Pinnacle Arkose Three (jameso to the forum please)

@jamesco - will the 2016 1x10 Arkose 2 stay lime green, or will it also be blue like the 2x10 version?
Thanks!

No cable/hose running under the downtube on the new models as far as I can see. That's good. Also seems to be Crud catcher mounts. I like. Hard to mount a crud catcher on my 2015 model.

@jameso: Thanks for clarification. 🙂
I read between the lines, that 1x10 was not THAT sales-burner, right? Oh, if people only knew, how nice that is... 😀

[b]jameso[/b],
What's the axle configuration on the Arkose 3 & 4 - is it through axle on the front & QR rear? TIA!

This year's Four is qr front and rear, so unless it's changing for next year.....

No doubt we'll get forced down the thru axle route but qr is fine for this sort of bike.

Confused by road.cc mentioning a thru-axle on the fork of the 2016 Arkose 4 - [url= http://road.cc/content/tech-news/169034-pinnacle-2016-dolomite-road-bike-joins-disc-brake-revolution ]linky; scrolll down to Arkose bit[/url] - yet picture appears to show QR cap on fork.

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Drlex, it's a maxle, as above. QR rears on all, maxle front on the 4 only.
Nick B, the Arkose 2 1x10 is the same bike, we'll have stock of the 2015 until early next year.

[b]jameso[/b],
Thanks! Noticed your participation on the road.cc comments, but this thread has more traffic. 🙂

Hello

Im hoping someone might be able to shed some light, My friends selling a Arkose 4 in L.
Im 5ft 9 and Im a little worried about sizing, I unfortunately cant test ride is as he doesnt live close and my local Evans only have a M or XL Will a short stem be ok?

Hes selling it cheap as hes emigrating and its a hard one to pass!

Thanks

Sorry perhaps should add I do ride a Rose Xeon CDX in 55cm with the following setup

Top Tube = 540
Stem = 90mm
Handlebar= 42cm

Also for reference hes wanting £500 for it hence me being interested!

^^^^ where is your mate?

Im interested if you decide the size is wrong - which it is 🙂

i would have thought 5'9" would be 'M' territory.

(6'2" and very comfy on an XL)

Been to Evans tried a M and it felt right but they did not have any Large in still only XL.
For price I'm really tempted but..

Lad selling says he's 5ft 9 and it fits him fine but then again he would he leaving for Australia so I don't have much come back if it doesn't fit!!

Does is sound sensible that putting a 60mm maybe 70mm stem on the bike would work?
And if it doesn't my only option is sell and buy the Medium?

Jameso - what is the best selling bike in the range?

I'm really pleased with my Arkose 2 - 10 gears is plenty for the riding I do with it and I love the hydro brakes, which actually was one of the things I liked about it most

I'm 5ft 10 and ride the large. That comes with an 80mm stem, so I wouldn't have thought a 70mm or 60mm stem would affect things too much - but you are right on the size boundary as you say.

I'm just under 5'10" on a large, but I'm long in the body so needed the reach. If I was in proportion for my height if be in definite medium territory.

5'10" and riding a Medium here. Felels pretty good to me but I haven't tried a large. Either would probably be ok with a bit of stem tweaking. There's generally only a cm or two difference in the dimensions.

Buy it, if it doesn't sell you will easily get your money back, probably make a decent profit.

Anyone got an XL 4 they want to sell me for £500? Thought not.

For what it's worth I'm 5ft 8 with a 31in inside leg and my medium Arkose fits great. If anything I'm on the edge of a small but I got a secondhand bargain on one so sizing was a forced choice. Incidentally, has anyone else noticed the head badge is just glued on? Mine started coming off so I just removed the thing, weird decision if you ask me, why not just put a decal there instead?
I was buying a frame off someone recently, he was interested in my Arkose,liked the design but apparently wouldn't consider buying one because it was an Evans in-house brand? Strikes me a bit snobbish. I bloody love it, great bike.

Incidentally, has anyone else noticed the head badge is just glued on?

I wouldn't have thought a 70mm or 60mm stem would affect things too much

Thanks to everyone for replying, Jameso did drop me an email also.
I managed to find a store with a M and L in so took them for a very quick 5 minute ride and I was surprised how well the Large fit me, The medium honestly was the better fit.

I tried the Large and was very surprised how comfy I felt on it, The only issue I found was at reasonable stretch I was slightly short of the hood 10-15mm or so which the stem should sort.
Once moving I was fine, Ive never ridden CX or even Gravel I'm from a MTB only background until earlier this year when I bought my first road bike.
Arkose 4 ticks every box for me I can honestly say i think I should have bought this type of bike rather than the Rose Xeon CDX Di2 Ive got!
I like road riding for fitness and generally feel more rewarding doing a 110mile coast ride in 6:30 hours than the same time in the lakes on the MTB doing 14-15 mile!
Although the MTB rides are always 1000x more better

Also seen another review on Evans for Arkose 2 from someone similiar size than went for large.

