One sided flat pedals with a big hole in the middle

I’ll let you know in a couple of weeks, once the bike is built

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/bike-forum/something-a-little-different/

I was about to mention that Tom Howard has some.

I think they are based on a sound theory and I'd be keen to try them.

My reservation is regarding how well sealed the bearings are. I believe they are oil filled rather than grease filled to allow the pedal to self right. The question is, how well sealed are they and will they survive a UK winter?

Ahh there's already a thread for these.

Might have known you'd have a set 😜 Be good to know how you get on with them! The hole in the middle looks like it will work well to flex the sole of riding shoes for increased grip, not to mention the pins orientated better for feet which splay outward. Look like good design choices to me. My only reservation is how often you end up on the wrong side of the pedal, if that proves to be an issue at all.

I don’t think it will be an issue, mounting them in a crank and spinning that round, the pins always point up, almost like a gimbal

The question is, how well sealed are they and will they survive a UK winter?

 

All the Dev work was done in Calgary, I’m not worried.

I don’t think it will be an issue, mounting them in a crank and spinning that round, the pins always point up, almost like a gimbal

I can see that and just placing your foot on the pedal to ride off I doubt it will be a problem. It's the oh shit moments where something goes wrong and you lose your footing and have to slam your foot back on the pedal fast that worry me. You could argue it shouldn't happen but mountain biking is full of unpredictable events/mishaps that force you into less than ideal circumstances.

I’ve been looking at these as well, saw a pair in the flesh at Bespoked in Manchester a couple of weeks back and had a play with them (off the bike though) and felt good, wanted to sit the right way up whilst I frantically span them. However I didn’t manage to submerge them in a bog, case a double, smack them into a rock and then forget to wash my bike. So my testing wasn’t real world. 
but I do keep hovering over placing an order for the next batch 

They were mine 😉 

I have tiny feet. I genuinely think i might actually get stuck in them 🤣 

There’s a size limit around 8, depending on shoe dimensions etc

Way, way back in time (like the 1950s or maybe earlier) when there was a lot of innovation, and people were trying to come up with solutions for problems that didn't really exist, there was a pendulum pedal with something like a 50mm (2") drop.  The idea was that it would solve the supposed flat spot at top dead centre.  Of course you would need a frame with a 50mm higher bottom bracket so anybody who went to that expense was bound to say it worked.

A bit later, 1970s, Rino Boschetti developed a Sistem Bos drop pedal extension which did the same thing and which met with the same level of success.

I can't see that bearing bore in the pedal staying very round for very long..

But, i assume these have been used and tested extensively so i'm probably worng

I like the idea and trust that the inventor has used suitable bearings. The pedal shell is very strong apparently. 
useful interview here: https://blisterreview.com/podcasts/outlier-mtb-on-product-design-founding-a-company-their-wild-looking-flat-pedals-ep-271

another thread was mentioned. 
searched pendulum searched outlier. No joy

anyone got a link to that thread please. 
I eagerly await Tom’s thoughts 

apparently the surface is 7mm below the axle. And the pedal body is quite thick. I heard 20mm thickest part. 
our regular pedals are maybe 16mm thick. So, 8 mm of pedal below the axle. 

Pendulum is possibly 19mm lower. (If that 20mm thick measurement is right) 

Of course there’s no pins beneath to hook up and the edges are very tapered. 

on the fence. 

Aha

Specification

I like that this on the face of it looks like a "done it before" thing but maybe it's done right this time, always nice to see that. I don't think I could live with what seems like an overall loss of pedal clearance, though, maybe it doesn't work out like that in practice. I love em though, anything that looks this ridiculous but works gets my vote.

Keep us updated @tomhoward I like the different think approach and intrested on the longevity 

@tomhoward - That candy red BTR Gasser is yours then? Quite a rare thing, what with Burf commenting on Pinkbike, he's only sold four (your bike being the fourth I assume) despite the fact the poll showed it being pretty popular. I must say they are pleasing to look at in an industrial design sort of way!

Nah, mine was the blue one. And technically he’s only ‘sold’ 3, as the red one is his 😉 (and is for sale)

But yeah, mines definitely the 4th one 😆 (and isn’t for sale)

I'll be pretty annoyed if these take off. I had pretty much that idea of a "frame only" pedal about 10 - 12 years ago but clearly had no idea about anything.

Tioga did a stub axle pedal back then too.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/Tioga-MT-ZERO-Pedal-Tested-2012.html

Given how much I loathe flat pedals with any stack height I imagine these will pedal really nicely. I hope they cope with exposure to the real (UK conditions) world.

The question is what crank length,  I'd be wanting to switch to 155 or 160.

All the Dev work was done in Calgary, I’m not worried.

I only have a few rides on mine so far.

They don’t feel as different as I thought they might. It’s a nice little improvement in foot stability/connectednes to the pedal. Clipping them in Rick is certainly nicer, with no pins to grab.

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I only have a few rides on mine so far.

They don’t feel as different as I thought they might. It’s a nice little improvement in foot stability/connectednes to the pedal. Clipping them in Rick is certainly nicer, with no pins to grab.

whats your static bb height and crank length please. 

no additional strikes? 

id have thought the claimed swing forward on imacts, dropping hhe feels might be noticeable? 

no issues with putting foot on an inverted pedal? (I hope) 

thx