[Closed] Pinnacle Ramin One

First post on here, looking for some guidance...I recently sold a Scott Aspect 50 which I bought a couple of years ago and never got on with. It always felt like I was leaning too much on my arms and made my neck muscles hurt.

Anyway, I've been looking for something decent quality that is more comfortable to ride and not too expensive (sub £500) and the Ramin One struck me as an interesting option. For the money I have, the forks I would get would be pretty average at best so maybe I'm better going with the Ramin One 2014 for £380, which has fairly decent components and getting a decent suspension fork later.

I was in Evans today but they didn't have any Ramin Ones. I tried another 29er and the guy there was recommending I go with a Medium (my Scott was a Large) since, although I am 181cm tall, I am more leg than body. 🙂 It makes sense - get the bigger pedal-seat distance of the 29er without having to stretch too far forward for the handelbars. The top bar distance on the Medium Ramin One is 585mm, which is identical to the Large Scott Aspect 50.

Anyway, they've ordered me in a Medium 2014 one to try (no Large ones in stock) so we'll see how that goes...

By its a slow burner this thread!

I hear what you're saying but a large would be more normal. That of course means nothing but the alarm bells ding-a-ling a tad when there's only one size in stock and that's the size recommended to you. No large Ramin 2, 3, 4 or 5s available for you to try?

Missed this the first time around.

172cm here, and on a medium Ramin. Also a bit leggy for my height, 31" inside leg (78ish cm?). Here is how it was set up:

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...I would really try a large as well, if you can.

Just thought I'd chuck in my thoughts as I bought a Ramin One on the £400 offer a couple of months back. I got a medium size, I am 5.8 with 29 inside leg. Bike fits like a glove. A previous poster asked about the tyres, and as I only use this bike off road, I found really didn't like them at all, so I swapped them out for Trail King 2.4. Big tyres I know, but I like them. 25 ish psi and the grip and handling are amazing. Brakes excellent, gears change as they should, low enough for climbs on The Monkey Trail / Macc Forest etc. The bars were too wide for me, as I prefer to ride past trees and not hit them, so they were cut down. And I swapped the pedals for an old set of more grippy Wellgos. Oh and it needs lock on grips, the supplied ones move about. Hard bike to fault for the money.

I'm 5'10" or about 178cm and I ride a medium. I never had the luxury of testing the bike first as mine was bought online and shipped to Munich (where I currently live). I swayed between the two sizes but in the end chose the medium which I would say is perfect for me. I’m more body than leg so more stand-over is welcome. As you are that little bit taller, you may be more comfortable on a large. The last I looked there was a pretty detailed geometry/sizing chart on the evans website, that might be of help.

I had the misfortune of breaking my ankle right at the beginning of June, so I missed most of the summer riding this year. I am feeling strong enough again to get back out there, but it’s definitely time to re-evaluate the tyres. I have a set of Nobby Nic’s that I can throw on which will probably be a pretty decent upgrade to the stock tyres, but I always felt the Nobby Nic was more of a front tyre. I might just get something in 2.4 to squish my way around through winter. Those Trail Kings may be worth a look.

In other news, I upgraded the “finishing kit” to lightweight Syncross gear (although the seatpost is still original as I can’t find the right one) and the rear mech, cassette, chain and shifter is now XT. I had the same problem as Metruscan with the bar, so I got a shorter one so that I can actually get down all the trails in the area without the trees on either side ripping the skin from my hands. I also chucked a set of Ergon grips on there for good measure as the stock ones didn’t take long to fall to pieces.

You know, there's only one thing better than a Ramin One...

......is it a Fluro yellow Ramin 5 frame from evans for £109 (£89 to me as I had a £20 off voucher)!

I snapped my on one scandal last year and have been looking for something cheap to replace it. Just bought an XL after reading this thread and looking at your photos Daveh. I'm 6ft 2.

It's will be a 1x10 with 100mm (might reduce to 80mm) forks and a 70mm stem.

It's going to be delivered to my local evans in about a week, can't wait. I love a bargain.

It very nearly was but no, it's a another whole Ramin One. I collect today and will start stripping tonight. Wide bars short stem, carbon fork, hope/crest wheels, 1x10: 38t narrow wide with one up 42t. Looking forward to taking it back for its 6 week service!

And here we are, work in progress but getting there:

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^like 🙂

I have a large ramin 5 frame being delivered to my nearest evans sometime this week. probably won't look as nice as yours when built though!

Your picture is down Daveh, can you post another? I'm dying to get a look at this monster! Will this be a Ramin for off-road riding this time?

In other news: Unseasonably warm weather (in Munich) meant I was riding my Ramin One in shorts and t-shirt on January 10th this year! It's time to start working off that turkey!