"At 5'9" I was between sizes but managed to sit on a couple of arkose bikes (different models though) and decided to get a large then put a shorter stem (70mm) on it.
I've still not quite got my position right, being a mountain biker, but over all all its good. I'm enjoying the turn of speed I'm getting from it, handles well on light off road sections, it's actually even better in mud than the mtb."

Thanks again

FWIW - on my medium I've put a 1cm longer stem on and wider 44cm bars. Still not sure about the stem though. May go back to the standard length.

Sure I could have gone for a large and a shorter stem too but the medium was closest to my existing road bike geometry.

3M tape, pretty standard way to do it. They don't always get pressed on as hard as I'd like them to and if the dirt / water gets in they'll never stick. Sorry. PM me if you want a spare.

Jameso, your a legend. I've hung onto the badge so won't need a spare but thanks anyway 😀
The new Pinnacle Dolomites 2016 with the disc brakes look ace, pretty much the perfect winter trainer, knocks the socks of Kinesis' new disc frames for value - any chance of a frame-set becoming available? (otherwise I may have to buy one!)

any chance of a frame-set becoming available?

They will be, F+F+headset, but it'll be a couple of months before they're in.

Thanks, great news.

2016 range is all on the website now - Arkose 3 looks ace in stealth black, 105 & hydraulic brakes for a grand.

Morning All

I've ordered a 60mm and 70mm headset and see how it goes for me with a large if it doesn't work out I`ll have to sell it and use the money to fund a medium.
What angle/rise is the stem on the Arkose Four as stock?

Cheers

2016 range is all on the website now - Arkose 3 looks ace in stealth black, 105 & hydraulic brakes for a grand.

Just completed my C2W application, I'm hoping to be the happy owner of a black Arkose 3 by the end of Nov.

I do a little off road section, less than 2 miles, on the way to work. It's very bumpy/rattly, I keep losing bolts

Rack bolts, mudguard bolts. I lost a seat bolt, the one that connects the seat to the mount

I now only have 1, grrr. Any idea where I can get another bolt with the right widget to keep it tight? Its an Arkose 2 if that makes a difference

Picked up the bike this morning, Did a quick test ride (10minutes) and it felt pretty good.
Ive ordered two stems (deda zero2 in 60mm and 70mm) so hoping to swap it out with these when they arrive.
Fell in love with the bike and for £500 I couldn't say no!

I have thought I may look to replace the crankset with a 105 5800 170 to better the fit, but I`ll see how it goes.

Now to go for a proper ride 🙂

Im considering changing tires (maybe WTB nano)

Did my first CX race this weekend on my 2014 Arkose 4 - the bike handled it beautifully, the rider less so! Still, says a lot for the bike that I was happy to race it the first time I took it off road.

I was wondering about tubeless too - I'm trying to work out which is the right Stan's kit for the Alex ATD490 rims - anybody know? I'm running Specialized Tracer Pro 2Bliss tyres if that makes any difference.

Just for anyone wondering, P50 SKS Chromplastic mudguards won't fit through the fork with the Nano tyres without some 'Modification'.

I cut the front section off, leaving a tab to be bolted through into the fork, works fine now.

Apologies if this has been done before, but I can't trawl through 15 pages... does anyone know if you can fit a 53-39 chainset, or will it foul the chainstays?

Liking mine so much I'm beginning to wonder if I actually need a seperate summer bike for chaingang.

Jamie's been gone for a year now, wonder if he'll turn up again on 01/01/16.

Do we know if there's an arkose frames et available in 2016 and if so how much?

Worryingly I've just received an email from Evans recalling Arkose bikes purchased late 2014. The reason is the rear mech hanger. Email states the hanger should be replaced and the bike not ridden until it's done. The concern is rear wheel slip.

Yes,I received the email about the mech hanger recall too. I collected the bike last Thursday evening and received the email when I got home that day 🙁

No way I'm driving for 2 hours (round trip) when they can put one in the post.

It's a 'to be sure' replacement. There's some dropouts that haven't been machined properly and when we looked at the possible affects of that in combination with a maybe a looser QR it answered why we'd had rear wheel moving in the dropouts reported, so it's been acted on.

We decided to replace all dropouts because although we can trace frames by batch the dropout inserts aren't supplied or made 1:1 with frames as it's a part that other brands/frames use also.

I don't want to undermine the recommendation not to ride the bike until it's swapped out but for perspective if you've been riding it for a while with no issues it's unlikely there is an issue, just to be clear and confident moving forwards we felt it best to get them all replaced and not to have to make judgement calls on the part detail. Apologies for any inconvenience though.

