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Now you've been on your summer foreign holibobs, is it time for this again yet?
Just wanted to check, like. Wouldn't want to outrage forum morality and all that.
Not quite... we're still doing Swinley and FoD which are not cycling distance from home. But we're certainly not hitting Wales etc.
Now you’ve been on your summer foreign holibobs
Starting with wild assumption.
Wouldn’t want to outrage forum morality and all that.
Closing with passive-aggressiveness.
U OK hun?
Of course. thats what I have been doing since the start including my one and only holiday this year ( well 50 miles in a car twice!)
Lots of assumptions from the troll - bad enough having restrictions back without the accompanying threads...
I prefer the doggers version.
No car, not far, no bra
Just do what you want mate, no one will notice or care. It's up to you whether you follow the local restrictions in your area.
But yeah, let's get everyone arguing about it, that will do us all some good.
No. I'm making up my own rules then getting angry at anyone who doesn't follow them, but only in a passive aggressive way.
Wouldn’t want to outrage forum morality and all that.
Closing with passive-aggressiveness.
U OK hun?
This place is full of delicate little flowers to be fair.
As far as I'm aware theres been a worldwide pandemic going on in this country since March. In that time I've driven somewhere to ride my bike twice - once to the edge of the Yorkshire Moors (an hour drive) and once to Hebden one evening (15 min drive). Apart from that everything has and will continue to be from my doorstep.
As far as I’m aware theres been a worldwide pandemic going on in this country since March. In that time I’ve driven somewhere to ride my bike twice – once to the edge of the Yorkshire Moors (an hour drive) and once to Hebden one evening (15 min drive). Apart from that everything has and will continue to be from my doorstep.
Pffffttt, I've not driven anywhere to ride*, you absolute psychopath, think of the elderly Mail readers you were putting at risk, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*This is actually true, my car got written off just as the lockdown was eased, hard to drive anywhere to ride in the Midget! I now have a Berlingo which would be perfect for trips away and socially distanced stealth camping. Which obviously means we'll be locked down again next week, you're all welcome!
Ive carried on as normal, apart from the trail centers / places that were closed. Did more local stuff as I was working from home more, but otherwise its not changed much for me.
The one thing I did enjoy were the empty roads, which seem to be getting busy again now 🙁
No idea why but the word hollibobs grates on me a bit
That's because you are spelling it with two 'l's.
I didn't get a holiday, foreign or otherwise, unless you count a week off at home. I've been to Swinley once and otherwise road from home, nothing gnar.
Same as every other year really.
Nope, frankly all the rules are complex enough without trying to follow others that someone decided were a good idea based on their own circumstances.
It’s up to you whether you follow the local restrictions in your area.
Eh? It's really not.
Who would stop him? I'm not saying it would be right for him to ignore restrictions, but realistically no one will notice or prevent him from doing so.
Not this again. Questions:
- Why does taking your bike somewhere in the car make any difference to the epidemic
- No gnar, suppose everyone should stop doing anything remotely dangerous then? There are hundreds of activities people voluntarily do that are more acutely dangerous than cycling.
- Not far again why, as long as you are following the rules on social distancing, you could ride 100 miles from home and would not be risking passing a virus on.
It’s up to you whether you follow the local restrictions in your area.
And remind me why we're in the current situation again (outside of the fact that Bojo and his mates are incompetent imbeciles)?
Because people decide whether they want to follow the rules and the rules are largely unenforced/unenforceable?
To be clear, I'm not advocating breaking the rules. It would be great if everyone stuck to them but that would be unrealistic.
Not this again. Questions:
– Why does taking your bike somewhere in the car make any difference to the epidemic
– No gnar, suppose everyone should stop doing anything remotely dangerous then? There are hundreds of activities people voluntarily do that are more acutely dangerous than cycling.
– Not far again why, as long as you are following the rules on social distancing, you could ride 100 miles from home and would not be risking passing a virus on.
Exactly!
It’s always been more about virtue signalling and self righteousness - both things this forum, unfortunately, has in abundance.
JP
I did a week riding in Finale Ligure, just before the EWS was there.
It was fantastic.
went far, was blooming gnar (in places)
but.... Took a plane and a train tho, so no car.
Wasn't the no car bit linked to not being able to use the car other than for toilet-roll hunting? Pretty sure that's not a rule right now unless you live in bits of Wales.
I just feel bad for the poor sods whose only treat this year has been a visit to Swinley.
My door's always open if you need somebody to talk to.
– Why does taking your bike somewhere in the car make any difference to the epidemic
Because say you lived in Liverpool, driving to Llandegla would be potentially taking the virus to those areas where it isn't currently prevalent.
– No gnar, suppose everyone should stop doing anything remotely dangerous then? There are hundreds of activities people voluntarily do that are more acutely dangerous than cycling.
Because when the hospital's are busy they won't have the resources to deal with cuts bruises and broken bones.
– Not far again why, as long as you are following the rules on social distancing, you could ride 100 miles from home and would not be risking passing a virus on.
See point 1. And by virtue of the fact that you want to go there, in all likelihood so do a lot of people. That's why places ended up shut even for locals (even Swinley) because people had nothing better to do than drive somewhere to ride their bike or walk their dog, and inevitably those places ended up packed.