Sorry, got myself in a pickle because of exif/GPS type issues. Here's one, but since I'm a tart it'll have red pedals too soon :lol::

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Still commuter biased, but my old blue one has regained off road focus.

For the love of 90’s bright paintjobs! That is a really nice looking ride! No need to excuse yourself, I’d be slapping the red pedals on too!

Is there any major differences between the two frames other than colour?

Don't think so in terms of geometry etc though last year's was triple butted and I believe this year's is only double. Another difference is that last year's XL came with a 31.6 post (27.2 for the other sizes), this year it's 27.2 across all sizes

3 rides on my ramin now. Very impressed the XL is perfect for me ( at 6ft 1 and a bit I usually ride a large). Currently fitted with a salsa rigid fork, but I've got a new on one carbon fork to fit. It climbs like a demon even with 1x10 36 rear cassette. I built it for use as a winter hack bike for grotty Peak District night rides. However, the frame is much better than expected, so it will probably get a lot more use than that!

Daveh, frame is the same. And I suspect that post size difference is a website typo, its always had a 27.2 post.

Hi all i have just ordered a 2015 ramin frame from evans 😀
Will this be the right headset i need for it (straight steerer reba forks)
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/nukeproof-warhead-44iiss-headset-2014/rp-prod85844

Many thanks

Rich

Yep, that's the same headset I fitted to my ramin 5 frame on Sunday 🙂

Great thanks

Rich

And I suspect that post size difference is a website typo, its always had a 27.2 post.

My 2014 XL definitely came with 31.6, whereas my mates M had a shimmed 27.2. You should be able to make it out from the photos on the first page.

Pedals arrived today, but they're pink! Boo. Sending them back.

Here's mine, not as pretty as daveh's but i'm happy with how it turned out 😀

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I'm very tempted!

acidchunks - what tyres are those?

1.75" Schwalbe landcruisers, I really rate them. They roll well and the high volume eats potholes.

I'm very tempted!

I'll just leave this here: 😈

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1.75" Schwalbe landcruisers, I really rate them.

Do you not find them a bit puncture prone? I moved on to Marathons (Supremes) for that reason.

No, quite the opposite. Used the same 26" version for 2 years with zero punctures. Only started getting flats on the narrower 700x35 when I'd completely worn down the center tread. These have punctured once in 6 months but that was a seriously evil shard of glass that I reckon would have taken most tyres out.

I love that the thread for this gem is still alive!

I must say guys, I am very jealous of the paintjob on the 2015 model, it looks brilliant!

I will eventually get a picture of mine up. I think I’ll stick on the new tyres and pedals this weekend – so maybe a picture then.

Daveh – How do you find that On-One fork on the bike? I am still deciding whether to put a carbon fork or a Reba on mine.

Pretty good I reckon. I've had the carbon tubes with aluminium brace and dropouts type fork before and found the compliance poor yet the stiffness was also poor on the brakes (mind you, I am 15+ stone). And that was on a 26er. The monocoques are certainly an improvement in both areas and they're very light! They were down to £104 recently which is a very good price but alas they're back to £150 now. I think the only fault I can pick with them is the wall thickness of the carbon steerer is too thick so getting an expander to fit is difficult.

Has anyone tried one of these in size small? If so how did they find it? Evans list small for 5'4 to 5'7, so should be a good fit for me at 5'5.5 but I have never owned a 29er so was looking for real world feedback.

I know that the medium and large are popular, and I went and sat on a small Ramin 2 yesterday, but haven't riden one. I noticed that the small with front suspension is fitted with forks with 20mm less travel than the meduim and large sizes, but the Ramin One forks appear to be the same across all models. Or am I over thinking this?

Pic of build

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I noticed that the small with front suspension is fitted with forks with 20mm less travel than the meduim and large sizes, but the Ramin One forks appear to be the same across all models. Or am I over thinking this?

Well...NOt a Ramin one, but a five frame built up with pro2 evo/Arch Ex rims, and Revelation RL 130mm forks, plus XT running kit..
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It's replaced my 140mm meta 5 full sus (which never got ridden really!).
This is for playing about on the south down/bike parks/trail centres/all day adventures..

Not had a proper ride on it yet as only finished last night, but went ofr a little spin with the lad.
All I can say so far is that the 'black forks' are like BUTTER!! Uber smooth!
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NIce frame, seeing as it was only £98!!

DrP

80mm works to lower the front end height, it starts to get a bit high for some riders with longer forks and small 29er frames. Drops the BB a tad also. That said it's only 10-12mm of fork height once you're riding and the fork's moving. The rigids are all 470mm long, that's 100mm-corrected and works out ok for front end height on the S size.

