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has anyone got one? im thinking of getting one, the 100cc one mtb duties, like the idea of having the tool inside, and probably the new tyre plugger/plier kit with it

does anyone know if the pump will fit a evoc hip pack at all?

alternatively, the bottle cage mount it comes with, is it very secure? not going to come out on the first rocky descent?


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 10:52 am
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Just from a physics point of view, a bigger pump isn't necessarily going to pump your tyre up faster because it will be harder to pump and you'll therefore be slower.  Inflating a given tyre to a given pressure will take the same amount of work, and with a wider bore pump you'll have to exert more force, and given the non-linear relationship between fatigue and force applied with human muscles it might even take longer.

I know with a tiny pump I can fwap away at three or four pumps per second which I can't do with a bigger one.

I might be able to do an experiment on this.. hmm.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 11:02 am
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molgrips - its not the pump action/volume that massively bothers me, reading the pump review itself is pretty positive, in terms of a hand pump, so im sure it will be more than suffice for my mtb tyres

its more the fact I like the idea of the one up edc tool being inside - with the extras I can stuff in it, so basically the pump acts as a pump but allows every almost every necessity id need in a emergency fix


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 11:06 am
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a bigger pump isn’t necessarily going to pump your tyre up faster

In this case I think it will because the 100cc is longer than the 70cc not fatter so takes longer strokes rather than harder strokes (fnarr).  Not sure I'd want it in a bum bag from the point of view of landing on it but the bottle cage mount is secure and backed up by a rubber band fixing


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 1:49 pm
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and to add, the main advantage of the 100cc is that you can fit the tool and either the extra cannister or a CO2 cart inside.  The 70cc will only fit one.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 1:51 pm
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I have a micro pump that's small bore - much easier to handle.  But that's not what the thread's about so I'll back out 🙂


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 1:55 pm
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molgrips - least you had some input - this place is like a ghost town or folks just simply don't buy anything any more 😥

rubber has it! 100c gets you the extra storage space too, not sure how I feel whacking it on the side of the bike mind, but its a very nifty bit of kit to have all in one place and actually get a really good pump out of it too


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:05 pm
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The frame mount is very secure.

Use it on my hardtail and it's been faultless.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:07 pm
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Some combination of the EDC steerer storage and pump gives the possibility of packless riding with a water bottle and pump on the bottle mount, haven't working out what the best combination is though! I do fancy getting the EDC steerer tool though, seems a really well designed solution.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:11 pm
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The pump does feel good quality and I've had it for nearly a year but in all that time I haven't even tested that it works.  I really should try pumping a tyre up with it in the shed rather than the first test being miles from home in the dark on a wet night.

I strap mine to the bike with a tube between the pump and frame.  Makes it easy to swap between bikes.  I'd expect it to fit in an Evoc pack but can't confirm as I don't have one.  Measurements are on the One-Up site though


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:16 pm
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molgrips - in general, bigger bore pumps (and longer strokes) are a benefit for shifting air quickly - not necessarily efficiently. Getting a high throughput for a short burst can be important when re-inflating tubeless tyres.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:16 pm
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haven’t working out what the best combination is

If you have the cash to splash I think EDC tool in the headtube along with storage for a tubeless repair etc then a pump with CO2 inside on the frame along with a spare tube somewhere.  It all adds up in cost though and the number of times I need tools or get a flat when out riding must be averaging close to never (I am of course now doomed)


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:20 pm
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rubber - sounds identical to my (how I want) setup ….but like you the outlay is a lot, for (touch wood) never actually needing to use any tools nor pump very often at all (im now doomed also 😥 )

I do need a new mini pump, so that was half the thinking - I don't know if it will look a bit daft strapped to the bottle cage ( though Id put it N/D/S so any pics wouldn't capture it 😥 ) but its a very neat idea, means id get absolutely everything mostly out of my hip pack for night, this making it almost redundant, or extremely light (and the lighter the better in terms of riding)

singlespeedstu - have you mounted the pump on your santa cruz? I read some views - that said the oneup cage mount doesn't fit the SC holes or similar? I also don't want the 100cc pump going below the BB (overhanging) as long as its flush to the frame and not overhanging id be happy with it


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:32 pm
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ps rubber - id be keen to hear how it pumps up a soft mtb to say 30psi and how much effort is required 🙂


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:33 pm
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Some combination of the EDC steerer storage and pump gives the possibility of packless riding with a water bottle and pump on the bottle mount, haven’t working out what the best combination is though! I

Every pump I've ever had came with a bottle mount clip.

Getting a high throughput for a short burst can be important when re-inflating tubeless tyres.