I considered riding home tonight as I've been riding it regularly for over a year with no problem and daily since September.

But with a son to support I got a lift home.

Rang Evans and it's booked in for Friday.

@jameso

will they post one out for us to fit?

I'm nowhere near to an Evans branch and haven't got time to travel to drop it off and then travel again to collect. Do we just contact our nearest branch to sort this out?

Bumper, I think so, if you're OK to replace yourself I don't see any issues with that. Just call customer care to arrange it. It's a barcoded part and needs to be done as an order so it's recorded/traceable but beyond that no different to swapping out a broken hanger. There's a new bolt set with it that is also to be used to get the best fit.

Cheers @jameso.

I'll call them tomorrow 😉

Have all the emails gone out , as i havent received an email ?

^ what year is your bike?

jameso - Member
^ what year is your bike?

I've had a mail - 2015 Arkose 4

Mrs Dubleyou has not - 2014 Womens (the yellow one).

Does the 2014 need a swap?

Mail's gone out to 2015-16 model customers. 2014s were before the hanger QC point came up, all ok there.

Rang Evans this morning and spoke with Craig (I think), he's raised an order for the replacement hanger and it will be posted out to me.

I'm happy it doesn't have to go into store as my nearest will be a 2/3 hour round trip and its in Kendal, I'm sure they've got other things to worry about at the moment.

@James-O Do you know what is going on with the deliveries of the 2016 Arkose bikes?
I ordered an Arkose 3 back in Mid Nov, for delivery at the end of Nov.
I'm now being told by Evans 18-Dec.
Evans have been good at keeping me informed, but I might have taken the plunge on a reduced MY15 bike if I'd known the delivery was going to keep slipping...

^ We're adding new hangers to bikes as they arrive. The new hangers are here and they're prioritising orders, then free stock for stores. Arkose 3s are in stock so it won't take long to get the new hanger fitted and it to be sent out.

OK cool - am happy with that reasoning - much rather you got it right before I picked it up!
Thanks for your speedy reply.

all ordered through customer services/recall dept. It'll be posted asap, just need to sign a disclaimer email to state that I'm happy to fix it without taking it in to a store.

took 2 minutes to sort out on the phone.

Mine's an Arkose 2, ordered late May 2015. I've not received an email, I take it I'm in scope?

My 2015 Arkose 2 is affected, bought it around March/April this year. It's booked into the Evans near my work

^ We're adding new hangers to bikes as they arrive. The new hangers are here and they're prioritising orders, then free stock for stores. Arkose 3s are in stock so it won't take long to get the new hanger fitted and it to be sent out.

Hmmm. getting a bit miffed now.
I've just phoned the branch to chase up my Arkose (which should have been delivered at the end of Nov) only to be told it'll now not be delivered to the branch until 22/23 Dec, and dependant on if I need it or not, it might not get built up until after Christmas.

Just looking to pull the trigger on a 2015 Singlespeed.

Can anyone tell me if the decals/stickers can be removed? I'm guessing given the paint job they are on top not under the clear coat.

Thanks

Decals look to be under the clear coat on my 2015 Arkose 3...

They're not removable on my 2015 Arkose 4 and that's a matt finish

Quick mud guard question: 50mm Chromoplastics fitted, rear's fine although I'd like to tweak the radius to track the tyre better, think I'll do this by trimming the stays. However, the front is way off in terms of the radius tracking the tyre uniformly since the stays anchor half way up the fork, rather than at the drop-out. I've seen two approaches on here; shorten the stays or bend the stays. I think shortening is neater, but a bend facilitates a more "direct" termination into the stay end fixings.......any experience or thoughts much appreciated.

Kev

Jameso - any idea when/if Evans will stock Arkose frames (SS preferaby)?

Quick mud guard question: 50mm Chromoplastics fitted, rear's fine although I'd like to tweak the radius to track the tyre better, think I'll do this by trimming the stays. However, the front is way off in terms of the radius tracking the tyre uniformly since the stays anchor half way up the fork, rather than at the drop-out. I've seen two approaches on here; shorten the stays or bend the stays. I think shortening is neater, but a bend facilitates a more "direct" termination into the stay end fixings.......any experience or thoughts much appreciated.

I bent *and* shortened mine. They almost always need shortening in my experience.

Jameso - any idea when/if Evans will stock Arkose frames (SS preferaby)?

I've fitted 35mm SKS Chromoplastics to my 2016 Arkose 3.
They are too narrow, but I'd taken them off a bike I'd just sold so they were 'free'
They work well with the 28mm conti Gatorskins currently fitted.

I cut and bent the front stays - they look pretty neat now and the gap between the guard and the tyre is even all the way around both front and rear.

