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Been onto PX chat and been told waiting still for axles and could be next week.
It’s here.
It's big, it's orange. I think I'm going to like it...
Sticker says... Max Wall Superlight, Triple Butted T6 Heat Treated.
Oh exciting, pics pics pics!
@jimdubleyou; Any idea/feel for the weight of it?
Ooooohhhh !!!!
@cromolyolly - It's about 14.5kgs, without pedals, with a reverb and inner tubes in those 2.4 tyres.
First impressions putting it together quickly -
Front wheel is a bit fiddly, the end caps drop off very easily and there's some sort of floating axle in there. Is that normal for novatec hubs?
This is my first bike with SRAM gears, and my first 1x. I think there will be an "adjustment period".
Unbranded rims look pretty similar to the pictures I've seen of the Hunt Trail Wide rims on the net.
Am pretty busy this weekend, so might not have a chance to set it up let alone go out. It will be going tubeless and getting some mudhugger love before it's ridden in anger.
Hmm mine's still sitting awaiting stock, but I also ordered some boost adapters so maybe it's them.
@jimdubleyou loose endcaps and floating spacer sounds possibly like Superstar design hubs maybe?
Hmm mine’s still sitting awaiting stock, but I also ordered some boost adapters so maybe it’s them.
It's not the frames, that's for sure. The ones that were sold out towards the tail end of the pre-order offer and weren't supposed to be back in stock until mid December were back in stock again late last week.
@cromolyolly it's either the frames or the thru-axle, my order was for only a large/orange frame and included thru axle. Nothing's arrived yet, still awaiting stock on their website. But clearly they've got (at least some of) those parts ready to go if they're sending out bikes
Edit to add: make of this what you will - website says:
X-Large / ED Black No Decal
Sold Out
X-Large / Gloss Orange
Sold Out
X-Large / Raw Phosphate
Due in: 09/12/2019
Large / ED Black No Decal
Sold Out
Medium / ED Black No Decal
Sold Out
Small / ED Black No Decal
Sold Out
Large / Gloss Orange
Due in: 09/12/2019
Medium / Gloss Orange
Lots in stock
Small / Gloss Orange
16 in stock
Large / Raw Phosphate
Sold Out
Medium / Raw Phosphate
Due in: 09/12/2019
Small / Raw Phosphate
16 in stock
Im not sure the black ones ever showed as in stock. I guess it's all part of the on one experience! That and upside down stickers. I missed out - I hhummed and ha-ed and waited too long so the size and colour was sold out at the end of the preorder discount. They were then due in mid December. Then there were back a couple of days later. I suspect they prioritised full builds over frame only so you might have run into a popular size and colour for full builds. Can't blame them really for taking the extra profit but it's still annoying for you. Hope you get in soon. Pics!
^ I did the same. I went to order a size small the night the pre order discount was due to end but all sizes and colours were showing out of stock. It serves me right for being indecisive, but it did make me wonder if they pulled all the stock when they discovered the issue with the thru axles.
I did order mine a bit late and in a large orange too so I'll have to learn to be patient.
PX chat are now saying next week for axles to be delivered, i might get the frame before Christmas 2021 🙂
I did the same. I went to order a size small the night the pre order discount was due to end but all sizes and colours were showing out of stock.
Did you check back the next day or two after?
I did. The size small was showing out of stock up until this weekend in all colours.
I used the stock alert email notification just in case they came back in, and received an email over the weekend. Trouble is I know I could have had one at the pre order price, so can't bring myself to pay full price for one now.
he size small was showing out of stock up until this weekend in all colours.
Thats slightly less annoying, then but still
I can't bring myself to pay full price either. It's PX though, so I'm sure something similar will pop up pre or post Xmas. Plus I'm guessing there'll be a few popping up 2nd hand when people have had a chance to try them out and decide they aren't quite right for them.
Glad I'm not the only one still waiting on a frame (large/grey - now showing Out of Stock :/ ). PX chat on Friday told me "some" axles had arrived, so he was going to allocate the stock and release my order to be shipped... heard nothing else yet. Sounds like full builds are taking priority.
