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I don't have a cold etc. Just leaden legs, no energy on the bike. Off the bike I'm lively. What gives? Its exactly like both brakes are rubbing bad.
Are both brakes rubbing bad? Forks gubbed?
wheels weight twice as much in combination with increase rolling resistance saps it out of the legs.
AIDS
High roller super tackys?
AIDS
More like Bad AIDS
It's the good Lord telling you to have a break.
Jesus telling you to give me your bike?
Too much apple pie?
me too hora - having a week off. With having a kid i feel like i HAVE to ride regradles sof tiredness or underlying illness. Then i feel shitter etc so have decided a week off is a good plan.
Sambob I no longer own a turner!
Steve, I'm 16stone- a stone over ideal. Stupidly I worked hard at the gym for 2 weeks and built my top half too much.
how can you build your top half in two weeks.. answer, u cant.
[i]I'm 16stone- a stone over ideal.[/i]
Unless you're 6'6" I'd suggest your more than a stone over... 😉
you clearly need a new bike
hora i am 6ft 2 and 12.5 stone, i consider myself to be carrying 1/2 to 1 stone too much, are you peter crouchs fat brother?
are you peter crouchs fat brother?
Sorry, but 😆
As a fellow chunkster I find that when the ground is soft or it's windy it gets disproportionately more difficult for me. Like wise, lots of variations in gradient, particularly if they are steep, seem to get me going backwards. But every dog has his day and on the right routes it really gets up the skinny boys' noses when 17st of beer monster hands them their arse on a plate. Try different tyres or a different routine for a while.
Cruz, you must look funny.
LOL @ Realman and the OP.
it must have been only 6 weeks since the new, new turner was the bestest, bestest, over and above the old turner?
genius.
Cruz if I dropped 1stone I'd be at my ideal weight for my build. I was 12.5stone when I was 16 and I looked like I'd been released from Belsen. I rode a roadbike fast however that's not what I personally want from life. 
Del the Specialized Enduro is a far better frame. Sadly it doesn't have boutique or carpark bling cache. It doesn't require faff setting up and I don't care if its dirty. Perfect as I never wash or clean my frames. 8)
This isn't a thread about a new frame. If I was going to get one itd be a c456 not a gearqueer frame. 😉
buttercup - MemberCruz, you must look funny.
explain?
Hora - how tall are you? to be that weight and healthy BMI you would need to be 6ft 4"+
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the Specialized Enduro is a far better frame. Sadly it doesn't have boutique or carpark bling cache. It doesn't require faff setting up and I don't care if its dirty. Perfect as I never wash or clean my frames.
whatever works dude...
6ft1.6, 15stone 12lb, BMI 28.9.
I don't go by BMI. I'm quite sturdy. I'd look terrible as a 'bird 8)
so essentially my height and 3 1/2 stone heavier?
thats like carting my dauhter round in the trailer
lol@ 6ft 1.6 😀
i'm 6ft 2 😉 15st 7 according to the chart above i'm borderline obese
old age is catching up with you Hora, time to get an electric bike mate to get you up the hills 😉
I'm more interested in your upper body program...
Cruz I hear you but that's cycling weight ideal. I'm quite top heavy/broad. Its a compromise.
Saying that I'm dropping a stone (12lb) within a month.
stone is 14lb hora
Do you warm up properly? Do a decent hill climb or something to get your heart rate up, I find I feel pretty lethargic unless I do this.
How are you sleeping?
Interesting. I find that it can take me 30mins to get my heart going. Sometimes it never happens (breathless) other times I have steady breath throughout.
Heart attack!
davidtaylforth - Member
Do you warm up properly? Do a decent hill climb or something to get your heart rate up, I find I feel pretty lethargic unless I do this.
This.
I felt very lethargic today, but after 90mins riding and a reasonable amount of climbing I was fit to do another couple of hours.
Heart attack!
Yeah, thats what I aim for.
You could probably lose a bit of weight though, Im 6'2" but about 5 stone lighter than you. Fortunately I havent died yet, but unfortunately I look Ill. You could probably strike a better ballance, say 12 stone?
Sleeping badly- 18month old boy. David agree but I feel good at 15stone. I'll drop to 14.5 and see how it feels.
i think the sleep thing is whats doing me - usually 6hrs max but i am not relaxing as i know i may be woken up!!
I thought I'd had all my Xmas presents, but a Hora thread is the gift that keeps on giving.
😉
Bloody hell Im obese!
Yes you are.
I am perfectly healthy, however, you'll be pleased to hear. 😀
I'm 6'1" and 12 and a bit stone, could do with being a bit lighter though. Or turn my winter insulation into muscle. Are you really 6'2"?
given the title there's a simple answer. Give your balls a break and time to recharge 😉
Just have a rest for 3-4 days. Don't drink and do eat properly. Reassess after the break. Happens to me evey now and again - then I look at the training log and realise why... Time for a rest! Have you recently upped riding hours/gym work?
