Pedal washers with SLX 12 speed cranks?

I think that's a sram thing... for some reason...

Pedal washers only really required where you have spanner flats on the pedal spindle that face the crank - as Time pedals generally have a round spindle, not really needed. 

Thank you so much.

I find that adding washer help to reduce damage and stops the pedal spindle 'sticking' to the cranks.

Straight in the bin every time.

I find that adding washer help to reduce damage and stops the pedal spindle ‘sticking’ to the cranks

I've had washers, I've had no washers (usually). Never had a stuck pedal. I do grease the threads though

I don't think modern Shimano cranks come with them, some older ones did.

I think I asked this a while back because a set of Octalink cranks (that use a cartridge bb) came with some washers. I was told they were bb washers not for pedals!

10 speed slx used to come with them, or at least the double with bash guard did but my latest 12 speed single ring slx didn't.

I personally prefer to use them as pedals can start to dig into soft alloy crank arms

Once you've had a pedal you can't get off a crank arm you'll always use pedal washers...

I fit them to all of mine after having to cut a pedal out of a mates crank 20 years ago.... A few quid on ebay for a box of 20, why wouldn't you use them? 

why wouldn’t you use them? 

Because in 40+ years of doing my own bike maintenance

 Never had a stuck pedal. I do grease the threads though

I've had stiff ones, never stuck though

Once you’ve had a pedal you can’t get off a crank arm you’ll always use pedal washers

Why would a washer make a difference?  Its the threads that seize from a lack of your favourite assembly lube and over tightening 

Ive never had a stuck pedal on anything i assemble.  Most of the pedals i have had have no washers anyway.  Copaslip for the win.

why wouldn’t you use them?

Because I've built or repaired literally thousands of bikes and I've never had a pedal get stuck, or had to cut one off.

Not one that was caused by the lack of a tiny washer anyway.

Thanks again. I put the pedals on and for the first time of my life checked the recommended torque by both Shimano and Time.

35nm!

That sounds mad.

So I tightened by feel as I have been doing for 35 years with Time Atac pedals.

And then I checked and it was way under 10nm. No chance I am going anywhere near even 10nm, it would be a bugger to take off. I never had a loose pedal. Just luck?

pedals self tighten. I do them up to way under 35nm, never had one come loose. there is no force to loosen themunless the bearings seize. 10 nm sounds about right to me but I don't use a torque wrench.

10 nm sounds about right to me but I don’t use a torque wrench

Likewise, you just get a feel for it.

Apart from the carbon bars I've just fitted, but even using a torque wrench I knew it was thereabouts to where I would have gone anyway, so didn't really need to bother

I honestly don't think ive ever used pedal washers. Nor have I had a stuck pedal, or a pedal coming loose. And I don't own a torque wrench

Bit of lube on the threads, spin them up tight then a nip with spanner or hex. Job jobbled