it's put on TV, so I wouldn't know about that...

You do know Jill Dando is Dead too, right?

Jan Dil*o as it was said by the secretary of the company I was working at at the time... 😯

EDIT - wondering if that word should be counted as swearing/offensive... self censored just in case. You can probably work it out.

Ghastly and odious leech she is.

how do you know this ?

I have no resentment toward people taking advantage of what opportunity exist for them. You do it all the time. She got "lucky" when her sis married someone famous, that's all.

She got "lucky" when her sis married someone famous, that's all.

she can take some of the credit for keeping her ass in shape...