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130mm 650b full sus to cover everything, including limited bikepacking, XC and MTB Marathon type events, no actual racing though.
Thoughts? I keep thinking I could still do with a 29er hardtail XC bike......
Nope, won't work.
Edit: been there tried to work out how many wheelsets I'd need to still be able to do everything I want and realised it was easier (although maybe not cheaper) to have 3 bikes, in balance I will admit my main concern was missing riding my cx bike, as while it's the most impractical of my bikes, it often leaves the biggest smile on my face.
1 bike and no racing- Id probably go for a Kona Honzo or short travel 29er full suss
What wont work??
The bikepacking would be the hardest bit to fit in out of all that from one bike.
Something like an Anthem with 120 fork would cover the most of it.
I'm not going to say what bike I'm thinking of getting, but it could be regarded as behaving a bit more like a hardtail than a big soft full sus.
100mm xc full sus,preferably 29 might do it?
I am building a 29er ti hardtail with 29 wheels but with the option of swapping out to 650 plus.
Would probably cover most of the above including a bit of xc racing!
Thanks,
Max
Would have to be a Whyte T130.
It's a compromise at everything, but it will do it all.
I've got one and I've done the Scott Marathon 100km, BPW uplifts (inc. blacks) and just finishing off some kit to take it bike packing.
It's all personal preference in the end but for what you describe, if it were me, I'd be going with 29er HT.
Santa Cruz 5010 is ticking those boxes for me, though not done bikepacking and not strictly an MTB marathon but coped with Brecon Beast with ease (and so nice and fast to pedal up, comfy on the rocky downs).
As a do-it-all, it depends on the "all". If you want bike parks, uplifts and bit of downhilling also, then no. But all the above specified I'd say yes. Myself I've got a Nomad as well for that stuff, plus a hard tail spare. So I don't really have one bike, but the 5010 is fast becoming the one main bike I use everywhere. It's even replaced the hard tail as the go to bike for night xc-ish group rides, in that it's fast, light and agile enough to keep up.
And for a biased promote, check out a Bird Aeris 120 too 😉
Would also get a 29 er hardtail if I could only hve one bike
not really sure about a FS for bikepacking tbh but i never look at mine and think to take that instead
Only ever needed one bike.... Steel 29er HT (was rigid for 5) for the last 6 years and just changed to a 650B+ as my only bike, when you only have room for one you kind of make do with what you have, never felt held back at or limited at all.
Cheers, Steve
+1 for Kona Honzo, (29er HT) go for the titanium option if you really want a bike for life. I've got the 2014 Taro which shares pretty much identical geometry, the thing is a riot to ride trails and works well for longer distance and bikepacking events.
+1 29er HT - plenty of end of season sales atm. Use any money saved over equivalent spec/quality full-susser to purchase tyres and bike-packing gubbins 🙂
Tallboy3 if I wasn't racing, could probably still get away with some small regional DH stuff & it would be fine for enduro still.
If it's as good as I hope it is, I might end up selling my Patrol.
I tried this, well sort of, sold my 26er full sus then sold my 29er hardtail then picked up a Camber 29er 2016 model, so far so good. Well until I picked up a 6fattie as my other bike but that's more a play toy.
I'm thinking my Salsa Horsethief could cover a lot of my mountain biking bases, so for your requirements a Spearfish might work.
One bike, no racing..?
Full suss Fatty.
Spearfish would be ideal IMO. I've ridden it on 100mile days, BPW uplifts and out on the roads.... it's all good.
I thought this might be a real "one bike for everything" thread, like I've posted about before (but then, curiously, went from 2 to 3 bikes)! 🙂
Short of something really specialised - e.g. rigid singlespeed, massive travel DH bike etc - I can't see why you couldn't do all MTB'ing on one bike?
One bike for commuting, road riding, family rides and all MTB'ing is a different matter, though!
I'm thinking my Salsa Horsethief could cover a lot of my mountain biking bases, so for your requirements a Spearfish might work.
now ain't that a thing.. i'm currently riding a santa cruz superlight (2007+ style one) 26er running 2.3s (the biggest tyres that will fit) and in my my idle googling about the ideal next bike for me, on paper the horsethief seems pretty much like the one for me. only thing is, i cant decide whether to go 650b or not. My mates who have 29ers keep falling off 😀
tbh as a short arse (5'7) i'm fine with 26, the issues will be component age and spares availability. I also believe if i'm fine with 100m travel now, anything else is a bit extravagant.
