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Legend , That Is all . Life In the old dog yet.
Amazing ride. So close to the (G)win too!
"We're not worthy, we're not worthy"
Absolutely...
He could shit Troy Brosnan out his arse..
what they said but exclude Troy as a shit... 😉
Is there a World Cup thread here?
Also, could a junior win the grown up elite overall?
After the furore over spoiler threads the last couple of days, is this a genuine mistake or a deliberate attempt to wind folk up?
Em, mistake.
Apologies all.
Not fussed meself, just asking 😉
Could it happen though?
Interesting, and a little bit sad if I'm honest, that this thread silently slipped under the waves. With all the hysteria about the TdF, Round 5 of the UCI MTB World Cup passed by without barely registering on an ostensibly MTB forum 🙁
Not the most exciting course ever, but some hard crashes and the Brits did well!
Congrats to Rach too! The Peaty legend still has a few more seasons to go I reckon, amazing stuff.
Rachel rode a fantastic ride. Floated over the rock garden probably better than anyone.
[url= http://uk.freecaster.tv/mountainbike/1014896/uci-world-cup-2011-dhi-5-windham-usa-replay-men ]Windham UCI DH Men's[/url]
Freecaster coverage from yesterday.
Interesting, and a little bit sad if I'm honest, that this thread silently slipped under the waves. With all the hysteria about the TdF, Round 5 of the UCI MTB World Cup passed by without barely registering on an ostensibly MTB forum[\quote]Agree with this
I watched this on the weekend. Awesome!! Inspiring stuff. The speed he carried into and through the rock garden was unbelievable.
+1 Si & Kit
DH has been so good this year.
I've watched them all this year on Eurosport, Si says some funny things on air like 'South Wales is full of burnt out cars'. Troy Brosnon is a little ripper.
]Interesting, and a little bit sad if I'm honest, that this thread silently slipped under the waves. With all the hysteria about the TdF, Round 5 of the UCI MTB World Cup passed by without barely registering on what USED TO BE an MTB forum
There, corrected that for you . Its all road bikes, fixies and lycra now.
The title was SINGLETRACKworld. it however seems to harbour one or two road riders, shame...
Interesting, and a little bit sad if I'm honest, that this thread silently slipped under the waves. With all the hysteria about the TdF, Round 5 of the UCI MTB World Cup passed by without barely registering on an ostensibly MTB forum
Yeah, but look at this thread vs. the tour threads. However good the DH was this weekend, all there is to say about it is : 'That was good' or 'he was fast'.
TdF generates so much discussion because frankly there's so much to talk about, good and bad, its the perfect armchair/office athlete's sport (and I include myself in that depressing little group).
Plus the DH doesn't get presented to us in a neat little package at beer o'clock every weekday evening 8)
the DH [s]doesn't get[/s] isn't presented to us [s]in a neat little package at beer o'clock every weekday evening [/s] at all, unless you've got some crazy fast internet connection, and stay in on a sunday afternoon
i've got 'broadband' - and i can't watch it.
(Now in HD! - brilliant. how about low-def? - so i can actually watch it?)
And another thing, as you say, the tour highlights last about 45 mins, which is a nice amount to watch.
the Dh worldcup highlights are edited down to about 2 mins, most of which seems to be pit-chat.
Ha, yeah, that as well. Definition of frustration for me is trying to watch [i]anything[/i] on a live stream, little spinny circles of impatience make my blood boil.
Peaty is incredible – he's got 10 years on Gwin, is coming back of a hand injury and still at the top level.
Gwin's amazing too this season. Not sure where he's getting the time from, but it always seem to be right form the start. He must be powering out of the start gate and just getting up to speed a second or two ahead of the other guys. Whatever it is he's doing Minnar and Atherton had better work it out soon or they're going to be runners up.
I find MTBWorldCup.com better than Freecaster, even though it's the freecaster feed...
Re Gwin, it's not the first time someone's come along and spanked the field. By next season if not the end of this one I reckon the gap will have closed significantly, but I bet Tomac is getting a lot of enquiries!
