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Just seen this on my daily planet x email. At first I thought it was a version of the whippet but it says It's not a Cross Country bike, it's an across ANY country bike. equipped with all the bikepacking mounts and frame features you need to explore exclusive backcountry destinations, self-supported with nothing holding you back.
They already have the vandal ti version of the scandal.
£1300 for a full ti bike with carbon fork is an impressive price point.
Anyone tempted?
Ti bootzipper?
(Edit)
Ti bootzipper?
Titzipper?
Looks ace.
Bootizipper?
explore exclusive backcountry destinations
like the look of that, have been contemplating selling my fairlight secan for something more off road capable (rubbish rider) and was looking at a sonder broken road, but this may do the job...time for some pondering
It does look like the Whippet, but the geometry charts are quite different.
Tempting, but people here have said that SX ir rubbish (I have no experience), shame there isn't a GX option.
Got the email, and I was tempted, but I already have a Big Dog and I don't think I need another bike 🙂
Tempting, but people here have said that SX ir rubbish (I have no experience), shame there isn’t a GX option.
SX is rubbish. But £1300 for a titanium rolling chassis isn't that bad value?
Whats with the retro geometry?
Give me Stooge or Jones geo and I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Same with the bootzipper, style is good but the geo is too old school.
Rigid bikes have moved on, these are a relic of the past.
Old school geo for old school trails
They should give it 26" wheels and canti brakes too then for the full 1993 experience
Rigid bikes have moved on, these are a relic of the past.
Go do a 7 day off road tour with some camping gear, on this 1993 on one bike and then do the same tour on a sick bike with rad angles and then when you realise why this has old skool angles you will understand why we all like this.
The only thing wrong with a mtb bike from 1993 (IMO) was it had the wrong size tyres!
The natural trails haven't changed!
If you want an extreme hardtail go rear the hello dave thread 😉
The world would be a boring place if companies only made one style of bike.
I got 2.35” into my 1993 Kona Hahanna.
(OK, slicks - it’s a pub and railway station bike these days)
@damascus lol I own a stooge, I've owned older 29ers with similar geo to this thing. I'd rather ride the stooge thanks, its been designed as a 29er rigid bike, not a roadie geo 26er with suspension fork removed and 29er wheels stuck on.
Many people happily ride to the ends of the earth on their Jones.
I suggest you try one on your next tour.
Bootizipper
Yeah, they missed a trick there
Re the Price point - its cheaper built than most TI frames. Is it too cheap? Do people really want a Ti frame with base level components on it?
They really have a knack for polishing turds and selling them at turd prices.
The geo isn't retro MTB at all - at least it's nothing like the 90s XC race-style bikes I used to ride. How high are those bars? Geo looks like it has more in common with one of these:
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Did anyone buy one? Currently 10% off at £1169.99
Did anyone buy one? Currently 10% off at £1169.99
Where did you see the 10% off?
* not in the market for this bike, just interested 🙂
10% off everything at the moment
10% off everything at the moment
Hmm. That must be a 'sign up for' thing then. I'm seeing £1,299.99 and no mention of a 10% off everything.
@bonzodog just add to basket, automatically adds code
10% Off Everything Ends 23/08 (Excludes Flash Deals And Other Promotions
CODE SR82110
Go do a 7 day off road tour with some camping gear, on this 1993 on one bike and then do the same tour on a sick bike with rad angles and then when you realise why this has old skool angles you will understand why we all like this.
I think that completely missed the point. For a start Sick didn't use anywhere near the same offset forks as Stooge.
They didn't win any multiday bike packing races either.
There's more than one way to make a bike handle nicely. It doesn't need to be via a short wheelbase and steep head angle anymore.
Yep did exactly that, was contemplating for a while so the 10% was enough to pull the trigger. Build date is also 1 month sooner than on the website!
At first I thought this was the On-One branded version of the Planet-X Titus-branded equivalent I bought a couple of years ago (which was their copy of the Sonder Broken Road Ti). But it's not, this On-One has quite different geometry: shorter WB and reach, steeper HA, and that headtube is quite short. Prefer the geometry on mine for intended use TBH:
Although for sub-£1300 that's quite a deal.
@wzzzz maybe you were right, looks like no one's buying this bike at £1299. Now selling this titanium bike at £1000
I like the way it weighs both 11.4 kg and 12.1 kg in the description
It's amazing that these are going for £1k now when it's so hard to buy new bikes anywhere else!
Personally I think that's a steal at a grand, don't understand why they aren't selling (if that's the case)..stick some tubeless tyres & Geoff loop bars on it and that's your bikepacking rig sorted.
Yep, I agree, it does seem a bit hard to pass up
Has anyone actually bought one? Are fhey any good?
Are we all just blinded by the fact its titanium and a grand and available?
If it was alliminium would we be as keen?
Its about the same weight as an alliminium frame.
I do like the look of the forks though.
Is it really?!? You're right, I was blinded by the titanium. Is the frame listed separately somewhere, so you can know the weight?
It is a ridiculously heavy bike, but I was hoping that would mostly be in the wheels and drivetrain
In my opinion it's hard and expensive to make a very good titanium frame.
So when companies sell cheap titanium frames they tend to be over engineered and therefore heavier than they should be so they don't crack, especially if they have a good warranty back up. This px just has a 2 year warranty.
This means they end up a similar weight to an alloy frame but usually a lot more expensive.