Anyone else actually got hold of one of these yet? Bike or frame? Feels like it might be a Christmas present to myself at this point.
I asked about the black ones too: Not expected until 'at least February'.
I ordered mine on 10th Oct at 2PM, would've thought I ought to be pretty near the front of the queue.
Live chat told me:
we weren't happy with some of the axles delivered with the frames so we're having replacements made by a different supplier. These will be in Friday and we'll get the frames dispatched Monday latest.
I ordered mine on the 10th October at 11:30am, wonder who will get the frame 1st 😉
On a whim I bought some superstar torque caps. They appear (in my post work drinks haze) to fit like a charm. More to follow this weekend hopefully...
Still not got mine yet... Anyone else?
Not yet (frame only order). I tried the online chat thing yesterday and was told early next week for delivery.
I was on the live chat today and they said they're hoping for dispatch tomorrow. We'll see...
First impressions after a quick ride around the park at the weekend:
1) my sealant has gone off in the bottle, slow puncture after setting up tubeless - nothing to do with the bike
2) SX gears seem pretty crap compared to the XT on my other bike.
I was prepared for slightly worse performance, but these seem to be decidedly ponderous - sometimes taking a couple of seconds to shift, sometimes not at all. This might be a setup issue won't know until I get a chance to get it up on the stand and have some fettling time.
3) seems like there isn't much clearance on the non-drive side for anything bigger than a 2.4 and still allow room for mud.
4) I'm a bit peed off on pricing. When I bought mine you had to pay extra for the Rockshox fork so I could buy exactly the same spec today for the same price I paid in the pre-order.
^ On one/px pricing ^
Are you new here ?
SX gears seem pretty crap compared to the XT
There's a long way between the two, x0 and xtr being roughly on par, xt is about X1 in 11 speed there's no Eagle equivalent. Gx is about slx, nx about deore and sx somewhere below that. So it's a bit like trying to compare altus or something and xt.
Are you new here ?
Yeah, I know 🙁
So it’s a bit like trying to compare altus or something and xt.
Fair point. I'll see if I can make them better on the stand.
If not will invest in some new shimano 12 speed stuff and see if it works with a SRAM cassette.
Otherwise it will be back down to 11 speed as I don't think I'll be able to get microspline on those wheels.
If not will invest in some new shimano 12 speed stuff and see if it works with a SRAM cassette.
I'm led to believe the mech and shifter are interchangeable, the cassette certainly is.
I'm also awaiting the arrival of a large, grey Big Dog frame. What's the issue with these thru-axles?
I’m also awaiting the arrival of a large, grey Big Dog frame. What’s the issue with these thru-axles
At this point, supposedly its just processing time but apparently the original batch failed qa. Given some of the problems with London Road frames that made it out of the door I'm going to guess failing px's QA means they actually burst into a ball of firey death on contact with air.
I’m going to guess failing px’s QA means they actually burst into a ball of firey death on contact with air.
I think they were too short... Not sure even PX would send out a bike which didn't do up 🙂 Maybe I give them too much credit...
Just had shipping notification...
Xl phosphate.
Just got my despatch notification for the frame. Will be interesting to see what's in the box when it arrives tomorrow...
And me whoop whoop
hmmm mine was destined for S.Wales, left Birmingham went to Glasgow(?), now it's been delayed... Nightmarish thoughts of damaged boxes and missing parts are now circling my mind.
Well packaged but a word of caution, the mech hanger is in a small bag taped to the frame protection but the bag wasn't sealed so spent a few minutes chasing the bolt and hanger around the workshop
Flipping heck, is that an XXL? Looks v. tall in the pic's angle.
Xl in theory, though I did think "hmmmm this looks small" when I unboxed it.
I'll throw a tape over it later when I'm not supposed to be doing something else
My Large Phosphate frame is on it's way. Look forward to seeing some cool builds on this thread.
Just back from Inners shuttle day and my Large Orange frame is here. Thanks for tip on mech hanger - thought it was missing but it is under brown packing tape securing foam frame protection. This will be my first steel bike since 1989 (Saracen Tufftrax) and my first 29r so looking forward to trying this.
