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Promoted by the article on road.cc off the back of a Facebook post, do you give kudos for indoor rides and runs?
(Yes, I know some people take Strava too seriously).
https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-9-january-2025-312009
I give kudos for runs to runners, bikers that do the odd run no...triathletes get no kudos for anything, obviously. Dog walks, yoga and skiing, can do one too.
Indoor rides, nope.
I am amazed people give me kudos for my 3.5km commute ?
Yes, where it is an encouragement and support, the rules maybe need redefying, albeit rules 1-3 are right;)
did not read article....but have been on rollers in cold garage!
Once the 100 days thing finished, I set my Strava default to Private again. I only change to Followers if it's been a "significant" outdoor ride or run - maybe some particular route, nice photos, or to share with other participants. That just saves folks having to decide.
If anyone has the mental fortitude to spend a decent amount of time on an indoor trainer, I’ll give kudos, especially if returning from injury.
My Strava default is private. I tend not to share indoor rides as I know it annoys some. I will make public a pub ride though, because.
Kudos had relevance in the early days of Strava when KOMs were still within reach of the weekend warriors. As Strava got more popular, and there would be multiple segments on each and every road/path, one KOM wasnt enough .. they had to grab 2+ to evidence the effort.
For the last few years Strava has been filled with more and more nonsense .. commutes, dog walking .. walk to shops .. run to bus stop.
Strava is just a place to keep track of my own rides now. No kudos to anyone - they no more than likes on instagram now.
I never do .
I only upload to strava
10km minimum bien ridé
5km minimum walk.
I do for a decent distance or effort. I have noticed that some people only reciprocate for my outdoor rides. That's fine. I'm not bitter!
I'm amazed anyone has the time or inclination to vet what people are actually doing and then make a decision on kudos or not. Just give your mates kudos so they feel loved regardless of what it is. Or don't bother giving it to anyone. Its such an utterly pointless thing.
I don't give kudos for any activity I don't do myself.
So indoor rides are out. As is alpine skiing. And tiddlywinks.
If I don't know how hard/ easy something was, what worth is me giving kudos?
Plus, indoor rides are shit. 😉
indoor cycling is still cycling
WTAF?
Well ok. Cycling in a 'drome or indoor BMX track is indeed cycling, but sitting on a stationary exercise bike spinning the pedals is quite obviously not cycling.
Hard work, fruitful, unpleasant, beneficial, challenging, maybe even sometimes fun but it is categorically not cycling.
but sitting on a stationary exercise bike spinning the pedals is quite obviously not cycling.
How about on rollers? Same as riding around a velodrome but just not moving.. 😉
I am amazed people give me kudos for my 3.5km commute ?
I make commutes private. Nobody needs to see shit loads of flat trips up and down the Chester Greenway.
Give kudos to others for something outside their usual patterns or if Strava tells me it's their first activity for a while, for encouragement.
I give everyone kudos irrespective of activity.
I'm broad minded - I tend to skip through Strava at the end of the day and give kudos to most things. I probably miss a lot of indoor rides as I don't ride indoors myself so little interest, but I have a couple of friends who struggle with mental health and I make sure to give kudos to anything they do.
Dog walks on Strava what is that all about? I don’t often give kudos for an indoor ride. What I find amazing is people count indoor rides distance and elevation. What is that all about? It’s a stationary trainer for goodness sake.
I have been turbo training this week due to the amount of snow and ice. Generally turbo in the morning ski in the afternoon. Anyway my turbo bike has no speed sensor and it’s on a dumb trainer so an hour ride looks fine on the Garmin connect site with no distance or speed but on Strava it looks like a 0.2 k 2 minute ride. I wasn’t worried but received a few sarcy comments so now I just set to only I can see it.
I'll tend to give kudos to encourage people and acknowledge they've done something. There is a lady in Australia who followed me years ago and she's awesome - over retirement age and has taken up triathlon - comes basically last every time but never gives up. I'm never likely to meet her but I still respect what she does whether on a indoor trainer or outside. If me clicking a kudos button helps to give some encouragement I don't see the issue.
Not overly fussed if I get any in return from anyone BUT I have to admit I've little time for the 'indoor rides don't count' brigade. Honestly I put more effort into a Zwift race than a bimble up the road in the snow and ice trying to show off how 'hardcore' I am...
