[Closed] On-One Smorgasbord tyres

With a High roller, which is a much flatter, squarer profile tyre, once you fall off the centre tread onto the notorious gap, there's not much grip, but when you rail it over far enough the big grippy side knobs come into play. High Rollers are a bit all or nothing, but if you grab em by the scruff of the neck and really lean the bike into corners, they bite.

So unless you're on a surface with enough inherent grip itself, you kind of just fall off the centre tread onto nothing as the side blocks aren't tall enough.

I'm no fan of the XR4's either. For some reason I find they don't bite very well in softer conditions either, and to be honest they're a bit meh... Quick enough rolling, but not all that good anywhere. Too big maybe, tread pattern would probably work better if they weren't so huge!

Anyway, back to the Smorgasbord - I'll give you a tenner for it, seeing as it's all muddy now. 😀

Anyway, back to the Smorgasbord - I'll give you a tenner for it, seeing as it's all muddy now.

Junky offered £20 posted! 😉

I've far from written it off, it's going on the back of a bike next where I expect it will be better.

Opposite to you though I like High Rollers, and most tyres where there's a feeling of needing to crank them over to get them to bite.

interesting stuff mb.

Ive got a pair of single compound 29er ready to go F&R on the SS (Rigid).
My front rim is 35mm wide and the rear 27mm I think so may get a flatter profile to you. But will also test on the range of rock/hardpack/gravels and loam/mud that we get at this end of the Malverns.

Rusty Spanner...i think the gap in the High Roller design (and others like it) is for mud clearance?....no idea if that was the designers intentions but it works for me.
I rode Rogate recently which is quite sandy, had a Minion on the front which has less of a gap and more tread than a High Roller....all the bloody thing did was clog with sand all morning leading to front end wash outs....went home swapped to a High Roller on the front and no more problems, the widely spaced tread seems to fling more mud/sand away in my experience.

I like the sound of the rounded profile, when we had a better summer than this last year i put some Specialized Captains on for the best few weeks and they were awesome, very fast rolling, great over harder, dry ground and very linear grip through the lean when getting the bike turned....these sound similar.

Stoner, I'll try give it a run in the Wyre Forest this weekend too, see what the terrain down there has to offer it. I think on your 35mm front rim you'll probably get on with the tyre better to be honest. Looking at it again, all it needs IMO is a slightly flatter carcass, and the side knobbles to be about 3-4mm taller on their outside edges. Not huge changes, but would make all the difference I reckon.

brant - Member

Chalky9 is one of the testers for Dirt magazine.

Can't be, he expressed a clear opinion using comprehensible english

Mboy. Could you mail me. Him@shedfire dot com.

Have a new model i'd like your thoughts on.

Rusty, read this re. tyres with a gap between central and side knobs: http://www.leelikesbikes.com/followup-specialized-eskar-tires.html

In short I believe the open channel on the inside of the side knobs allows their inside edges to grip the ground, especially on softer surfaces where they can dig in.

Anyone had any luck running these tubeless yet? Tried them on my Crests (which give them a nice profile) and they dont seem tight enough to me to get a decent seal.

As for not gripping/biting on soft ground, well they seem fine to me (thay have replaced Mud-Xs), certainly the grip on rocks and roots is fantastic, but also lent over they grip well and when they do let go it's all nice and predictable, not sudden and scary.

Nick did you get them to run tubelessly at all on Crests? I'm looking at the 29" version if it'll run on Crests...

£14.99 now

Free postage?

BTW there's some ex mayhem display ones at PX now for £15, plus that postage dont forget 😉

http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/c/q/clearance_corner/mayhem_mud_bath

I fitted mine the other night and got out for a local loop on them.

These replaced some 2.4"RRs (Front) and 2.1"Ignitors (Rear)
Rigid 29er, SS.

Width:
On a 20mm rim, RR = 60mm, ignitors = 52mm and the Smorgasbord = 57mm
On a 30mm rim, RR = 61mm, ignitors = 53mm and the Smorgasbord = 59mm.

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First of all, the ignitors are still my favourite do it all tyre. Hook up brilliantly, plenty of grip at the back when honking the SS, dont break away unexpectedly.

RRs work very well on the front, very fat on the 30mm Gordo rim, and I rarely take them off - maybe only for Stouts if off to wales to bash rocks etc.

My local loop in the current conditions goes something like: tarmac, hardcore/compact stone track/bit of gloop. Then descent on hardpack/gravels, soft loam/squidy bits.