GB
hora, you are not big, you are built like a teenage girl........ 😀
and i prescribe a big dose of mtfu for the tiredness thing....... 😉
Hora's a top heavy teenage girl? Wow! That explains a lot.
Borderline overweght / obese here. 5'9" @ 14.5st. Lost 2st in last 14 weeks. I consider I have another 2st to go, as a min, to be at top end of normal weight band. Enjoying running more than riding at the moment. Perhaps you could give it a go...something different just to keep your fitness up during rubbish weather.
hilarious thread, best one in ages!
Hora if you are 6ft 1 and weigh 16 stone, either you are on the olympic powerlifting squad or have a massive hunchback.
It's the only explanation I can possibly think of!
Maybe spending a week off the bike having more sex will put the ahem 'spring' back in your legs?
Sambob yes!
Right. Out on the bike everyday this week.
I loves charts. Here's devs at borderline obese weighing just under 17st. Warra fat knacker eh? Excuse the hair, it's a once a year middle age crisis thing.
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You bat fastard! 😀
one word. dbol.
Steroid?
Devs, I think that drink container says it all
Well it's obvious you're going to weigh 17 stone with a man on your shoulders...
DEVS SMASH!
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BMI is only relevant for couch potatoes who'd rather watch Jeremy Kyle than get out and do some exercise. It gets thrown out of the window once you start looking at people who maintain a level of fitness that is not long distance running.
I built up my upper body strength and core strength this year. I've been stronger and fitter than before but my weight increased.
Devs - BMI doesn't work for you as you're built like a brick shit house... Hora on the other hand appears to just be full of shit...
Stupidly I worked hard at the gym for 2 weeks and built my top half too much.
LOL and double PMSL.
Who you cally Johnny Vegas? 😆
5.10 % 13.5 stone, bmi is only a rough guide.
Hora, its very wet ground out there, this will make a huge difference to how draggy it feels and knacker you out much quicker.
also, stop riding by your self. social rides help take your mind off any minor issues but solo riding can amplify them.
also, stop riding by your self. social rides help take your mind off any minor issues but solo riding can amplify them.
...but group riding will amplify just how slow and useless his bike, not Hora obviously, is when compared to others.
exactly and I need some new barely used bits that Hora will then sell...
RD, it was a weekend full of win, hopefully topped this year with Metallica and Black Sabbath headlining.
Hora, 29er. That's all I'm going to say but if you have momentum to carry they do it better. Mine has been a revelation.
Just looked up dbol. I'm kinda flattered that you think that I look enhanced but you'll be surprised to know that I haven't been in a gym in 10 years and even then it was nowt serious. 25 years of rugby, skiing and for the last few years mountain biking and a few press ups is all I have done. My only supplements are beer and cider, mostly taken in a binge session once a week. Oh and the occasional bit of blow at festies.
No ones riding until the 2nd though 🙁
Oh! Late on getting on this one.
Cruz, I am 5' 7" on a good day, and way about 5 kilos more than you. But if I lost any weight, I would look like some prussian refugee.
I think it's a devs related thing. according to a BMI, I have been overweight since I was 14...
The older I get the longer it takes me to get going, feel crap for the first few miles / climbs then settle down. Find I have more stamina and can keep going a lot longer but at a slower pace. Can usually reel in the young uns after 20 or so miles! 6ft 4" and about 18stone. Need to shift some weight from my top half. I hear the rowing machine calling from the garage.
All the best endurance athletes are late 30's and well into 40's. Older people are just better at grinding out the miles and aren't best suited to quick sprints.
I'm 6'2 and weigh 11.5st. Heaviest i have been in the last ten years is 12 stone, and that when i didn't ride the bike for 18months.
This is just my natural weight, no need to bulk up are loose weight.
hora,
A few things to consider - you mentioned bad sleep. That's a huge starting point and, in many cases, the culprit. Outside stress (job, family, money, etc.) adds a lot to fatigue too. Another thing to consider is the amount of time you've been riding over the last week, month, 6 months, 10 months. Without proper stress relief and sleep, fatigue accumulates over periods of time and comes through as poor performance.
Hora if you are free come ride with us on Thursday - stanage and some cheeky shit
Hmmm 6ft 5", or maybe 6ft 4" now, and currently 17st 2lb. Maybe more, it's Christmas.
My ideal, roadie boy, weight is circa 15st 8lb. Anything less and I'm going backward. However I have no arms at this weight so cannot hang on to my DH or AM bike.
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Wl29ti yep. I'm at the Trafford centre now as hora junior wouldn't sleep. Giving his mum some peace.
Cruz would love to but Thurs I'm off to Chester. I'm riding (slowly) tomorrow though from Edale over the Peaks
Hora, get this quite a lot and for me it's usually down to a lack of decent sleep. Bit of a vicious circle too as poor sleep means low quality workout, and poor workout leads to poor sleep.
Also solo rides, darkness, draggy winter tyres, sticky mud.. these things can make rides feel like a chore if you are tired before you start.
I usually cut back on riding and just do it when i know it's going to be fun (usually with mates), but can't run due to injury so having to ride for fitness which can take the fun out of it a bit.