The coverage on Pinkbike is very very good
Lifer, you're right. Sam Hill has never really lived up to what he looked like he was going to be capable of a few seasons back. Still a bloody good rider mind, I'm not slaggin him off.
It'd be interesting to know what the psychology of it all. It's as is someone comes along and starts winning and the rest of the field are so in shock they can't get it together. It's like they expect not to win.
I just think that everything's coming together for Gwin at the right time. The other men are putting together some pretty awesome runs but he has taken it to the next level.
When are the World Championships this year?
TdF generates so much discussion because frankly there's so much to talk about, good and bad, its the perfect armchair/office athlete's sport (and I include myself in that depressing little group).
I think it has more to do with the fact that this site full of roadies.
Singletrack needs to change its name or limit the road based threads. There's plenty of road forums, why can't members talk roadie on those and MTB on here?
Before anyone says it, this is not a "cycling" forum. It's called [i]Singletrack[/i] and it's about MTBing.
I watched the DH last night and whilst I love riding it I came to the conclusion that it doesn't work on TV. It's just not that interesting watching another guy go over the same rock garden over and over again. The drops don't look that big, the speed doesn't look that fast and it is difficult to tell riders from each other, hell, even the crash wasn't that spectacular. It's got no stories or hidden stuff going on, it is a time trial down a hill and for me at least it makes very poor TV.
Singletrack needs to change its name or limit the road based threads. There's plenty of road forums, why can't members talk roadie on those and MTB on here?
Before anyone says it, this is not a "cycling" forum. It's called Singletrack and it's about MTBing.
How about you just dont read the road threads?
Singletrack needs to change its name or limit the road based threads
It really doesn't.
re Gwin:
he's awesome.
he's going to have a massive crash, which will slow him down a bit.
for me at least it makes very poor TV.
I love it, thought I was gonna have a heart attack when Rach came down ahead of the split, and when Peaty took the hot seat couldn't sit still!
A query. Has there ever been a world-class downhiller (i.e. someone who's won at least 1 world cup) whose career wasn't seriously harmed by a big crash?
Nico is the only one who comes to mind?
Why do they all crash so much and so seriously? I've said this a million times but - doesn't happen in skiing
the reason there's a lot of TDF talk is surely cos it's on every day, rather than once a week..
as for working on tv, i think if it wasn't for rob warner on freecaster it would be a lot less entertaining, but as it is - i love it!
Why do they all crash so much and so seriously? I've said this a million times but - doesn't happen in skiing
er, yes it does...
a lot of the mountain biking injuries occur inbetween races - Barel, Atherton (pick one), Fairclough, Hill (knee), etc.
maybe Nico was more restrained/focussed between races? - and that, is a total guess.
he's going to have a massive crash, which will slow him down a bit.
Been thinking that myself, it nearly happened at Fort Bill, but it was just a minor one.
Why do they all crash so much and so seriously? I've said this a million times but - doesn't happen in skiing
No, they never crash -
jhw - yes it does. Plus DH skiing tends be down a nice wide open channel of snow/ice, not over huge sharp rocks & between trees etc.
As for the discussion level, this isn't really a DH forum either is it? And the coverage of the world cup really isn't the best, especially when compared to regular prime time TV programmes.
I love the world cup and love watching it, especially on Freecaster. Unfortunately I tend to catch up a day or two later as the 'live stream' is the most frustrating thing in the world!!
And as for all this "we shouldn't discuss road riding coz we're not roadies"...... 🙄
Edit for the OP - Peaty is indeed a god amongst men 🙂
But it's not like every world class skier has had a season wrecked by injury. Whereas pretty much every world class Dher has.
Is it something to do with the unusually macho image of the sport? Nico wasn't very popular in the media etc. even though he was the best, just because his style was so understated and he never crashed.
Trolling again, a bit...back to the subject...go Peaty!