Clearly most of you have never ridden rollers. My club mate trains four hours a day on Zwift. That’s about 140 km at his pace, and don’t tend to give him kudos because it’s not going to change his training either way. I do give other riders kudos just looking at the awards per ride and duration of activity.
And Henry likes to record his Strava walks on my account. I don’t care whether he gets kudos, but I like to upload a photo or two.
I tend to only follow people I know and if they are making an effort to keep fit by whatever means then I am delighted to encourage them in any way possible. All my rides, indoor and out, autoload to Strava, as do my swim sessions. I do not record my 10-12000 steps per day of dog walking.
if any of those who follow me are annoyed by my data I would hope they would just stop following me rather than getting irate or stressed about it.
Those who refuse to give kudos for "indoor rides"....do you also refuse to give kudos for ebike rides? 😉
I do if it looks like it deserves it. The criteria on that are vague*. I've got friends who only ride indoors for various reasons. I'm a member of a e-sports team all of who I've only ever met in zwift races and Discord as we are based all over Europe. Indoor riding is a big part of the sport for me through winter. I look forward to the "Zwift Racing Season".
*I ride for fun. I think seeing something that encourages me to ride (physically impressive, inspirational) is one thing. Seeing some one else have fun is cool. Also people overcoming challenges whatever the size. Emotional to see a friend put his first ride on Zwift after he broke his back - I got loads of kudos for a walk around the block after surgery in October.
Those who refuse to give kudos for “indoor rides”….do you also refuse to give kudos for ebike rides? ?
Given that we only see rides by people we follow...... your point is clearly moot 🙂
I vary things a bit depending on the activity. There's two categories I absolutely don't give kudos for.
Golf.
Electric scooter (I know an ebiker that adds his scooter rides as ebiker).
Kudos for everything except loads of ebike rides. The odd few; I'll give kudos. If every ride is an ebike ride; no.
Not for indoor rides unless it's something truly mind-blowing.
I'll always give kudos for an activity with good photos though.
I don't give kudos to people with geared bikes - the slackers...
</sarcasm>
Those who refuse to give kudos for “indoor rides”….do you also refuse to give kudos for ebike rides?
Correct.
I generally just dish it out for whatever, there's a real mix of activities on on my feed and so yeah if my middle aged mate who's got 3 young kids and works 60hours a week squeezes a v02 max interval session in at 5am on the turbo, fair play.
I think there's a bit of a reverse dynamic thing going on as there's a super fast guy on my feed who puts in almost pro-level hours, exclusively outdoors, and regularly wins TTs, Hill Climbs races etc but he's so prolific that his activities are almost like white-noise at this point and kind of go unnoticed even though he's objectively the "best" cyclist on my feed, without question.
Not only do I not give kudos for indoor rides and the like - I tend to only follow people who curate their feeds. If you air your chaff exercise in public, you are a knob and are jettisoned from my feed. Filling other people's feed with your indoor rides, commutes to work, or 1km walk from the hotel to the cafe is only one step better than coughing up phlegm and showing the contents of your hanky to someone.
My simple rule for making activities public on Strava is if the activity is worthy of adding a photo it's interesting enough that friends and club mates might want to see it in their feed.
With the virtual death of most other social media as a usable way of keeping up with friends, I do think Strava 'could be' a brilliant advert fee way of keeping up with what people you know are up to. It just takes a tiny bit of effort for people to bother to do a touch of curating...which does seem to be beyond a lot of people - not sure if it's laziness, incompetence or narcissism. Strava could really help by just making everything private by default and make users make it public with button presses. They have enough users now that although public content would go down, I think scrolling and interaction with what is public would rise massively.
^^ goodness me… Thankfully we are not connected on Strava. Though as I said earlier I only connect with people I know personally, in general.
^^ goodness me… Thankfully we are not connected on Strava. Though as I said earlier I only connect with people I know personally, in general.
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All my rides, indoor and out, autoload to Strava, as do my swim sessions. I do not record my 10-12000 steps per day of dog walking. if any of those who follow me are annoyed by my data I would hope they would just stop following me rather than getting irate or stressed about it.