I have two bikes, i've never ridden my old HT again..
Would take my Solaris as my only bike if it was for fun use
I do most of my miles commuting (on the road) though so if it was one bike including that as well it would have to be my Arkose
I could lose my rigid bike if I absolutely HAD to, though that gets ridden the most for fun use strangely
Would miss my brompton too!
about to go back to 29 wheels for the winter slop and the local XC winter series.
What advantage will 29 wheels give? I thought the speed gains were marginal, and in winter slop I would have thought that was reduced?
been tempted to do something similar if my swift doesn't sell.... Alfine being used as a commuter might be a bit hard work for me but wouldn't need much maintenance.nedrapier
Cheers, Steve
Fat bike is the answer
You can get some 2nd wheels made up with 29er rims for when you want something a little bit less draggy
[quote=FunkyDunc ].
What advantage will 29 wheels give? I thought the speed gains were marginal, and in winter slop I would have thought that was reduced?
clearance more than anything.
what?
I rolled into work on a different bike again today (Mountain road ride tonight) and got asked how many bikes I had, my first response was good ones or just in total...
As said above, mid travel 29er, I had a Horsethief, it was perfect, good for edge of field bridleway bashing, trips to the Alps, Wales etc. Never felt over or under biked. Even used it for my (admittedly short) commute. I'm really struggling to work out why I sold it! 👿
they're not common on the ground though are they? what horsethief alternatives are there?
i think specialized camber? (also mentioned above), transition bandit? smuggler? (whats yours jambo?) or kona process?
[i]Junkyard -
Would also get a 29er hardtail if I could only have one bike[/i]
Me too. It would be my Yeti Big Top.. or something similar.
I'd probably go with the ~120mm 29er too. A hardtail maybe, but maintenance aside it's not really helping the riding much, short travel trail bikes pedal well enough these days.
It'll go uphill as fast as your legs can propel it, it'll go down just about anything you've got the skill for, just maybe a little slower. Fat/+ bikes aren't really addressing necessities so covering those bases is moot.
Depends where you live and ride though, if you only ever ride the archetypal 'local singletrack' that most of England is blessed with, then a rigid singlespeed is probably all you need. If you live in the Peak then something more forgiving with gears is sensible. If you want to ride everywhere you're going to have more of a problem as no bike will do Fort Bill one day and an XC race the next without some compromises.
[quote=canopy ]they're not common on the ground though are they? what horsethief alternatives are there?
i think specialized camber? (also mentioned above), transition bandit? smuggler? (whats yours jambo?) or kona process?
bandit 29. 120 rear, 140 front. about 30lbs and its not a light build. could shave some off that pretty easily.
Not weighed mine for a while, but its def lighter than most. Weight isn't everything though.
I'm thinking what I'd have as a 'one bike only' is a 120mm all round, single pivot, short-travel full susser.
Short travel 29er fs, not 650b.
Maybe the Kona hei hei?
yeah hei hei trail is 650b
the new marin hawk hill is also a similar format. (650b).. i've had two hawk hills over the last 20 years. great upper-entry level bikes.
not single pivot though.. tbh.. i just want my current bike, with 650b and a 'modern' slacker geo..
I managed fine with an 26" Anthem with 120mm forks for quite a while. I now have a 26" rigid SS, a 27.5" XTC Advanced and a 29" Jeffsy CF Pro. The question is whether you want to only own one bike, and ride what you can on that, or really ride every sort of trail. If the latter, I think the Jeffsy comes really close - the penalty you pay on the climbs (or the flats) for it's downhill capability is surprisingly small, and probably largely down to the tyres anyway. If the former, I think a 2017 27.5 Anthem (which will have a 120mm fork) would be spot on.
I've tried to have one bike a lot of times. Doesn't work for me!
I've got a 130r/140f 29er or B+ trail bike (stumpjumper FSR) and a solaris which I like best with a 100mm fork (and it can also take my B+ wheels).