I watched the DH last night and whilst I love riding it I came to the conclusion that it doesn't work on TV. It's just not that interesting watching another guy go over the same rock garden over and over again. The drops don't look that big, the speed doesn't look that fast and it is difficult to tell riders from each other, hell, even the crash wasn't that spectacular. It's got no stories or hidden stuff going on, it is a time trial down a hill and for me at least it makes very poor TV.
i dont think it makes poor tv, but having exactly the same camera angles for every single rider makes it a bit dull. they need to spice it up with a bit more variety and have some commentators going round the pits etc
as for peaty, well he has shown everyone he still has it! i think he is a fading force, but hopefully can grab another wc before he calls it a day.
i dont know why so few of the pro's wear upper body armour, it makes no sense. granted it is not going to stop crashes from happening, but may make the difference between being out for a month and out for the whole season.
take sam hill. perhaps if he was wearing body armour he might be racing now.....
seems a bike like a fashion thing to me. you see it all the time on pink bike and mtb videos, guys doin rb rampage or jumping a 50 ft gap in a t shirt. bit silly if you ask me.
(edit) they do wear armour, they're just selective about it.
helmet, kneck brace (?), knee-pads.
some of them wear even more.
really?! I always assumed under the shirt they had a full Dainese suit on.
It does look cooler, especially wearing no gloves, but extraordinary to do a WC DH race without protection no?
nah.
i doubt armour would have helped barel, hill, or fairclough.
but a kneck-brace would have helped Dan Atherton.
i dont think it makes poor tv, but having exactly the same camera angles for every single rider makes it a bit dull
The cable cam at Mont St Anne was a nice touch I thought, but I think it depends on the venue as to the number of cameras they have. They could have covered every bit of the track on Sunday if they'd had the same number of cameras they had the week before I reckon.
As for the crashes thing, maybe DH skiers aren't pushing themselves as far as the bikers?
😉
Probably!
Gee, not so swell. What's going on there then?
I watched the DH last night and whilst I love riding it I came to the conclusion that it doesn't work on TV. It's just not that interesting watching another guy go over the same rock garden over and over again. The drops don't look that big, the speed doesn't look that fast and it is difficult to tell riders from each other, hell, even the crash wasn't that spectacular. It's got no stories or hidden stuff going on, it is a time trial down a hill and for me at least it makes very poor TV.
find it the opposite miself.
i doubt armour would have helped barel, hill, or fairclough.but a kneck-brace would have helped Dan Atherton.
Agreed, except Dan would have to have been wearing a full face helmet too - unlikely on dirt jumps.
Personally, I think DH is better than it's ever been - the mix of riders and their different personalities, nationalities, backgrounds and riding styles makes it one of the most interesting sports around, especially with the limits they're taking it to now.
And yes - Peaty is a proper legend; over 15 years at the top, and through so much change and progression in the sport.
I was looking forward to catching up today after recording it on Eurosport only to find some boring fat old guys playing snooker.
Nice one Eurosport (again)
Just after posting my comment above, I found this post which sums up my feelings about Road/TDF vs. Downhill (and 'proper' mountain biking in general) quite succinctly:
"[url= http://spookybikes.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/the-worlds-best-timetrialists/ ]The worlds best timetrialists[/url]"
Unfortunately DH racing these days is mostly fashion and marketing driven. At least the road/tdf/giro etc is actually about who is the fastest!
REALLY?? I have no idea what kit most of the riders wear, I'm probably up on most of their bikes though.
Try telling Gwin/Peat/Hart and, well, all of them that it's not about who is the fastest! What a weird thing to say...
Yeah Dh was sooooo worried about going faster that they banned skin suits, which make you faster ❗ See marketing and fashion driven!
Didn't say I agreed with that, nor did many riders, but I think you'll find they are all in it to win, not look kool and 'moto' (whatever that is).
Piss poor management by the UCI doesn't make the whole sport less valid than any other time based cyling event...
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nice trolling, Doc
Thought skin suits were banned so riders could wear body armour without a disadvantage. That way crashes would cause less injury. Course, it doesn't [i]Make[/i] a rider wear the armour...
Think the same is true of border/ski cross
Often hear that skin suits are faster for DH but is there any actual evidence for this (like extended trials)? The only thing I see quoted as proof is that Mosely beat Atherton by 4 seconds 'because she was wearing a skin suit'. But Mosely has beaten her by 4 seconds without the 'help' of skins suit on other occasions..?