So is there a reason why you haven't been arsed to turn on making everything private by default? It's literally a one-time 5 or 6 button presses. Then you can just make public the stuff that people might actually like to see.
^^
I just record the stuff I want on there. I'd never record a half mile walk to the cafe in the first place.
Commutes, I make private although I've not done cycle commutes for ages. When I did, I had a Garmin that actually needed plugging in and manually uploading so it was easy to select "Private" before it got uploaded. Most of the reasoning behind that was security rather than "curating my feed" but I see what you mean.
I don't share my indoor rides (Zwift) or commutes because I don't think they're particularly interesting (often even to me). All activities are set to private by default and I only share my rides with followers by choice.
But at the same time I can't imagine holding as strong an opinion as some of those above on people who do choose to share BAU stuff. And I give kudos on all sorts of random stuff, ex colleagues who went for a walk (recent health issues make that seemingly 'nothing' activity of some significance) to super beings bashing out 200miles Sunday spins.
There are some snotty toss bandits using Strava it seems, good job they can 'curate' their 5 minutes doom scroll experience and not have to allow anything below the threshold of acceptability to enter their sphere of awareness...
Is Strava becoming a bit too Facebook now?
If anyone has the mental fortitude to spend a decent amount of time on an indoor trainer, I’ll give kudos,
How about this chap?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8n802pr05o
Rollers should be double kudos. You have to really pay attention all the time on rollers!
Is Strava becoming a bit too Facebook now?
Judging by some of the comments on this thread we should all be trying to make our feeds more like the Louvre
I make commutes private. Nobody needs to see shit loads of flat trips up and down the Chester Greenway.
Yeah I probably should do that but I tend to only actually log onto Strava when I do a "proper ride" now thatmy fancy Garmin watch does it all for me.
If there's one thing I'd change about Strava it's removing Kudos all together. Just tell me how awesome I am by writing "you're awesome" as a comment. I don't ride for Likes.
So is there a reason why you haven’t been arsed to turn on making everything private by default?
Get over yourself, the way you do things isn't the correct way for everyone.
Whoever "liked" my comment; I'm going to hunt you down until the end of the earth 🙂
I'm a member of my local Tri Club which is pretty large and so I see all sorts on my feed- rides, runs, swims, weights sessions and indoor or outdoor, road/trail versions of all of them.
I actually quite like it and it motivates me to get out and do more of those things myself, which I thought was kind of the point of Strava- or it is for me, anyway.
This forum trends towards "serious cyclist" (no comment) which seems to be reflected in these sorts of Strava threads whenever they arise- but I don't recall Strava being aimed solely at cycling purists or people who only care about 5hour bike rides. Surely it's for any sort of physical activity.
Not really.
In fact last year I decided to set my Strava to private, just to track my own stuff. I get a feeling now that everyone thinks I am lying when I say I've done some exercise!
I don't understand any of this. What possible difference does it make to anyone here what anyone posts on Strava and what they do or don't give kudos to? If you don't want to give kudos to a particular (or any) activity, don't do it. If someone else does how does it affect you? If people are posting activities that you think are no interest to you or not worth posting.... don't follow them.
How about this chap?
That’s legendary.
I don't think Strava would ever default to private, they've more or less admitted they have s commercial relationship with Zwift haven't they? hence why you can't mute the endless meaningless bloody squiggles filling up the feed.
I think the original comment/article was pretty tongue in cheek though, I don't believe anyone really gets upset about it either way. A lot of the activities you see are people's fitness watches auto-uploading, I doubt my old boss really knows or cares that I see his lunchtime walk to Tesco every afternoon 🙄
So is there a reason why you haven’t been arsed to turn on making everything private by default? It’s literally a one-time 5 or 6 button presses. Then you can just make public the stuff that people might actually like to see.
it’s not a case of can’t be arsed. My view is that Strava is primarily for me to look at my fitness. If others who I know wish to view it or encourage that’s entirely up to them.
your comment that you
tend to only follow people who curate their feeds. If you air your chaff exercise in public, you are a knob and are jettisoned from my feed.
really is quite bizarre. I am glad that we don’t follow each other.
Correct
You consort with eebers? Goodness me, rum do
Giving Kudos is dumb, full stop.
I am glad that we don’t follow each other.
Don't worry - never gonna happen!