I used a couple of spacers to push the rear guard away from the chain stay bridge and closer to the tyre.

So far they've been OK, no rattling and only a slight creak from the front guard if I stand up and really put the power down.

I'll probably buy a set of 45mm Chromoplastics at some point and swap them over, this will allow me to run a wider tyre.

jameso - Member

If - yes. When - need to check ETAs and update later but they shouldn't be to far off now. SS and geared/std BSA BB Arkose 3 and 4 frame sets.

Nice one. Hopefully in the nice primary colours of the rest of the range, and not the weird snot fleck of old? 🙂

Ha.. Karakoram-cone splatter rather than camo splatter, same as the complete bike.

And while we're on...

my 'new' Arkrose saw it's first cross race on the 28th (Bakewell, muddy as hell), it's an awesome bike. Solid, comfy, capable.

Thanks James.

What's the deal with this hanger QC and delivery delays?

I was thinking about getting a 2015 Arkose 3 as my commuter just died it's final death on the way in. If I order one today am I likely to get it next week or is it going to be months of waiting?

ahwiles, happy to hear it, thanks.

Shackleton, we have spare hangers in now so what it means is that bikes arriving into the warehouse need new hangers fitting as a precaution, easy job for one bike but a big job for a couple of hundred unf, delays booking product on by a few days. If it's a stock bike it'll have been done already.

Ta, so the 2015 Arkose 3 on the evans website would ship without any delay?

If it's showing as 'in stock' rather than with an ETA date I'd say so yes, I know we're not swapping parts at order-pick stage. Just bear in mind I'm not on our stock system now so it's worth a call to check 100% if you needed it for a set date.

jameso - Member
Ha.. Karakoram-cone splatter rather than camo splatter, same as the complete bike.

Really? Damn. That's a shame.Those finishes are a bit of a let down versus the rest of the range.

The 2016 SS is one of the nicest finishes we've done I think. Personal stuff though. Our main man for paint at the factory says it's his favourite bike they've made in his time there : ) But similar to the black Arkose 3 this year and the green last year, whatever we do it can be devisive but better that than the safe 'technical grays' of a few years ago.

SS and Arkose 4 frames eta late Feb due to transport delays. Arkose 2 blue framesets due in a couple of weeks. Another batch of Arkose SS and 4 frames on order soon, one-off colours have been discussed before.

jameso - Member
The 2016 SS is one of the nicest finishes we've done I think. Personal stuff though. Our main man for paint at the factory says it's his favourite bike they've made in his time there : ) But similar to the black Arkose 3 this year and the green last year, whatever we do it can be devisive but better that than the safe 'technical grays' of a few years ago.

SS and Arkose 4 frames eta late Feb due to transport delays. Arkose 2 blue framesets due in a couple of weeks. Another batch of Arkose SS and 4 frames on order soon, one-off colours have been discussed before.

Yeah - you can't please everyone, eh? It's more that I really liek the primary colours on some of the complete bikes, as opposed to disliking the other finishes.

I'll keep an eye on what shows up at Evans, cheers for the info.

It's tempting to think of the strong primary colours as a styling phase and look for what's next at some point, but it's the time of year when next years bike colours are being sorted so opinions are good to hear. I like the strong block colours, feels like part of the brand now.

Hi everyone,
thanks for your great pics of all the Arkoses that have been shown here!
It helped me a lot to choose the right frame and size.

Combined a ´14 Arkose frame with a Planet X fork and I love it!

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Cheers from Germany,
flows

Thought I should join in this thread as I've just bought a 2016 arkose 4 as my winter/wet weather commuter.

I'm sure it's in this thread somewhere but what's the best guards for it - as I know the front mounting bolt is under the fork crown so the bolt needs to go through the guards and bolt upwards.

My current commuter has pdw full metal fenders, anyone fitted these to an arkose? I'd like to reuse if I can as I'll just need to buy new stays. Either that or my previous favorites sks longboards.

Any pics of how people have fitted the front guards - I presume some sort of spacer between fork and crown is needed?

I fitted SKS Bluemmels to mine at the weekend.

Drilled a hole in the guard for the fork crown mount. Could have then bolted it straight on but wanted it to sit a bit closer to the 38c slick tyre I'm running for road use, so used a Presta valve securing nut between the guard and the hole to space it out a couple of mm.

Biggest annoyance was getting the front guard stays to line up with their little receptacles. They're angled to line up with the stays if those were bolted to a conventional eyelet near the axle, but the Arkose has its mountings higher up the fork legs to clear the disc caliper. Bending the stays into an S shape solved that, but it's not quite as rigid as a result. Others may have found a better solution.

Rear went straight on in 10 minutes.

Thanks. The pdw guards should fit better as they have a single stay.