Good things: the Smorg is neither a good nor bad roller on the road. Not as bad as a Stout, not as good as RR or Ignitor. Front didnt let go straight away on off camber root, nor off camber slop, but....

Bad things....it wasnt brilliant. On the rear it's not a great SS tyre on loose or soft ground. Just doesnt seem to deliver the traction as well as the narrower pentagular knobbled ignitor. Twice the rear stepped out unexpectedly: once on a wet rock descent and on a soft off-camber one.

So not an unmitigated success on the varied malvern surfaces. I guess it's probably a tyre borne of hebden/todmorden/northern monkey rocks and steps. But it's too wide and lacking in knobs to dig into the soft stuff (unlike the knobbles on even fatso RRs) at the front, and on all but coarse grit-dressed tarmac it just doesnt get the traction down for SS climbing use Im afraid.

I'll def give it another go on the front if it every gets summeryer around here again. The positive was definitely on hard packed stony/gravelly descents.

Nick did you get them to run tubelessly at all on Crests? I'm looking at the 29" version if it'll run on Crests...

No not gone up yet, but I'm a little more hopeful after seeing Shaggy's response so I'll give them another go when I get the chance.

Just been out on them and it's really really mucky and wet out there, but didn't find them lacking at all, mind you I've just got a gopro hero 2 camera so was trying really hard to keep the (better) rider in front of me in shot and so was pushing things a bit.

EDIT: Best not risk upsetting STW they changed the link for a reason

do we know where shiggy is from?

and I should probably emphasise when I say "gravelly" I mean hardpacked small stone, with larger stone rock, rather than really loose stuff.

EDIT

The positive was definitely on hard packed stony/gravelly descents.

Almost like it was designed for use somewhere dry and dusty ?

you cant hide just like that junky. What am I missing? 😉

Mail me 😉

First post on here and I'm going to extol the virtues of a commercial product. Pinches of salt all round I guess but I'm typing regardless. Sorry for the long post - I guess this is my way of saying hello too.

I'm new to mountain biking having purchased my first real bike in February this year via the cycle to work scheme. 600 miles later and I'm officially hooked on it. So is my 9 year old son and we regularly frequent Whinlatter, Sherwood Pines, Lee Quarry etc. I also like to ride on my own from the house and I'm becoming proficient at OS reading, Google Earth zooming and Bridleways spotting.

Tonight I had my first trip out with a friend and we covered the back 16 miles of the Holme Valley challenge.
I'd decided earlier on in the week that I was going to put new tyres on my bike for this trip as the Kenda Blue Groove that came on my bike were just about worn away.
I hadn't bargained on MTB tyre choices and opinions being so varied though and whilst searching and reading stumbled across this thread.

Brants comment on the price going up due to this thread absolutely made my day (im a halifax boy born and bred) and the subsequent fallout was typical Internet forum gold. I also happened to be in the Rotherham area the next day so it seemed fate had chosen my tyres for me.

So it was, I took a trip to on one this morning, was greeted extremely warmly at the door, listened to in great detail and advised to try the enduro compound on my 120mm full sus Mondraker. I was also advised that some tyres with splashes of mud on them were for sale at 15 quid each. I promptly bought 4 and ran to the car before they changed their mind. I looked pretty hard but couldn't see the mud splashes either.

I took the blue grooves off my rims and had these fitted in no time at all. They are a wider tyre but still fit my bike very well. They also look good but if anything the tread is maybe a little less pronounced than expected. I doubt they will last as long as the blue grooves did.

I took the bike out of the car in Hade Edge this evening and set off. 300 meters on Tarmac and then down some bridleways of mixed and very wet terrain. The instant tell was the speed. I've read a lot recently about fast rolling, low resistance tyres and can only assume the Blue Groove is a slow roller. The difference is night and day. The bike is far easier to pedal and far more eager to pile on the speed when gravity does its thing. I was shocked at the difference.

The next thing I noticed was grip. Now this is harder and my lack of experience must be taken into account by anyone reading this. My blue grooves were pretty bald and these were new tyres so obviously grip levels are going to be better.
However, changing from one surface to another, the Smorgasbord tyres felt really well planted all of the time. There were a few 30mph+ downhills on loose rocky terrain and several, soggy uphills punctuated with wet slabs and cart track ruts. The tyres were faultless IMHO.
However, there were two things of note. Firstly, when deeper mud was unavoidable, the tyre struggled for grip as much as my blue grooves did. They shed the mud much faster however. Secondly, when sand was the surface of choice, the tyres seemed suddenly slow and inexplicably weaker performing. I cannot explain this really other than to say that on sand I lost my confidence a little.