I know people who just use Strava as a place to collect their exercise data....to do whatever you do with exercise data. Their watch auto uploads every time they record something and they seldom actual go on to see it. You can tell these people as the titles of their exercise is the default one strava gives it and they never write any notes. This is actually me 99% of the time too. But every now and then I'll do something that might just possibly be mildly interesting to someone who knows me - and I like to reciprocate and look at friends more interesting events too. I'll add a note or two, upload a photo from the ride/paddle/ski whatever and make it public. Otherwise by default it's set to 'only me'. It took me, oh I don't know, 20 seconds to set all my feed to 'only me' a number of years ago to make this possible.
Once you know this is possible (and so easy), to not do, is a bit like those people who post a photo of every single meal they eat like they think anyone would give a ****. You are making the conscious decision that everyone who knows you wants to know about your 400m swim in their feed. The equivalent of a photo of your beans on toast without context or comment.
The analogy does break down a bit - in Facebook to post a photo of your beans on you actually have to post it. In strava, you have to spend that 20 seconds (once) changing the default settings......and know it's possible....and care. Also - if you are logging stuff for a challenge it can't be set to 'only you'. Strava does have a 'mute' option which is pretty good as the activity remains public on your page and works for challenges but does not get put into people or your club's feed. Only snag is you have to mute the activity each and every time which is never going to happen. So my issue you is as much with the platform as it is with the users.
However - I still think it's knobish to know you don't need to clutter people's feeds with gash and still elect to do it. That or you've got no actual friends interested enough in what you do to follow you, in which case it doesn't really matter.
Strava is weird.
This thread confirms it.
I don't, but it's not in a judgy way.
I just think of the Kudos function as a "that looks cool" thing, and indoor activities never look cool.
Why does any of this matter? After all, you choose who you want to follow - nobody is forcing "you" to follow anyone who has "objectionable" Strava activities! Just unfollow them - simple!
My activities are private by default and I record all sorts of shite because they count to annual targets I've set myself for self-motivation purposes. I choose to make certain "dull" activities visible to the tiny amount of my followers, mostly cos Mrs Vlad likes to see photos of our dog out walking but I'm also in "quite competition" with a few of my old buddies who I rarely see anymore. I can't speak for them, but seeing their activities, even dull ones, helps my motivation - maybe it's reciprocal?
Strava ‘could be’ a brilliant advert fee way of keeping up with what people you know are up to
Gonna start adding pub crawls to mine then.
Why is everyone getting so het up? If you want to add kudos, add kudos. If not, then don't. If you find someone is posting too much what you think is chaff, unfollow them.
I follow people who I know, and will give them kudos for stuff that I know is contributing to their goals - so late night indoor training for the marmotte - yes. Recovery dog the next day - yes. Swim in the pool for my mate who is trying a tri - yes. Mate who i haven't seen for a while cos he's not riding much, but is obvs doing hikes for Jan - yes
Chillax people.....
Or golf
Can you get kudos for curating?
There would be some pretty big hitters on this thread.
I only give Kudos on rides IRL....
However – I still think it’s knobish to know you don’t need to clutter people’s feeds with gash and still elect to do it. That or you’ve got no actual friends interested enough in what you do to follow you, in which case it doesn’t really matter.
just as well the world is made up of different types of people and varying opinions really..
Never heard of it until recently until some mates starting giving it to me. Why FFS. It's my usual 10 mile commute that takes nearly an hour. Hardly worth saying well done for. Maybe , "You fat old git might be better".
It's just yet another modern fad where everyone has to be special. Twaddle
For no other reason than my own personal amusement I never give kudos for parkrun.
I only give kudos for more than normal if that makes sense,
Occasionally I do the reverse. A friend (super strong rider, many long/fast/hilly rides, many KOMs) will occasionally post a 1/2 mile ride to the beach or something so everyone piles on with kudos and deliberately OTT comments.
Awesome ride mate, you'll have to let us know your nutrition and training tips!
Epic ride, smashed it out the park!
He gets more kudos and comments on those ones than he does on yet another sub-4hr, 80-mile smashfest.
Me not too.
Only for MTB rides. Cos that’s all I think is worth a high five.