I hadn't even considered that inflating a tubeless tyre with a hand pump would be possible!  That's why  carry a tube.. but if it's possible then it's something impressive.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:36 pm
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I'd never bleedin heard of this pump (have had a Lezyne one since gawd knows when and used it about twice, so no reason to get a new minipump), so anyway, I read this review, and it said:
"In use, it took the 100cc EDC Pump about 130 strokes to inflate a 27.5 x 2.8” Maxxis Rekon from flat to 20 PSI"

This review - long as a review of a pump and tool could be, I reckon! -  http://www.bikepacking.com/gear/oneup-edc-pump-review/


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 2:42 pm
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that's a good review dezb - had not seen that so the pump is indeed pretty powerful as far as mini pumps go

I love the idea of having everything in one place - quick access if needed, and for bigger rides where I use my evoc back pack I can just chuck the pump in there - with everything ready to go or night rides just whack it on the bottle mount

its a steep amount of money though for all of it including the tool pump and the pliers/tyre plug, but I guess you wouldn't really need to buy it all again and needing a new mini pump im a 3rd of the way there already

was holding out for a discount from oneup, they had 20% off at some stage earlier this year, but again I cant see any discounts anywhere in the uk either, with actual stock 😥 🙁

anyone seen any with a bit of dosh off?


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 3:24 pm
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If you have the cash to splash I think EDC tool in the headtube along with storage for a tubeless repair etc then a pump with CO2 inside on the frame along with a spare tube somewhere.  It all adds up in cost though and the number of times I need tools or get a flat when out riding must be averaging close to never (I am of course now doomed)

I'll probably start with the EDC tool in the headtube, all I carry on longer rides at the moment is a multitool, tube, and pump - I really should start carrying chain links and tubeless repair strips. Sods law dictates the one time you rip a 2" gash in your tyre or your stem bolts work loose and you haven't taken the tools/puncture kit will be when you're 30 miles from the nearest civilisation with no phone signal...

I've got an old topeak mini morph pump that must be 10+ years old so when that finally dies I can look at the EDC pump.

Having the pump with the ability to take the tool also means if you're not on your bike (demo, borrowed bike, hire bike etc) you'll still have the tool etc with you.

Oh and 130 strokes at an average of 3 strokes per second is still 45 seconds - I honestly don't think it would be possible to inflate and seat a tubeless tyre with a mini pump! Sounds like it would make for a great challenge type video though 🙂


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 3:46 pm
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I've got the 100cc one and used it once in 'anger' and was pleasantly surprised as to how fast the tire inflated. I was using a tube so trying to set it up tubeless wasn't an issue. The pump also mounts securely.

The pump / tool combination is quite heavy and combined with a big bottle, that's potentially some force going into the bottle cage bosses. Was never an issue with my fillet brazed steel hardtail with a metal bottle cage, but on my current bike with riveted bosses I saw more movement than I'd like, so moved the pump to a separate set of bosses to play safe.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 4:17 pm
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I have just got the 70cc pump and tool, I had thought about putting the tool in the steerer before but ruled it out due to 2 bikes and one that has a carbon steerer. Tested the pump the other day and it works, my tyre deffinitely got harder!

I have modified the storage capsule (Think hacksaw and arildite) so that i can still fit it in the 70cc pump, it is just long enough that it should fit a tubless plug tool and a couple of the worms. I considered the 100cc version but I ride with SWAT bibs and stick the pump in the back pockets and didn't really like how long the 100cc was, hence the 70cc. The frame mount is deffinitely a firm hold, but I am not a fan of putting anything other than a bottle on the frame.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 4:28 pm
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I've got the EDC tool in the head tube with an air cylinder screwed to the bottom of it in stead of the little plastic container.


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 9:12 pm
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A slightly useless review:

I have one  - the 100CC version with a tool and an air canister fitted. Mounted with the bottle cage thing. I've ridden with it a bit - with some rough descents, some (small but usually badly landed) jumps and drops. So far it's been rock solid.

I'd love to give you a run down on the usefulness of the thing but so far I haven't needed it. I really like that with a bottle, this tool and a tube strapped on, I can move down to a small bum bag thingy for wallet, keys and a minimal 1st aid kit (I ride in an area that has a LOT of accidents).


 
Posted : 05/09/2018 11:29 pm
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nice little review - exactly what I wanted to hear ref the drops/jumps and rough descents, that's the one thing that worries me with it, but seems like its spot on

im not sure how long ill keep this bike so don't really want to modify the steerer tube so I think safest bet is the pump strapped to frame with the edc tool kit

birthday coming up so may as well spend it on something actually useful 🙂


 
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