Bah..... XL looks like a farmer's gate built up. No dropped top tube.
Missed a trick their Brant what with the modern geometry on the rest of the bike.
So far I have had 2 through axles delivered(one last week and one today) but no frame despite assurances from planet X. This impulse buy is turning into a real shlep.
This impulse buy is turning into a real shlep.
And they rub it in - the website still says in stock and ready to ship
4) I’m a bit peed off on pricing.
One if the reasons I dithered. You always think you are getting a bargain then it goes cheaper.
Well I was really pleased with mine. All done, quick shakedown, went to bleed rear brake and just blew my lever up. Now very cross.
I received my Big Dog L phospate frame today... what a cool look 🙂
BUT: The axle is too short! It says length 171,5 mm on it and I can't thread it in with a 148 Wheel mounted. What about your axles - are they longer?
EDIT: I went into the chat... I really got one of the old wrong axles. A new one will be sent out 🙂
Mine got delivered today. The box was open at both ends, but I haven't had a chance to take a look properly. The frames wrapped in a reasonable amount of bubble wrap and masking tape though.
Fingers crossed it's all there.
Mine got delivered today too, but without a hanger and with wrong (short) axle. After 3-4 weeks :-/
@lukasj - double check the brown parcel tape on the frame protection foam - the hangers well embedded under some of that brown tape - well mine was when I thought I didn't have one in the box.
Mines here, built it on Sunday, rode it on Monday for an icy commute. It's excellent; a wee bit of rear compliance (not much mind..), quick, handles well on the easy trails so far and fits exactly as I'd hoped. No issues at all, hanger & correct axle supplied, boxed thoroughly, packed carefully.
2x10 works with a 38/26 boost chainset and forward pull front mech. I've kept the front low for xc/packing/commuting duties with a 100mm fork.
Another commute ride tomorrow to continue the developing relationship. Am happy.
How long does the On One account page sit on "In Picking" typically? I would ask OO chat, but dont want to scupper my chances of getting it this year. :s
Are you guys getting your frames chased/faced/reamed etc. or not bothering? If I can get away without any additional prep in a shop I could have mine built tonight
Are you guys getting your frames chased/faced/reamed etc. or not bothering? If I can get away without any additional prep in a shop I could have mine built tonight
I did the BB on mine. Threads were fine but the faces were a bit out and material came off to even them out
BB was fine on mine, post mount brake needed a bit of paint taking off to get it square.
Right axle, and hanger attached.
Looks all good. Now to build it up on the sly.
XL bootzipper (or box saying thats whats in it) arrived today, . past week or so ive been collecting spare parts and buying new odds and ends where necessary.
Just need to make some space in "the shop" and we're under way.
Dont think ive EVER faced a BB. the threads are long enough and the spacers squishy enough, that it would have to be way out to start making a difference.
Scrape blobby paint, if there is any.
My Big Dog frame arrived and I immediately took the rear wheel off another bike and threw it in. No issues with the thru axle, although the clearance is a bit tight with a 2.4 Conti Trail King.
the clearance is a bit tight with a 2.4 Conti Trail King.
This puts me right off.
although the clearance is a bit tight with a 2.4 Conti Trail King.
Are the 2.4 still as comically wide as when they were rubber queens?
I'll have a look when home but seem to think there's was uggins of clearance on the 2.3 shorty in mine
First ride on my big dog today.
Really impressed with it. It's a good fit and the geometry makes it feel well balanced so was quickly up to speed on the descents and was happy to push hard into the corners. Chuffed for two hundred notes....
Would of been exactly what I was after if the top tube was a bit lower as I've got a feeling my voice may go a bit squeaky if I need to dab on steeper trails. Brant if you read this do a MKII with a dropped top tube and I'll buy that as well 👍
’ll have a look when home but seem to think there’s was uggins of clearance on the 2.3 shorty in mine
About 6mm either side of a 2.3 shorty on a 29mm internal rim
First of all, more pictures of your big dogs gentlemen.
Second - it was supposed to take 29x2.6, wasn't it?
Are the 2.4 still as comically wide as when they were rubber queens?