Overall, I'm genuinely stunned that a tread pattern can make that much difference in rolling resistance. The Smorgasbord tyres on my bike may have only covered 16 miles so far but, for me at least, those 16 miles represent exactly the variety of terrain I ride on most of the time, and the tyres performed well beyond my expectations. Maybe a set of Maxxis High Rollers would have given me the same or better result but they wouldn't have been £30 a pair and they wouldn't have been produced for a local company.

Internet forum recommendations are such a pile.
You don't know me. I'm not the worlds best mountain biker and I've got next to no experience of other tyres. Couple that with the fact this is my first post on here and I could be just some on one troll and where does that leave the value of my opinion?

My recommendation - visit on one in person and postage costs become irrelevant.

Brants comment on the price going up due to this thread absolutely made my day (im a halifax boy born and bred) and the subsequent fallout was typical Internet forum gold

Very interesting to hear your comments stoner, and that they're pretty close if not identical to my experiences with the tyre. Still looks too round in profile even on your Salsa Gordo rim for my tastes.

Brant, sorry only just seen your reply on here, have now emailed you...

just re-read your report mboy, and yes they are similar. Only difference is I didnt notice much "squirm" or tallness - I think it's a fairly tough carcass. More a feeling of vagueness in the soft stuff.

and yet you opted not to pay the new comedy price mmm interesting

Yup, absolute internet forum Gold.

Do you know what, I think the weather has been better since I bought these tyres. Ill have to tell On One and get them to put the price up again.

For those that are interested they are down to £14.99 in the PX/OO Clearance Corner now.

Yup, absolute internet forum Gold.

I know you told me any chance you could explain why you did not pay the new comedy price? After all that is what I commented on

I'm struggling to think of a reason why I would have paid more for a tyre that was available for less. The 'Mud damage' is non existent - at least on the four I got.

If the tyre had been available only at the 'comedy price' I would still have purchased them. That was my intention when I drove there after all as I clearly stated.

Surly it would still have been funny if you had paid £40 more for you 4 tyres than you did?

I think it would still have been funny, yes. And don't call me Shirley. No matter how badly you spell it.

I'm struggling to think of a reason why I would have paid more for a tyre that was available for less

its comedy gold apparently...they could have just asked you for more for those tyres than the £15...I feel sorry you missed out on a good laugh now

Keep up the good work on bouncing this thread to the top. Cheers.

Glad I started it 😉

Happy too as it shows what you think of your customers qnd the reviews have, at best , been indifferent/not great.
[b]Any chance you could explain, as required by law, when you charged £29.99 for the tyre? You seem to have charged every price but that price
Perhaps you could explain how your pricing policy complies with the law?[/b]
Oh of course pricing is not your thing eh
PS why has the link to the tyre design been removed...surely all publicity is good even the stuff that shows it was not designed with UK conditions in mind?

Any chance you could explain, as required by law, when you charged £29.99 for the tyre? You seem to have charged every price but that price
Perhaps you could explain how your pricing policy complies with the law?
Oh of course pricing is not your thing eh

Pricing isn't my thing. I am a product designer, hired by Planet X and On-One to design and work with production facilities for them.

PS why has the link to the tyre design been removed...surely all publicity is good even the stuff that shows it was not designed with UK conditions in mind?

I have no idea why a link has been removed.

Googling for "[url= http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=smorgasbord+tyre+design ]Smorgasbord tyre design[/url]" brings up plenty of info.

Anagram of Smorgasbord is Drags Mor,Sob. Spooky eh?

Anagram of Smorgasbord is Drags Mor,Sob. Spooky eh?

Anagram of Junkyard is "Rad Junky"

its comedy gold apparently...

Oh, I see your confusion now.

they could have just asked you for more for those tyres than the £15...I feel sorry you missed out on a good laugh now

They could have. I arrived, knowing nothing about the £14.99 mud damaged tyres but they had the decency to tell me about them. I'm interested to hear how you'll spin that into a negative.

Anagram of my name is 'Christ I'm Hard'. Beat that!

Anagram of my name is 'Christ I'm Hard'. Beat that!

