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[Closed] Organised bike crime in Bristol

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Beware using a single D-lock, as it seems a bike makes such a good lever arm even a reasonably good one (£40 kryptonite) twists off in seconds. This is my trusty do it all bike getting Stolen a few weeks ago:


 
Posted : 21/08/2016 8:46 pm
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Where is that?


 
Posted : 21/08/2016 8:56 pm
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Blimey, where was that? That cctv is dire, couldn't you get the car reg?


 
Posted : 21/08/2016 8:56 pm
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This is St Andrews. Unfortunately the CCTV is awful. The strange thing is they leave something behind. At 3minutes 10 seconds, you see some guys check it out. Unfortunately I don't have video beyond this. The police weren't willing to look at other CCTV to try and get a plate.


 
Posted : 21/08/2016 9:02 pm
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In my experience the police don't generally care much about bike theft. Actually there's plenty of crimes they don't seem to care much about, even when they're being given accurate information about the committal.


 
Posted : 21/08/2016 9:13 pm
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The police weren't willing to look at other CCTV to try and get a plate.

It's pretty disgusting that they wont even look at it. Chances are they will have an idea who the guy is straight away if he's already known to them even with the poor footage.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 12:33 am
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Thats terrible! 😯


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 1:27 am
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I would think that breaking the lock off like that would damage the frame? Amazing the nerve of these scum though, simply parking the car in the middle of the road with the lights on. What with all the opening and closing of doors and car boot, etc.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 4:43 am
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It wasn't even an 'organised' crime though...it was an opportunist theft and not particularly fast with the get-away...didn't even bother riding it round the corner before putting it in the car!

The theft looked quick but why did you chop over 30 seconds of footage covering most of the lock breaking? Poor show from the lock but it didn't break quite as easily as it appears on the first watch.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 5:48 am
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It wasn't even an 'organised' crime though

How do you know that then Columbo?.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 6:01 am
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It wasn't even an 'organised' crime though

How do you know that then Columbo?

No whitewall tyres on the car?


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 7:53 am
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It's a car rather than a van. The organised chappies use vans.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 7:57 am
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Way more likely opportunist theft the way they acted, just scouring the streets for easy targets and certainly no obvious preparation considering it took them ages to get it into the car (which is a poor choice for an organised team).

It's not news worthy that the locks of any kind for bikes arnt worth a penny when they're faced with an organised/opportunist who has tools, which arnt expensive and readily available to sort out any type of lock whether its cable or D.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 8:09 am
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So would this have been prevented by having an additional lock on the bike, to stop it being rotated.

I've always heard that 2 locks should always be used as the potential thief has to have multiple lock breaking capability.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 8:12 am
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Car looks like a Mazda 3... Although that probably doesn't help much if the police aren't interested


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 1:12 pm
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I cant believe a £40 lock would have folded like that. What was the exact model?


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 1:38 pm
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They must have recced that before. I don't see how they could have seen it as the parked vehicle would have obscured it ? Brazen buggers too.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 3:51 pm
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Reckon it's the parcel shelf or a jacket left behind. Looks like the second of the 2 people lifts it with his foot before walking off.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 4:02 pm
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@spooky_b329 - good spot, sorry about that, first time i used youtube editor and i must have messed up splicing pictures in. FWIW, I re-did it with the missing 30s of lock breaking:

@toby1 - Parcel shelf seems like a good suggestion. All I know is that whatever that object is, it wasn't there in the morning. At first I thought it could be this guys Dahon: https://twitter.com/davidjpnorman/status/758921282767290368 which was stolen hours before from the same area.

@oldtalent - It was Kryptonite lock from circa y2k. The exact model has worn off, but i remember it wasn't cheap, but wasn't top of the range either. The steel bar measures 15-16mm. I figure any lock with a similar diameter bar will bend like this one. It seems even easier than using pliers to cut through a cheap cable lock. It is worth pointing out it was the type where the end furthest from the lock isn't actively secured, and kind of hooks into the bar. Seems like a bad design.

@ell_tell - Mazada323 looks like the right shape although the number plate seems a bit high. I also figured it could be an Astra 5 door, Hyundai i3 or BMW 1 series. All have low number plates, 5 spoke wheels as options, and a sizeable rear quarter glass.

@Larry_Lamb - Personally I didn't realise a reasonable D-lock could be broken so easily with no tools. That's part of the reason why I thought it was worth posting this. I agree it's very hard to stop a determined thief.


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 6:44 pm
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It was Kryptonite lock from circa y2k. The exact model has worn off, but i remember it wasn't cheap, but wasn't top of the range either. The steel bar measures 15-16mm. I figure any lock with a similar diameter bar will bend like this one. It seems even easier than using pliers to cut through a cheap cable lock. It is worth pointing out it was the type where the end furthest from the lock isn't actively secured, and kind of hooks into the bar. Seems like a bad design.

Mainly asked the question as I have just brought a kryptonite new york lock that looks and feels like it would tear the fence down & bend the frame if someone tried that. Yes the silver ones only lock at one end and a few years back they could be opened with a bic pen!


 
Posted : 22/08/2016 6:59 pm

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