Thanks, it sounds like it might be OK for me then. I just sold my old bike today and was hoping to snag a 2014 model, but it looks like they have sold out since I looked yesterday!

[b]Daveh[/b]. Which bung did you use in your on one carbon forks? My Planet X one is too big to go in the steerer!

A Planet X one, but I had to file the *"#% out of it, filed the 'slit cylinder' such that if could close more and filed both 'cones' that act as the wedges. Took ages! There was another Ramin thread recently where someone linked to a bung that supposedly worked.

Better (weekend) pic required but mmmm red pedals:

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Quite expensive this cheap bike!

How come they look to be "currently available" in every size except Small at the morment on Evans website??

Its only January 2015, and you can't get a 2015 bike 🙄

XL went out of stock over Christmas, then came back in over new year. Probably just a blip in supply at this moment.

We've sold out until the next drop. Will check on when they're due in.

... Mid Feb.

This looks like a good deal for someone looking for a size small -

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/ramin-five-2014-29er-mountain-bike-small-soiled--ec106055?country=GB&currency=GBP&gclid=CMex28HppMMCFezKtAodJFYAew&gclsrc=aw.ds

Right that's it, no more mods. Perfect now.

Still original: frame, headset, cranks.

Mods: OnOne carbon fork, Hope Crest wheels, tubless 2.35 Racing Ralph & 2.2 Ikon, 55mm stem, 780mm bars, SLX 10 speed shifter, brakes, clutch mech, OneUp 42t with 16t on SLX cassette with Radr cage, RS Reverb, Bonty carbon railed saddle of some type or other, Answer flats, ESI grips. Think that's it. 😉

Today, with some semi-urban decay:

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Looks amazing Daveh!

I just hit up a MTB flea-market out in Munich and got an Easton XCT 29 Wheelset (tubeless) and a Factory Fox Float fork (never used) all for € 300.

I'm looking forward to fitting it all and seeing how the bike rides with an air fork.

There's a good trade in offer at the moment, so you can trade in pretty much any old bike you have lying around!

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A quick snapshot of my 2014 Pinnacle Ramin One in blue. Current add ons include XT chain, cassette, shifter and derailleur, Syncross saddle, bar and stem and Ergon grips.

It's about to be fitted with a Fox Float and an Easton tubeless wheelset, so here is a shot for posterity.

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Reckon you'll like the differences the wheelset upgrade will bring! 😀

First time poster, but this thread convinced me to get the ramin one, and I felt I had to pass on some appreciation!

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Great bike, I love the simplicity of 1x9, i've not missed the granny gear at all. I miss the big gear about 2% of the time when blasting down a hill on tarmac - a fair trade imo. Not having to worry about cross-chaining or deciding which is the best way to get to a ratio means you can concentrate on having fun, don't think i'll ever go back to 2x or 3x setups unless I start "proper" mountain biking and seem to need it to get up the steep bits.

Rigid works great for me, although I don't generally tackle really rough stuff. The tyres are suspension enough for me and compared to the ramin 4 (which i also test rode) there just seems to be a more direct feel to the bike on the ramin one, even when you lock out the fork on the 4. The tyres roll surprisingly well on tarmac at higher pressures, which probably compromises them on a wet trail, but for me they are the perfect compromise as I do 50% of my riding on tarmac/hard surfaces.

Altus gears shift smoothly, maybe this 'low end' stuff wouldn't shift so well on a 2x or 3x setup (i don't know) but i've no complaints at all. Brakes stop very well, again, maybe I would be blown away by XT brakes (never tried them), but i'm very happy with the stopping power.

Only "mods" i've done to this bike are ripping all the reflectors off and putting on a gel seat cover (pansy). A lot of you guys are saying this bike is a great base for upgrades, but for my uses, it's staying stock! I paid £450 for this bike and with pruhealth insurance I get half of that back too, so for £225 i'm absolutely delighted with it. Thanks to the thread contributors for convincing me.

Great photos!

Great photos!

No shit! What camera you used for those? Look better than you see in a magazine.

Thank you lazyrider - I have pru life insurance, and did not realise the cashback offers at Evans. I was just lining up cycle to work - but that is much better and simpler. I just saved £300 it looks like. 8)

Hmmm. Always liked the look of these. Look great in those shots, lazyrider.

I've been thinking about putting rigid forks on my Inbred for some time, but am wondering if I'd be better just selling it and buying one of these in it's place.

Thanks guys for the compliments on the photos! I'm sort of a photo geek. This was taken with a Fuji X-E1 with the 60mm f2.4 lens - DSLR quality in a smaller size, albeit with a 'point and shoot' slower focusing system.