A guy I went to school with has an anagram of his name that's "Violent C**t".

Anyhow.

Vincent Lout?

For anyone that's interested still... And I'm sure brant will be pleased to hear.

The Smorgasbord makes a MUCH better rear tyre than front IMO. It rolls pretty quickly, it's got plenty of traction in most conditions (though not so much deep mud), it's very stable under braking and pumped up reasonably firm (around 38psi I think I put in, enough to mean the tall profile didn't squirm at all) it was a whole lot better than running it on the front where I found it totally lacked any bite in the corners. It was even respectable over wet roots too. Predictable grip in most places and a fairly predictable drift I'd say, quite like a Kenda Nevegal but with a rounder profile and much much faster rolling.

It's not perfect, but it's a fairly good rear tyre in a mix of conditions I'd say. I still prefer the Rubber Queen in Black Chili flavour, but they're £45, and at the price On One sell these for they're better VFM if you get me. They definitely roll faster than a Rubber Queen, though not as fast as a Crossmark or a Racing Ralph for instance.

Well after a weekend at Afan/FoD of running one of these (60a/42a dual compound on the back), I'm a convert!
I usually run a tubeless nobby nic in the rear, but this just blows the NN out of the water for out and out grip. They roll just as well as the NN to boot.
Ok, they are 300 odd grams heavier than the nic, but I'll live with it. It didn't put a foot wrong at any point on the wet slate of Wales. For £14.99? Very happy here.

Have done another 4 rides on this tyre now, and...

Well, it's not for me. It's really quite good if you only ride dry, rocky trails. Sticks to them very well, rolls fast, provides plenty of cushioning etc.

But for most of my riding, especially in this British "Summer" weather, it just slips and slides all over the bloody place! I quite like a relatively loose tyre on the back of my bike, I'd rather the rear drifts than the front, but this is way too drifty for me on my normal trails.

If anyone wants it, it's in great condition, done about 100 miles tops, all offroad, no visible signs of wear... I just need something with more bite in the medium to loose conditons that are prevalent in the UK, not a rocky trails tyre as this seems to be.

Mboy - can I recommend an ignitor. Great Malvern tyre imo.

Haven't ridden Malvern or smorgasbord since my post as have been riding in France for the last four weeks. Top tip though is sb8's are just as good in 35c as 2.1" on dry dusty trails 😛

mboy I too considered these and many other tyres for British all year and wet summer riding. Eventually got myself a Conti Baron 2.3 Black Chilli. It is on the front at the moment, and I am currently testing it. But I think it might be just what you are looking for! 😉

I liked the irony of mud damaged MTB tyres....bought a pair of them in the sale To try out up Scotland over my usual tyre.

Very impressed with the tyre, provided lots of predictable grip in the wet and dry. Nice size for a 2.25 too. Will by trying it out in the peaks on Sunday but so far another excellent product from on one.

Can't comment about the performance n deep / loamy mud , but why would you run such a big tyre in these conditions anyway

So sorry to drag up a classic old thread but just been googling for a review on the smorgasbord and came across this.

The tyre is now down to a frankly silly £12.49! I am in the verge of ordering but I'm no expert so can someone tell me is it worth paying a fiver extra (per pair) for the trail extreme? Is it softer therefore will it not last as long? I'm looking at using them as a winter xc and commuting tyre.

The cheaper one will last longer, it has a harder compound.

The more expensive one is dual compound and most riders would probably put it on the front, where the stickier bits would help give more grip.

🙂

having ridden with a chunky monkey trail extreme on the front and a smorgasbord trail extreme on the back for three rides I can only add that they are crap in the mud and on damp roots( thats damp not wet) they are lethal. they feel nervous all the time out in surrey hills last weekendthe going was damp but not muddy and the front kept breaking away on even small roots.no where near as good as my base spec conti mk's. On paper they look good and the price is great so maybe when the summer comes they will shine but at the moment they are sitting in my garage.I emailed on one detailing my issues no response?

Thanks for the feedback (as Chief Designer for on-one). I've not (that I can remember) ridden the Surrey Hills, but I'm trying to get out a bit more this year. I'm quite puzzled as to what the conditions are like there that has polarised your opinion so much.
What tyres do you usually run, what pressures, rim width (internal?), bike type?

I reckon most people (me included)wouldn't be able to tell the difference from one tyre to the next if they were blindfolded.

