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Just when the lines looked as if they were already completely blurred they've invented yet another category. Apparently their new Wild finder offering is a Grountain bike !
It had to happen I suppose, at some point some smart arse in marketing would combine gravel and mountain .Even offered a flat bar version just don't call that a hardtail 🤔
Geo figures are identical to my 2012 HT ?
Don't know how to do the linky I'm sure someone on here can .
Looks quite similar to a 2016 Cube bike that I played around with, mine didn't cost £4k though
I would ride that.
I don’t like the idea of it carrying me off the map. How would I get home?
I was doing Mountain Cross in 2012.
It was excellent in the mud.
I do think Pashley are developing a nice range of off road bikes with some really nice frame details. I hope it works out for them
Looks nice, possibly a good replacement with a few modern touches for an old steel swift frame I have that rides lovely and looks very similar.
I don't care about any of this but I heard they're releasing a new 26mhz and I can't wait to see it.
I work a few minutes walk from Pashleys.
Sorry, that's all I got.
I quite like Pashley's new bikes, especially the prospero and pathfinder. This is just a drop bar MTB/adventure bike, much like a cotic cascade, and close to a genesis vagabond. Not the first in its category. I'm sure it'll be decent enough, it's another MTB tyre drop bar bike. Not for me as there are better tools for the job, but hope they do well.
That's very, very similar to a Cotic Cascade - as in, within a few mm and tenths of a degree in most measurements comparing size XLs. Nothing new other than marketing bollocks.
Ma names Guy Kesteven. I've been a professional bike tester for....etc.
Yeah, nothing new but I like that companies are doing these bikes, saves the terminally lazy like me having to bodge them together ourselves (I'm riding my Trek Superfly on gravel more and more, probably the same sort of steeper-than-today geometry. All I miss on it is the drop bars, the 800mm wide flat bars don't really serve much purpose on the stuff I'm riding other than getting uncomfortable after a few hours (but that's a different thread which has already been done dozens of times 😎 ).
What I don't like with 'go anywhere, bike-packing, take you off the map' type bikes like this is the insistence on running 1x gearing! I've just had the same argument elsewhere and it got needlessly geeky but I don't see any valid argument for 1x on these bikes except PERHAPS tyre clearance (MTBs used to manage find with 2x and bigger tyres?). I don't even buy the maintenance argument, last time a front derailleur failed me it was a snapped cable on my road bike 15 years ago. Arguably the risk of smashing a heowge 1x rear mech offsets any reduction in risk by removing a front mech.
My Superfly is now my 'go anywhere, big days out' bike and guess what, I've fitted a 2x chainset and it's brilliant, I've used all the gears and still want more! 😆
I don't care about any of this but I heard they're releasing a new 26mhz and I can't wait to see it.
Same (not caring), but is that the same Pashley? I'm not up on the history, as trials didn't interest me in the slightest back then.
Definitely the same Pashley. They even made BMX frames for a while.
I am currently lusting after this. Pretty decent weight too (not that it really matter for steel, but still).
Before gravel it would just have been mostercross
Genesis Vagabond, Various Salsa's and Surly, Singular Gryphon.
I am currently lusting after this. Pretty decent weight too (not that it really matter for steel, but still).
I agree, and I'm even more jealous as I know the person who won the ITV TDF competition!
I'm not sure how it is possible to do a steel road frame right or wrong but sometimes they just look really right.
It's nice enough looking for that sort of bike (and as mentioned there are a few similar ones around from Cotic and Brother Cycles, Pace etc in reality) but what I struggle with is when steel frames at the premium end of the market have a straight 44mm Headtube. There's something about it for me that jars a bit with otherwise slinky steel tubing on this sort of bike and smacks of cost saving a bit too much.
I don't feel the same when it comes to 'proper' hardtails as they normally have a beefy suspension fork fitted so it all 'works' a bit better but particularly that roadbike Pashley above looks awkward when you have the rest of the tubes so skinny. Probably just me being odd though!
Yep, same one. Post office bikes and trials bikes.
makes sense 😆
That's very, very similar to a Cotic Cascade
Possibly, I was under the impression that Pashley made their frames in the UK, not sure if Cotic does now?
Didn't On-One do something similar about 20 years ago for £500?
Possibly, I was under the impression that Pashley made their frames in the UK, not sure if Cotic does now?
Some are (IIRC their FSers?), but not the Cascade - production moved from Taiwan to Portugal earlier this year.
I refer the op to
RE: Pashley have really jumped rebranded the same old shark
FTFY
Nothing new but great to see them doing this . The 3d printed top tube/seat stay junction is a great thing to look at. Everyone says you don't need 2.4 tyres but isn't it great we now have the option to run it if we want to.
Looks great. Other bikes in the category are the Sourdough Purple Haze, Kona sutra ltd, Mason iso. The full list is here. There are plenty of options
https://bikepacking.com/index/drop-bar-mountain-bikes-29er/
My bike sort of fits the group but the wheels are smaller. My Rambler works well for the rides from my door and the sort of bike packing i do. Would a hard tail be better? Maybe in some places but I’m happy with my choice
I built my Rambler for £2k. Its heavy but a chunk cheaper than what’s on offer here
I refer the op to
Sorry but no. Thats not just some random corporate phrase like ringfencing the unicorn.
