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Had my Gyro for a year and have got on well with it. Fancy a change of frame thought, but not sure what to consider.

I want to reuse as many parts as possible, so needs to be a 29er designed around a 120mm fork.

Any ideas?


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 6:29 pm
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Mate of mine is raving about the Kona process 111


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 6:31 pm
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[url= http://singletrackmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/orange-release-the-segment/ ]Segment?[/url] 😉
banshee Phantom
salsa Horsethief
whyte t-129 (no frame only option though)

Edit: darn it, too slow 😀


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 6:33 pm
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Ibis Ripley


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 6:36 pm
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Yep, Segment. Oh sorry - its the same thing.


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 7:05 pm
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Santa Cruz Tallboy
Niner Jet 9
Pivot Mach 429
Pyga oneten29


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 7:45 pm
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Yep Pyga oneten is the one I'd recommend...


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 7:49 pm
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Pivot Mach 4 carbon - on the classifieds.


 
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Loving my Phantom. [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/first-banshee-phantom-in-the-wild-new-29er-content ]Thread here[/url].


 
Posted : 15/07/2014 9:15 pm
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That Pivot does look very tempting! Close to me too. Is there much dealer/importer support in the UK?

I like the sound of the Banshee too.

Tallboy had been looked at, but the cost is just crazy. Can't justify it.


 
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Upgrade Bikes Distributer for Pivot Bikes
Also would recommend the Bandit 29er a very capable bike
Only have medium frames available


 
Posted : 16/07/2014 7:26 am
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Based on how well my 160F 140R Spitfire pedals, I suspect the Phantom absolutely flies! The linkage analysis on the KS-link frames explains why, there is loads of anti-squat when you pedal so the bike goes forwards instead of bobbing, even with a very plush shock without the pedalling platform engaged (CCDBa on mine). Monster descender too, with the progressive linkage making it feel longer travel than it is - I've never felt mine bottom out hard despite running 30% sag.

I'm sure the VPP Santa Cruz bikes are good but the kinematics don't make half as much sense - pedal similarly well but the linkage is progressive-regressive which will make the damper much more difficult to tune for plushness without bottoming out. You can reduce the air volume to ramp the spring up but you're not gaining increased compression damping like a progressive linkage would near full travel, so you'd have to run more high speed compression which will compromise it in the middle of the stroke where the linkage feel is stiffest.


 
Posted : 16/07/2014 7:33 am
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Not sure I really follow the comments about the "progressive-regressive" linkage.

I'm enquiring about the Pivot frame though.

Thought about the SB95 but Hobnob pointed out the massive weight of it. SB95C would be an option. But we're into quite a chunk of cash then.

Tallboy Carbon could be an option, but would not be the LT version due to wanting to use my current forks. (Bit of a cliche too being an Audi driver!)

The Niner Jet option needs a bit of investigation too. Anyone ride one?


 
Posted : 17/07/2014 1:58 pm
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SC super light 29er, virtually the same as your Orange, comes with just as many haterz too


 
Posted : 17/07/2014 2:21 pm
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Lots of Camber fans out there and it seems aimed at the same job


 
Posted : 17/07/2014 2:26 pm
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What is it that you don't like about the Gyro? Or, what is it that you'd like the new bike to do better/different?


 
Posted : 17/07/2014 2:27 pm
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The fact it's so similar pretty much discounts it though!

Niner Jet 9 appears to be steeper in it's angles than the Gyro, whilst I don't want to go much slacker, steeper isn't the way I want to go so that's probably out.


 
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Ripley.

Very adaptable bike. Use mine for xc/marathon races as a light build, swap out the fork, pop on a dropper and big tyres and use it for enduro races/trail bashing.


 
Posted : 17/07/2014 4:04 pm
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Northwind, tried a Camber before buying the Gyro and chose the Gyro over it. There's a concept store near me so maybe I'll borrow the demo again.

Roverpig, there's nothing I can mention explicitly that I don't like as such. Climbs ok, goes down ok. It's not the lightest though and now that I'm fully into the 29er element I fancy something new/better!

I should probably demo some of the bikes at Mountain Trax. They have an Ibis Ripley and a Tallboy2 Carbon available.


 
Posted : 17/07/2014 5:36 pm

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