As a contrast, I've found the Monkey / Smorg combo to be great on the slimy roots and wet rock around Keswick.
Even worked well in the snow over xmas! 😆

At a third of the price of my normal HR / Minion, I'll be stocking up.

hi brant tried them with 40psi as recommended by on one dropped them to 36 and they still did not work. last sunday the front washed out 3 times the last one had me off. not experienced that all through this winter and the last british summer.they bare fitted to ztr flow rims on a 2012 ellsworth moment. I was out yesterday with a conti mk( the entry level one)and the front was way better than the chunky monkey was and the conditions were a lot worse than sundays ride.I left the smorg on the back and it just would not hook up at all. as for being able to tell the difference- well i cant say that i can tell the difference between the cont rubber queens that i have run and the mountain kings but i could certainly tell the difference between the mk and the chunky monkey- like night and day

I love the chunky monkey on the front and have bought one for th rear to swap for the smorgasbord which is ok but not on par with the CM for out and out grip

I reckon most people (me included)wouldn't be able to tell the difference from one tyre to the next if they were blindfolded.

This could be the new niche - blindfolded mountain biking!

Put the smorg on the back - backwards like the old panaracer smokes - and it's great

To be fair, my first ride with them on was pretty sketchy too but after an hour or two on a damp Gisburn circuit they soon broke in. Feels like they needed to be ridden in to really get the grip going - not what I'd expected but now they grip like a sticky thing

I'm really impressed with them for the price. Now can you do that sram xx cassette for the same price?? 100 is still a bit high 🙂

Still no joy getting mine to go up tubeless.

Tried seating it on rim with a tube, unseating one side and smearing with washing-up liquid before pumping madly but the best I can manage is semi-hard (ooer).

The tyre bead curves back into itself more than my usual Maxxis tyres.

What techniques have you guys used successfully with the Smorgasbord folding version?

i use the infamous STW 9p inflator.

(easypeasy)

Leave it on the tyre with a tube in for 24 hours, mind wouldn't go up till I did that, then they went up easy with some soapy water (on Stans Crests)

I've had them on for about 9 months now, they are not the best in really slimy mud, drift a bit when it's slidy, which isn't very confidence inspiring on steeper stuff, but otherwise I still like them, right now I think conditions are spot on and if I get this summer out of them then I think they will have been the best all round tyre I've ever used.

Yeah I left it on for a few days, and went for a ride as well (on which I got a snakebite during a Strava run of heroic proportions).

Seems a pretty good tyre for the rear, relatively fast rolling but with enough climbing grip. Hope I can get it working. Will investigate the ghetto inflator thing later.

I've just bought a chunky monkey and a smorgasbord as a front and rear combo for my Trance 29er. First outing was at the weekend at Antur Stiniog. Chunky Monkey was awesome on the front in dire conditions-very wet and slippy! Smorgasbord was awful on the rear-quite possibly my least favourite ever tyre....just goes to show how personal tyre choice is I guess. Personally I am unable to detect 'flex' in component or notice any difference in damping in suspension etc but I can tell huge differences in tyres and pressures etc.

I'll be trying the smorgasbord running the other way with a little less pressure this coming weekend.

Finally thought I'd try these out for a weekend in North Wales. At £25 a pair for folding tyres essentially made by Maxxis, difficult to refuse. I got the Enduro single compound ones

So last May bank holiday did Coed y Brenin (the Beast) on the Saturday, Penmachno on the Sunday and Marin on the Monday. Bit wet on Saturday and Sunday, dry on Monday.

Have to say the tyres held up well through the rocky sections and had enough grip on any roots/muddy bits. Quite impressed. They seemed similar to the Kenda Nevegals they replaced, rolling a bit faster than those though.

Anyone say how they come up size wise? Appologies if it's in here somewhere but there's 7 pages of threads to read! I've got a 2010 Stumpys FSR, and clearance in the back isn't great so I'm looking for something gripy, fairly cheap and can be run tubeless. I can fit a 2.3 swampthing in there and a Spesh 2" tyre, is the smorgasbord similar size wise? I've got a Chunky Monkey on the front and it's great but huge!

I run the 29er 2.25 Smorgasbord on my hardtail they come up big. more 2.3 IMO
In the dry / damp can't fault them they stick well roll fast and have lasted well. they are a tad weighty but once rolling its not a problem
TBH I bought mine for £14 a tyre for the price I can't fault them when Schwalbe charge top side of £40 a tyre for something that is not appreciably any better or not £25 ish better.