Its a real thing.
Sourdough Purple Haze
😂
Looks great. Fair play to smaller players doing more niche bikes.
Apparently their new Wild finder offering is a Grountain bike !
I look forward to their flat bar "Mavel Bike"
I don't care about any of this but I heard they're releasing a new 26mhz and I can't wait to see it.
If that's true I'm very excited. I'd love one of them.
It is not just a mountain bike though? I notice they offer a flat bar, SLX equipped version.
Poor Sam at Singular Cycles must have his head in his hands, surely the Swift did this back in 2006 (flat/drop bar MTB) and the Gryphon from 2008.
I'm needing a Hyntain bike - for when flat bars bring all trails alive...
Sir, are you absolutely certain you don't want a drop bar grybrid?
I don't care about any of this but I heard they're releasing a new 26mhz and I can't wait to see it.
Really? Ace. Had a 26mhz and 3x 24mhz. Great bikes
The frame only page makes it look even more MTBish, a 73mm bb (not sure how they're offering a GRX build) and boost drop outs (but gravelesque flat mount brake mounts).
https://www.pashley.co.uk/products/wildfinder-frameset?variant=55684362633591
Like the look of this. I need to go from 3 to 2 bikes. I have a gravel bike for commuting and pootling and a 100mm HT for light trail stuff. This (like Cotic Cascade) could potentially replace both.
The £8000 steel road bike with a £0.20 chinese seat clamp is hilarious.
what I struggle with is when steel frames at the premium end of the market have a straight 44mm Headtube. There's something about it for me that jars a bit with otherwise slinky steel tubing on this sort of bike and smacks of cost saving a bit too much.
Yea, I said the same on the original 'new Pashley' thread.
It's what put me off the Fairlight Strael, it just looks odd compared to the skinny ovalised top tube.
I wonder if the 44mm tubes are just easier to butt on a lathe so actually end up lighter.
Like the look of this. I need to go from 3 to 2 bikes. I have a gravel bike for commuting and pootling and a 100mm HT for light trail stuff. This (like Cotic Cascade) could potentially replace both.
Give it a go, it might work for you.
I gave up as in the end with my Vagabond as it was just one too many compromises.
To sluggish to keep up with the gravel bikes, too rubbish to keep up with MTB's, too posh to leave locked up at the shops, mudguards are a faff to take on and off. It ended up being my least used bike because whenever a suitable ride came up, it was always still modified (wrong tyres, mudguards on/off) to try and make it less rubbish for the last one.
I'd rather have a fast commuter road bike with 32mm tyres and mudguards (about the limit of what will keep up with real road bikes without being a chore). And an XC bike, because doing gravel on an XC bike is slightly hard on the hands, but doing XC on a gravel bike is just a bit slow and hard work.
I'm with TINAS on these bikes - neither fish nor fowl, one too many compromises. For me it'd be an N+1 bike that I could use for certain routes but I get more riding enjoyment from the combo of gravel-road bike and a technically capable yet light, agile rigid 29er - 2 bikes that have a wider use range for the riding I do and are more at home on that terrain range. 29er tyres and drop bars are a combo that I so rarely (if ever) need together. Still, it can be fun... and bikes shouldn't be logical objective things so as an N+1, maybe.
All that aside I really like what Pashley are making at the moment. For a UK-made 853 frame with the details they have they're good value imo. A Roadfinder could very easily end up in my garage with dynamo lights, guards and 2x12 GRX.
Like the look of this. I need to go from 3 to 2 bikes. I have a gravel bike for commuting and pootling and a 100mm HT for light trail stuff. This (like Cotic Cascade) could potentially replace both.
Give it a go, it might work for you.
Yeah, it's definitely not for everyone but worked well enough for me that I got rid of my hardtail - Cotic BFe Max which TBF I wasn't putting to proper use. Ideal for light trail stuff (more extreme end of the gravel spectrum, I avoid tarmac like Glaswegians avoid soap) and a bit of pootling with the kids. Full length PDW guards permanently fitted covering 29x2.2 RaceKings. And err, yeah it got too posh as a commuter so I spent £300 on a Vitus hybrid. So not really N-1 for me in the end 😀
The fat head tube is only about making a suspension fork an option
The fat head tube is only about making a suspension fork an option
44mm headtube not essential, can have tapered with external cups like the Cascade - more elegant when on a thin-tubed frame IMO.
can have tapered with external cups like the Cascade
Then you'd complain it was even more similar : )
Yes they could use a tapered head tube which of course slows for many coming carbon forks too. For me personally this nothing more elegant about the tapered option
But either way its a bodge for a steel frame with a steel fork. The extra diameter just isn’t needed. There was once a good thread on here about it
can have tapered with external cups like the Cascade
Then you'd complain it was even more similar : )
😀 😆