Yes Matt, the pru health is pretty good for discounts on a few things, it's worth going through the site to see what you can actually get. In the case of Evans you get 50% of the first £500 of a bike if you are new or "bronze" on their site, and then up to 50% on bikes up to £1000 if you are "platinum" - looks pretty hard work to get to platinum though! Be sure you are entitled to the discount first, but you will get at least £250 back if you are. You get the cashback in 4 instalments over 12 months though, just to make sure you don't cut and run!

I'd recommend to anyone to at least test ride a ramin one if it looks like something you might like, to say i'm chuffed with it is an understatement!

I'm a middle aged born-again mountain biker who now rides a Ramin 1. My initial impression of riding a 29er was that you feel perched up high in comparison to a my old 26" wheeled bike. Once you get used to this riding position it's great. Feels like riding a high speed steam roller. I love it !
Will be keeping this do it all bike for along time.

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Just got my Ramin One back from the shop. The tubeless wheelset and big 2.4 tyres make this an absolute tractor. Nimble and fast, but still a tractor. I absolutely love it!

Riding rigid was fun, but my fiends, who are much better riders, were leaving me in the dust. I'm hoping the fork will save me some energy.

Let us know how the upgrades work out! How much of a difference did you notice when you upgraded the drive train stuff to XT by the way? Still running standard brakes?

Ramin One has just been reduced to £375, great deal at that price!
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/ramin-one-2015-mountain-bike-ec071312

Anyone know if the standard fork will take a 29+ tyre - say a Knard on a Dually?

Thanks for that Gibbysrabbit. I've been toying with the idea for a while, but at £375 couldn't resist, I've just placed my order.

Cheez, a B+ 2.8" fits but there's not a lot of room. So I doubt a 3" will fit, if it does it won't be with any useful clearance.

Jamesco whilst you are here..

Will you be selling any of these as frames only? Had some six months back for stupid price. See you have the red and black but it frame and forks im after really.

Then its a toss up for this or wait for the 650b+ you showed last week!

Any more Ramin 6 frames in large knocking about?

HughStew thats exactly the same with me. The cheaper it got the less concerned I got about the colour!

Coomber, the frames we have now are the warranty back-up frames. We end up selling them off cheap which I think is a good sign. The Ramin 1 SS / 29 / B+ will be available as a frame and fork option but not sure when it'll arrive - not too far out but it's not in production just yet.

Clink - none left sorry, all gone online and I guess there will be a minimal cover for warranty stock until new frames arrive.

More Ramins coming? Mother of god...

Well, as they say, you can't keep a good man down. I know I said I was finished but now with a nice set of XFusion Trace:

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Ramin One has just been reduced to £375, great deal at that price!
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/ramin-one-2015-mountain-bike-ec071312

2 months late, but was there a reason for the reduction? Looking at one of these now, and the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is the fact it was £75 cheaper recently, and may well drop again with the 2016 bikes coming out 😐

and may well drop again with the 2016 bikes coming out

Thanks for the info, James.

Hmmm...if the 2016 model isn't going to shove the price down anytime soon. Will hold steady and see if any other random discounts will appear, like they did in July.

Anymore news on the 650b+ bike Jameso?
Deciding between the Charge and this..

Also interested in the 650+, if its single speed it could be the perfect bike to use with my rohloff to make a more fun and comfortable rigid bike

avdave2, it is SS-able via an EBB, would need to check the dropout compatibility with a hoff adapter though.
cokie, it's due early in the new yr, will confirm soon. Looking promising on VFM vs the rest. Proper WTB rims and tyres, all Shimano, etc.

Thanks Jameso. That sounds promising! Timing works well too.
Will there be an Ramin 6 spec bike with 650b+ wheels (Sus forks, 1x11)?!

^ Yes, Iroko 650B top spec is XT 1x11 with Pikes.

Thanks jameso

Quick Q for James.

Are the rims on the 1 tubeless ready?

TLR rims? On a £500 bike? Don't expect much do you ..

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They are, Alex MD21s - just need tape and sealant.

Jameso,

You tease! I'm still pumped from a fantastic session at Cannock at the weekend on my Triggers Broom of a Ramin 4 (Reba RL, SLXed etc) and the bike you describe sounds right up my street....

The Ramin is a fantastic bike but employing the N+1 philosophy, I'm obliged to get yet another wheel size to complicate things.....

Don't expect much do you ..

I am only getting over the disappointment the rims are not carbon 😉

...thanks for the prompt answer, James.

Quick Q. What size rotors does the Ramin One come with?

180F 160R

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