Anyone say how they come up size wise? Appologies if it's in here somewhere but there's 7 pages of threads to read! I've got a 2010 Stumpys FSR, and clearance in the back isn't great so I'm looking for something gripy, fairly cheap and can be run tubeless. I can fit a 2.3 swampthing in there and a Spesh 2" tyre, is the smorgasbord similar size wise? I've got a Chunky Monkey on the front and it's great but huge!

I've just bought the 26x2.25 and will measure them once they're on if you want?

Cheers for that. If they come up like a Maxxis 2.3 then job's a good 'un. I like Spech tyres but they don't seem to do anything grippy in a 2", and the 2.2 / 2.3" tyres are too big. I've tried the captains and ground controls and they're great in the dry but lacking once it gets a bit wet.

Anyone say how they come up size wise?

Casing is a 2.25" Maxxis "new school" size, that is to say, slightly bigger than a 2.35" HR/Minion/Swamp Thing. They're very tall and rounded in profile though, so might fit, but might not. If they were any squarer edged I'd say no for definite.

Always found the spesh storm control great in the wet.

Would agree about the captain, great in the dry rubbish in the wet.

Thanks mboy. Taller is fine, it's wider that's the problem (no giggling at the back). Any other suggestions for an all round tyre that'll fit?

2.25 Smorgasbord isn't much smaller than the 2.4 Chunky Monkey and both are great tyres, I've recently read a comment from Brant saying that the Chunky Monkey isn't solely for front use so I'll be sticking one on the back when the Smorgasbord wears out.

Measured my 26" 2.25 Smorgasbord Trail Extremes and they come in at a smidge over 2.2" @ 30psi. Measured using digital calipers. They fit my Genesis Core nicely and could probably have something even bigger on the back.

Sorry for the thread ressurection, but only just got round to trying these.

Soft front, regular compound on the back.

Just done a 30 miler over the Pennine Bridleway and I'm very impressed.

Great on the rear:
No traction issues, not a huge amount of drag, comfy as hell because of the high volume.

Front was a bit 'pingy' at first 'till I reduced the pressure, but fine thereafter.
Felt a little vague at first when leant over on loose, rocky stuff, but never let go. Might try dropping the pressure a bit more on the front tomorrow.

More like an Ignitor than an XR4 (my current 2 favourite fronts) - faster than I thought they'd be, and overall, I'm very happy.
Especially for less than £30.00 a pair. 🙂

Bigger side/intermediate lugs would flatten the profile slightly and perhaps make the front feel a bit more planted when leant over, but it's no big deal. The actual grip seems fine.

It's really nice to find a bargain.
Even better when they work this well.

Bigger side/intermediate lugs would flatten the profile slightly and perhaps make the front feel a bit more planted when leant over, but it's no big deal.

Try a Chunky Monkey?

Just ordered a pair of the Enduro ones for my Solaris. Currently using Beavers, but wanted something with a bit more volume, we'll see how they fair, cannot go wrong for the price.

Yeah get a Chunky Monkey too, I love it as a front tyre and I'm gonna get a single compound one for the rear of my AM bike.

Brant - Have you considered doing a "cut-spike" mud tyre in the same casings, perhaps a bit like the new Magic Mary from Schwalbe?

Do you think I'm made of money? 😀

I'll give the CM a go when this one's down to the canvas.

Just come across these

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Still loving mine. Brilliant in the dry and for armoured trail centres but they are lethal in the mud. Geax Daturas going on this weekend.

Running a chunky (single compound) up front and smorg out back and pretty pleased with them both so far, chunky grips well up front and smorg being the smaller tyre rolls good too.

Both are up and running tubeless, chunky was easier to set up this way but using a ghetto inflator and some muscle the smorg went up too, absolute bargain for a pair of tyres I reckon.

hora - Member

Just come across these

From experience washing up liquid works better

matt_outandabout - Member
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I was searching for a topic on these tyres rather than starting a new one. Its obviously a resurrect as the post before was 5months previous.

Wow! a 7 page thread on a tyre clearly designed by an ADHD sufferer?

Pentagon shaped knobs? Really? And what the hell are all the random "L" and "U" shaped sipes all about?

Wow! a 7 page thread on a tyre clearly designed by an ADHD sufferer?

Pentagon shaped knobs? Really? And what the hell are all the random "L" and "U" shaped sipes all about?

Well that is one of the more interesting tyre reviews I've read.