[Closed] OMG, I think i'm now too old for my hardtail....

I feel ya pain! 😛

You're definitely not too old for a hardtail if you do hash tags on a bike forum.

Because of this I have three full sussers.

You're definitely not too old for a hardtail if you do hash tags on a bike forum.

I'm 52, HT still ridden 90% of the time.

Been considering chopping the HT in for a modern short travel FS 29er.

Might as well hand in my "mancard" now eh!

Rule 5.

It applies to MTBs too.

HTH. 😉

Convert to single speed then you will sit down less on the rough up bits ...

You know you don't [i]have[/i] to remain seated - yes?

yeah, go for it - or get a thudbuster

This is a constant quandary for me for my next bike, despite it being a couple of years away. I've always wanted a custom steel HT to build up myself with nice kit - a Curtis or similar. But with near constant lower back ache and approaching 40 I just don't know if the money would be better spent on a FS of some sort. Like the OP, the downs are fine in so far as I can ride them, even if it's rough and/or technical, although I can feel pretty battered after a day of it, but getting to them or to the top of them can give my back quite a bit of grief.

Weak

I'm 52, HT still ridden 90% of the time.

this is pot luck though, you can be 80and still riding a hardtail. Others have a back that is shagged by 30 and very much appreciate some comfort.

The Pig has been abandoned and lying neglected in the garage since purchasing my Altitude late last year 🙄
Same reason as other, constant lower back pain. Old back injury from my early 20s, now into my 60s and contemplating an ebike soon 😉

sillyoldman - Member
You know you don't have to remain seated - yes?

However FS only lessens the pain 💡

I enjoyed riding my HT last winter. I then built the FS back up and realised what I'd been missing. Sold the HT.

Get a full suss as they're ace. You will no longer be able to bore people about the purity of your bike or your ability to pick lines though.

I thought this last year after a nasty off left me with lower back pain ( had a disc bulge). Pilates and core strengthening sorted me, but every now and then I get a relapse.
I ride a Bfe, and find as long as I stretch after a ride I am usually fine.
@Greatape can you not get up to Harrogate for some physio?

It would be down to Auchterader for me, but I don't know, I've never thought to ask.

A good regime of core strength exercises and stretching will do far more for your riding than dropping coin on more bikes. I've suffered from a bad back periodically and still ride a rigid bike at 50 but getting my gym routine sorted means I'm not thinking of chopping any in yet.

A colleague had a similar injury to mine, he was paying into the recuperation centre at the time. He had 2 weeks (paid) up at Harrogate and said it was really good. I joined after my injury and if it flairs up again I will give them a call. The physio sessions are supposed to be A1. 🙂

I'll have a look then, see if I can go. Been paying it long enough!

dovebiker +1

Alternatively, get a gym ball and get some core exercises to do on and with it from YouTube to avoid going to a gym.

Has worked wonders for me over the last 12 years or so and used to have chronic sciatica, sacroiliac joint and general pain for as many if not more years than that beforehand. I rarely suffer from lower back issues now, 52, physical job and lifestyle and I love riding my HT as much as my FS 8)

With all the leaves on the ground at this time of year, the ground is softer than it ever gets round here. Time for the FS to go away and the HT to come out for winter for certain...

Know what you mean about the back pain, but genuinely if you think having 100mm of squish between your arse an the ground will make a significant difference you're quite mistaken! Improvements to both your core strength and your climbing technique will make the world of difference regardless of what bike you ride.

[url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tom-Danielsons-Core-Advantage-Strength/dp/193403097X ]This book[/url] should help. The first third is a bet heavy but the exercise plans are great at strengthening core muscles for cycling.

Check setup - more up right, more spacers under stem, bar, seat etc. Lower your seat, it could be just too high. Gym core is a must.

No it's not!

Never been a gym member in my life and have a far stronger core than most cyclists.

Just ride your bike with your saddle slammed. and ride it a lot more than you currently do.

Be honest. how much do you actually ride?