But titanium looks amazing raw.
A lot of the weight will be in the tyres, wheels, finishing kit etc. The frame in medium will probably be around 1800g give or take.
But this bike is a grand and available and in todays market that's unusual! If I didn't have a scandal I'd have one in a shot!
I bought a rocky road bike. Size medium, with 2.1 tyres and carbon bar. 10.3kg on the scales.
Sadly I'm adding to the weight by adding a 2.8 rekon on the front (tubeless of course), 2.6 ikon on the back and changing the bars to alkpit confusus. It's to be an all out packing rig.
So far really impressed, though brakes really need an uplift.
Reduced again to £1039. Has anyone taken the plunge? Any feedback on this.
Might be helpful to someone...GuyKesTV reviews here:
Is it possible to fit a full mudguard to the carbon fork?
zippyk, Not if it is the same one used on the rigid Whippet, which I assume it is.
Could do similar to my bodging with the Exotic fork on my Titus - created a fork 'bridge' from waste pipe (32mm I think), and used plastic P-clips on the legs. Been in use 8,000km+ on my gravelly bike and haven't needed tweaking once.
It will be a straight gauge unbutted frame. So the same weight or more than aluminium and possibly a harsh ride [my Scandal is smoooooth]. And the process to make it is incredibly polluting. But it's shiny, so of course it's worth it.
Any feedback on this.
Buy it with GX if you can. SX is really horrible.
They should give it 26″ wheels and canti brakes too then for the full 1993 experience
totes couldn’t tell the diff its disgustan 😑
Surely everyone would take the Kona, it's full of class.
1x chainsets and dinner-plate rear cassettes still and will always look stupid to me.
Any up to date feedback by any owners? I'm hovering over the button as we speak.
It's going to be used as a glorified gravel bike .
I bought one and it is a blast. The only complaint I have is that the tyres are easily punctured so buy a sturdier pair.
What does it weigh?
No idea what the weight is, but even with the stem and handlebars it feels light.
What is that aberration?
My Cleland homage.
If it's still around in march when my C2W scheme opens, I may be tempted. I'd quite like a cheap bike to get into the mountains before donning the hiking gear/stash bike in the heather.
Could someone who owns one of these confirm if it has stealth dropper routing? Cheers
Hi folks, might take advantage of the current offer but wondering about real world tyre clearance...
Cheeky tags - sorry 😁
@Tonolina
@Travellinglight
PX customer service suggest 2.4, but do any owners think you can go bigger and still clear mud? I'd like to use 2.6 really!
Thanks
The front fork has loads of clearance, but the rear looks like a 2.6 will clear the frame as long as the tyres aren't any higher/deeper(?) than the ones fitted.
The front fork has loads of clearance, but the rear looks like a 2.6 will clear the frame as long as the tyres aren’t any higher/deeper(?) than the ones fitted.
Thanks for that!
Hi, I can confirm the rocky road will happily take 2.6 on the rear, might even push to 2.8 if low tread profile. The front is massive, 2.8 to 3" no bother. I'm running 2.8/2.6 on the original rims. Seems OK for my xc riding.
I was torn between one of these or a whippet.
Ultimately my suspension seat post would only fit the whippet.
Now £999 !!!
must resist
Ditto the GX upgrade.
I rung PX recently to ask about an upgrade to NX but they couldn’t do it so offer the GX instead. For £200 you get rear mech, shifter, cranks and the new G2R brakes. So for £1199, you get a Ti and carbon bike upgraded to GX, no brainier really.
7 week lead time for the build which is agonising but can’t be helped. Stocks are reducing allegedly so make the most of the online discount.
Will keep you posted when it arrives.
I took delivery of one of these two weeks ago (the base SX spec) - converted to tubeless, fitted a dropper and, while I was ordering I spent an additional tenner on a set of Controltech flat bars - so cut those down to 780 and fitted them too - I can confirm after 100 miles of riding it's a lovely bike - ride is sublime - it's nice and light and rips along - very pleased with it -
I will see how the SX kit goes but my feeling is if the shifter/mech give up I'll just replace with Deore - no drama - I didn't think the upgrade was worth it -
I already had the tyres and seatpost so didn't need to spend extra £'s on it either -
Very pleased for now - oh, and to answer my own question from up above in this thread - it does indeed have stealth routing for the dropper!
It's £999 at the moment. Would you recommend this for a roadie getting more into off-road/gravel riding or would I be better off with an entry-level Specialized or Giant? It looks like a bargain to me.
Had been deliberating one of these for a while (also the Broken Road). The tyre clearance,GX upgrade & price finally convinced me & I have one arriving in March.
The geometry / weight is pretty similar to my 10 year old Cannondale Trail (rigid / single-speed), which I still love riding, so expecting the the Rocky Road to be spot on for some bike packing trips.
Well, I've put an order in.
How are people getting on with these , it's gone back up to 1300 but im sure it'll drop again as per usual px pricing
Frustratingly still awaiting build; I’m told they’re waiting for delivery of the fork.
8 March is my expected build date, so will keep you updated.
I just managed to order before the price increase but would be confident it’ll come down again shortly.
Thanks, yeah if normal price structure Is followed it'll be down again and by the time I get my c to w voucher it'll be up again lol
I must admit I cancelled my order as the 2 months wait was too long for me. Ended up going for something a little different (and in stock!) - an Olsen Mokihinui 😁