I’ll have a look when home but seem to think there’s was uggins of clearance on the 2.3 shorty in mine
Yes, the 2.4 Trail King is pretty large compared to other 2.4s. It’s a bit tight near the non-drive side chainstay. I really like the damping and grip @ 23-24 PSI (the latest version updated in 2018).
Finally got a build together. Not quite ideal as I thought the fork adjusted down to 130mm but seems minimum is 140mm once I had dismantled it - decided to run with this for now. Gears, brakes, finishing kit off the old Ti456. Stem maybe too long but 'fit' seems very similar to my FS (Yeti SB6) when I sat on it. Weight is 14.1Kg with CB mallets.
Looks great, my black XL due late Feb apparently so nice to see these in the meantime. What size rear tyre is that?
@tb927 - rear is a 2.3 (on 30mm rim). Seems to be at least 10mm clearance ether side at the chainstay junction.
Two things I have struggled with building up this bike:
1. The headtube is 135 long in xl. Coupled with the type of headset(external cups) it means that you need at least 200mm on the steerer tube. Even then you are lw by about 8mm if you use the selcoff headset as suggested by on one.
2. Rear disk brake caliper alignment. I am using 180mm rotors and xt 2 pot calipers. I cannot stop the outside pad rubbing against the disk. I have tried pushing out the caliper as much as the slotted bolt holes will allow. Now thinking about using a different caliper. I have the el cheapo shimano calipers as an alternative.
@slowmover - any pics of your brake setup. I only have 160 rotor with an old Hope mono mini caliper. I was looking at using a 180 rotor I have but I can't see how to squeeze the 180 mount in and still access the mounting bolts.
On my large frame (120 headtube) I have 200mm steerer but that is with 30mm of spacers under the stem. I am using a Superstar headset.
. I was looking at using a 180 rotor I have but I can’t see how to squeeze the 180 mount in and still access the mounting bolts.
That's not a major issue, 180mm on a magura Mt caliper and the rear most bolt is a bit awkward to access but certainly do-able, there's more awkward bolts to get at.
If I manage to actually get out of the house over the next few days I'll get some photos up.
On the bogo build, are the wheels tubeless?
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That's a 180mm rotor but, looking at the photos I can't help but think the adapter is the wrong way around.
Also sorry its dark, but you know, winter.
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FRANKENDOG with spacers moved on boost conversion kit to facilitate caliper. Agree with above although space is tight a 180 rotor adapter fits. May be better to remove wheel to get more leverage when tightening.
Thanks for pics, the 180 adaptor I have in the spares box is a Hope one (Type L) that wants to move the caliper backwards - no chance. Both yours look like simpler solutions.
At long last the big dog is operational. Took it for a quick spin. Steering feels very heavy. Current stem on xl is 60mm. I have a 35mm stem in the spares box. So will give that a go. I had the saddle in the middle of the seat post. I am thinking of pushing it back a bit. Maybe I am just used to more old fashioned geometry?
Do we reckon one of these will fight in the back? My rims at the moment are Pacenti Dl31s. With outer width of 31mm, and inner bead width of 26mm. Otherwise I'll order a 2.3" one.
Do we reckon one of these will fight in the back? My rims at the moment are Pacenti Dl31s. With outer width of 31mm, and inner bead width of 26mm. Otherwise I’ll order a 2.3″ one.
I reckon that 2.4 WT DHR should be fine.
So that's me managed a few rides now on my new Big Dog and I must say I am liking it. I don't know if it is the frame design/material/fit or the big 29r wheels but it feels comfier (compliant) than the Ti456 it replaces - a definite bike I can ride all-day. I am 6ft2 on a large with 60mm stem.
I have tweaked the DVO fork a little and like it's feel now. It's my first air fork in a while and at 140mm it was supposedly too long for the bike. However, by running slightly over-sagged and adding a drop of oil for progression it actually ended up feeling good to me - plush and controlled over the repeated roots of my local Drumlanrig.
Things to change - jury's out on the Goma front tyre but the wet roots have been a little testing for any tyre past couple weeks so I will wait and see. Am having to get a correct diameter dropper as running a spare inside a shim isn't working out.