I've bikepacked on the stumpy but the solaris does it much better (being 5'10" I can't get a decent seatpack on the stumpy, and the solaris is quicker over mixed terrain. I'd be hard pressed to choose between them, I really like them both. It took me a fair while to really enjoy the solaris, but I loved the stumpy the first time I rode it.
also got two road bikes, a race bmx, and a commuter :roll:. And I'm hankering over a new XC bike, but to be honest I can race on the solaris with skinny tyres and a longer stem for only a minor weight penalty.
I think a 2017 27.5 Anthem (which will have a 120mm fork) would be spot on.
It's not my only bike, also have a Prince Albert, but I ride pretty much anything I'm capable of riding on my 650 Anthem with 120mm forks. XC. trail centers, rocky/rooty woods singletrack, even the odd black at BPW.
It's a very capable bike. Though now I'm pushing my limits more I'm thinking about a bit more bike.
There's still a 29in hei hei as well.
Just mentioned it cos it has great geometry for a marathon style bike. And I saw a glowing review for bike packing.
Tempted to say Flare Max, but the weight might be too much for proper marathon / bikepacking work?
Would certainly cover pretty much all other types of riding?
There's still a 29in hei hei as well.Just mentioned it cos it has great geometry for a marathon style bike. And I saw a glowing review for bike packing.
yeah sorry i was trying to clarify that the "Hei hei" is a 29er, the "hei hei trail" is a 650b.
as i think i mentioned, i'm a short arse (5'7) and as mentioned my 29er pals keep falling off i'm thinking 650b. some manfacturers specific 29 for L/XL and 650b for XS/S/M
Cotic Soul 275 has covered my needs. Haven't bike packed, limited frame bag space but for the amount I intend to do it a rucksack would do the job.
I'm a one bike only kind of guy*
From canal path to trail centre to World Cup DH course. From 6hour endurance XC race to Enduro races to DH races. For me a 150/160 trail bike will 'do it all'.
*i do have a road bike, but I just use that to hang my full face lid on 😉
Been trying to do this with some success with my Surly Ogre. I just swap fork and tires based on what I'm riding.
For me a quick ish handling 29r hardtail with rack and mudguard mounts with a choice of rigid (touring type) and 100/120mm sus forks would do 90% of my riding without being an outrageous compromise. What I have now does the rough better than that would but would give me a touring / scenic road / exploring gently off road option that I don't have now.
Problem I have is I never really get rid of bikes... So I could add a bike like that (or a Fargo type thing) but it wouldn't be only. 😆
I made a decision - it was a silly plan.
The plan was to get rid of everything and put all my money/good left over parts onto a Cotic Flare frame, I'm desperate to have one, test rode one up on the Longmynd a bit back now and it felt great, didn't ride heavy, descended really well, looks ace, felt really fun and 'poppy' and I didn't really feel it was holding me back on any terrain compared to any of my current/past bikes.
But, they're £1500 for a frame and shock - that's a lot of money, regardless of whether it's good value in the context of modern mountain biking, and this isn't my only hobby.
So, I'm whittling the collection down to 2.
A couple of months ago I swapped my 26" soul frame for a Zesty - a move I'm happy with - the Soul frame has now been sold.
I also had a genesis fortitude frame and fork in the shed - now sold, just a few days after building it up from the parts bin (well shoe boxes actually) and borrowing the wheels from another bike. I showed a friend a photo of it - he said it looked great, then asked what I was going to do with it - I kept asking myself that question for 2 days after and realised - probably nothing, so it's gone.
Then I have an old CX bike in sort of road guise (37mm slicks & full guards) which I've ridden maybe 10 times in a year. So it's for sale also.
Lastly, I have a Scandal 29er built fairly nicely, 2x10 XT, Thomson, Renthal, Hope/Stans. It's staying.
I think If I'd have gone down the 1 bike route I'd only have wanted another in a few months. I'd really like to have my bikes up together all of the time, not really needing anything doing, and maybe upgrade them a little bit over time.
So, the shed will soon cosist of:
26" Zesty (140mm dual air revs, fox RP23, Hope/Mavic tubeless, remote dropper, 1x10)
29" Scandal (100mm reba, Hope/Stans tubeless, choice of Thomson/crank bros lever dropper, 2x10)
I think they should cover most bases, including a bit of road on the 29er.