All mine are set to Private default and I change only my mtb rides to Followers. No one wants to see my daily commutes. If Strava had an option to only store certain things I’d use it. Getting kudos is quite nice too.
Garmin connect has all the good stuff and raw data. Stats Stats Stats.
I am generous with it. Anyone breaking into a sweat by voluntarily undertaking a physical activity in their free time is streets ahead of most of the population sat on their arses watching telly. It's easy to forget that on here, or if you are uber athletic and only mix with very fit people irl. For a lot of us, it's a bit of an effort! So a virtual "good effort mate" can be a bit of a boost. Costs nowt and is easy to ignore by those that think it's twee. Most of my less than super fit mates and family seem to appreciate it.
When I first saw the title of this thread I thought to myself 'do people not have more to worry about than whether or not to give somebody kudos'. Then I read peoples replies and I'm openly disgusted about how many of you think it's okay to judge people and decide whether their activity is deemed good enough to earn your recognition or not. I'm tempted to sign up for a completely different platform just so I don't have to be anywhere near that level of god complex. If anybody follows me and gets annoyed by my dog walks or heaven forbid occasional ebike rides feel free to stop following me because I think my life would be so much better without you!
Do you know if anyone actually looks at your activity. Auto kudos has put me off along with all the challenges getting easier. Strava just links to Veloviewer and I am happy, also decided to cancel subscription.
(Yes, I know some people take Strava too seriously).
Yes they do seem to don't they? 😮
Not only do I not give kudos for indoor rides and the like – I tend to only follow people who curate their feeds. If you air your chaff exercise in public, you are a knob and are jettisoned from my feed. Filling other people’s feed with your indoor rides, commutes to work, or 1km walk from the hotel to the cafe is only one step better than coughing up phlegm and showing the contents of your hanky to someone.
I guess I never realised people take some things so seriously that I see as a bit of a fun.
It’s my usual 10 mile commute that takes nearly an hour. Hardly worth saying well done for.
Find it difficult to believe, if you do that 5 days a week all year round, that you never have days where it's just a massive chore, riding home in the dark, in the cold, getting rained on, legs tired, cars close passing you, after a stressful day at work? If that's nothing but water off a ducks back to you... are you a machine? It doesn't ever leave you too tired for things you actually enjoy? Pah, well, we all have different capabilities, but still, I'm grateful that I'm more able than many people.
I give kudos moslty to people who post nice piccies regardless of how hard or easy the ride/walk/run was. Also if they come up with an amusing title. And particularly if the activity features a particularly happy-looking dog frolicking in the snow.
Sometimes I just click the little thumb thing because it's a mate who's not been out for a while and I'm pleased to see them doing stuff.
I'm not arrogant enough to think people are fascinated by my rides indoor or out. The whole thing of making stuff 'private' unless it's 'K2 without supplementary oxygen in winter' mystifies me, but most I use Strava to keep track of my own riding and see what more distant mates are up to.
I don't really care about kudos one way or another tbh. I see it as a sort of casual, virtual 'nice one' thing rather than an expression of undying admiration and awe at the sheer splendour of someone's upload, which is probably where things get a bit tangled. YMMV.
I follow people who I know, and will give them kudos for stuff that I know is contributing to their goals –
This.....
I follow people who Strava dog walks, I never do, but if I get to see a pic of a dog they will get some kudos, it is also a quirk of them, the person I am friends with, which is why I follow them. Why would I think they are filling "my feed" with trash.
I did think of another category I never given Kudos for and that's the few Pro cyclists I follow, don't know why.
I would also add that I never even look at who or how much kudos I get on rides, I really don't think giving or recieving it is worth getting bothered about.
do you also refuse to give kudos for ebike rides
No, but there’s one local whose rides I always flag as e-bike rides as he uploads them as normal MTB rides ?
Hardly worth saying well done for. Maybe , “You fat old git might be better”.
There's comments too for friendly ribbing. Bet some of you don't do that either
I post dog walks too, with pics sometimes, but i notice anagallis arvensis hasn't been giving me kudos. Barsteward 😉
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I post dog walks too, with pics sometimes, but i notice anagallis arvensis hasn’t been giving me kudos. Barsteward ?
Depends on the type of dog, lurcher, greyhounds and whippets always get kudos, French Bulldogs can do one ?