@taxi I have a bad back from tennis. I suppose perhaps not of the type which hurts when biking. I also have two knees without ACLs and heavily scared calcs from too much astro turf sport so I'm hardly in fine fettle

I have gone semi fat on the HT... it has helped.

Cheers Dogthompson... a good addition to the Kindle.

My back started causing me pain at 18. In the intervening years i have had physio, acupuncture, 2 weeks at harrogate, an array of differing stem lengths and bike fits.
I would love to be able to ride my old 23lb carbon hardtail around Gisburn, and it was quicker than a f/s on most stuff, however the lower back pain would prevent that. The f/s makes it bearable with 2 or 3 glute stretches thrown in to a ride. If you ever see anyone led at the side of the trail with their limbs tied in a knot, don't worry it is just me stretching my back 🙁

Try fat or + before going to FS, had manyvFS over the years but sold them all on, never could get on with climbing. Fat tyres HT for comfort & the the win

I'm 47 and my back has been bad for the past 30 years but I'm still riding my hardtail 😛

helpful1 » Never been a gym member in my life and have a far stronger core than most cyclists.

Heh

Never been to a gym and knows his core is stronger. How many years you not been going? I'm late 50s certainly helps maintaining overal strength, core back etc.

strong enough to have never even considered moaning about it. 😉
Have been riding bikes with slammed saddles for extended periods pretty much all my life though. Ever tried it?

I'll ask again. How much do you actually ride?

+1 Fat bike

50 in a few months, 3 days riding. Fri CDF on road for a few hrs, Sat Anthem on Cathkin race trails for a few laps, today 2 hrs on track at Velodrome. Copious wine seems to be assisting pain relief 😀

Have been riding bikes with slammed saddles for extended periods pretty much all my life though. Ever tried it?

Nope, I ride as efficiently as possibly which means a saddle at the correct height.

Fat tyres HT for comfort & the the win

[b]+1[/b]

+27.2 seatpost, +flexi saddle.

I am really tempted to try a 650b+whatnot size, purely for comfort without comedy of a fatty.

If you're riding with a gravity dropper seat post swap it out for a regular seatpost....I've found since I fitted one to my Cove Stiffee, it's certainly stiff as a rod of iron......so much so that I've considered removing it and going back to the Thomson post that was on it.......but instead when I feel like a softer rear end ride without trashing the full suss in winter mud...I bought a fatty....it's true ridiculous comfort and grip and a right laugh to ride.......oh and no forks to worry about cleaning etc etc etc just lube the chain and ride 😆

It's been said up there ^ somewhere already but I don't think that age is the defining factor here. I'm 57 this month and the FS has hardly been used in the past 4 years. Fat, CX, 29er HT all have preference.

Has anyone found a suspension seat post like a Thudbuster or USE Vybe any good for improving things? Or are they crap?

They do make you feel a bit "remote". I much prefer the feel that fat tyres give (if you're after that sort of thing). A flexy Ti seatpost might take some sting away without being so drastic?

I think I've an old USE kicking around the garage somewhere. If I can find it, you're free to try it out (for the price of postage). Might need a shim as I think it's a 26.0

Isn't it lovely having GW back? I for one have greatly missed his remarkable humility and unfailingly helpful posts!

Cheers scotroutes, I'd be up for trying it if you're sure you don't mind?

I'll have a wee dig around tomorrow

Ok thanks, I'll keep an eye on here and if you find it I'll drop you an email. Cheers.

having GW back? I for one have greatly missed his remarkable humility and unfailingly helpful posts!

I had my suspicions!

Has a point though about not needing to go to the gym (plenty of core exercises can be done in the comfort of your own home, or even at work), but 10/10 for the "I'm better than all of you, **** yeah" delivery style!

None of the many FS bikes I've had rival the comfort of my HD, with a 27.5"+ rear / 29+ front.
It manages to retain a degree of responsiveness whilst still giving a nice forgiving ride.
The new Five I bought earlier this year rarely gets a look in these days.
It really is a lovely ride.