Because say you lived in Liverpool, driving to Llandegla would be potentially taking the virus to those areas where it isn’t currently prevalent.
Non-issue if you maintain social distancing where you go. If you drive to a woods somewhere near where you live and ride your bike, seeing nobody else in the process then what harm has been caused?
Because when the hospital’s are busy they won’t have the resources to deal with cuts bruises and broken bones.
We know now that this isnt an issue. Hospital A&E facilities were almost empty for months during the first lockdown. I know this first hand because I'm friends with quite a few nurses and do contracting for nhs estates. By that logic you would also propose to ban anything dangerous then? A&E is mostly taken up by people have have consumed too much alcohol on a typical night.
See point 1. And by virtue of the fact that you want to go there, in all likelihood so do a lot of people. That’s why places ended up shut even for locals (even Swinley) because people had nothing better to do than drive somewhere to ride their bike or walk their dog, and inevitably those places ended up packed.
So ask people to go somewhere quieter when a certain place is too busy. Again, this is not a valid argument for a blanket ban on people taking their bicycle to their local woods in their car.
So ask people to go somewhere quieter when a certain place is too busy.
Who's going to do the asking? Are the police going to stand in Llandegla village waving on Scousers to carry on to Coed Y Brenin? You'd need someone at every single parking spot around here to divert all the dog walkers.
Much easier just to say "don't be a dick, stay at/near home".
Not yet. Car and far are still ok unless you live in Liverpool at the time of writing. Gnar is ok too imho as there hasn’t yet been an increase in emergency activity that would cause a problem should the worse happen
Contrary to popular opinion it is very possible to travel 100 miles without stopping at the services for a piss and a burger king, going into the kiosk to pay for petrol and having a chat with random dog walkers when you arrive at your destination.
Even at the notorious hotspots such as Swinley and Peaslake on a Saturday you can quite easily mind your own business, they are very large places once you leave the car park. Even if you spend 5 seconds overtaking another cyclist it cannot even begin to compare to the risk of 6 individuals from different households going to the pub.
Of course I will abide by any new local measures but I'm not going to make a self-imposed fruitless sacrifice that will in no way make any difference to the transmission of the virus.
Who’s going to do the asking? Are the police going to stand in Llandegla village waving on Scousers to carry on to Coed Y Brenin? You’d need someone at every single parking spot around here to divert all the dog walkers.
Much easier just to say “don’t be a dick, stay at/near home”.
Why is that so hard to implement when theres a global pandemic going on and billions being spent on a useless track and trace system?
Sorry but I refuse to accept lazy, easy option blanket measures that worsen our quality of life for a few years where sensible proportionate and arguably more effective measures could be implemented.
For what it's worth, what you've described there is one of the things local authorities have been asking the government for funding to try and arrange at a local level.
Well, we moved in the middle of all this, and have loads of riding at our doorstep now. In fact i'm just about to head out now for a blat 🙂
No car - well we went to Scotland to ride. No car though, we took our van. Certainly lots of gnar & we were pretty much out, all day, every day riding.
There is plenty of gnar in the local, some of which I shall be sampling in the next 30 minutes.
I'm back doing the same old local loops as Cardiff is in local lockdown. There's nothing stopping me taking the car to drive to the local woods but as it's only 4 miles away I may as well ride there and back for extra exercise.
Did do a few trips to Windhill, Tidworth and a ride near Bath with mates in the summer while we were allowed out but avoided anything in weekends, meant I was able to reasonably control who I met and interacted with. Would love to go to Antur tomorrow as two mates are going, one who I haven't seen for 2 years as he lives abroad but put my sensible hat on so I'm staying put.
I fear a full re-run of the restrictions we had back in April/May isn't far away so if you can safely go somewhere and enjoy yourself I would while you can.
are we back to the misassumption of only "1 hour of exercise a day" yet or not?
are we back to the misassumption of only “1 hour of exercise a day” yet or not?
I've been trying to work out where this misunderstanding came from but so far drawing a blank. Social media perhaps? As you say hopefully people dont start with it again.
I’ve been trying to work out where this misunderstanding came from but so far drawing a blank. Social media perhaps? As you say hopefully people dont start with it again.
I believe it was a soundbite from a Politician who wanted to clarify the usual "whatabout" questions from the public and media.
It might have come out of Wales, our leaders MO was to make fairly broad announcements and then try to cover the details with a press release the next day.
It wasn't hard to work out the spirit of the rules, but people were, and are always looking for a loophole to justify what they were going to do anyway.
As far as I’m aware theres been a worldwide pandemic going on in this country since March. In that time I’ve driven somewhere to ride my bike twice – once to the edge of the Yorkshire Moors (an hour drive) and once to Hebden one evening (15 min drive). Apart from that everything has and will continue to be from my doorstep.
The Homelander would be proud.
I’ve been trying to work out where this misunderstanding came from but so far drawing a blank.
Gove said...
"I would have thought that for most people, a walk of up to an hour, or a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness is appropriate."
the key part being the level of fitness of course but when the vast majority of people get the car out to fetch the paper from the newsagent 2 minutes walk away a cycle of up to one hour is a heroic endeavor they'd stand outside and bang on a saucepan to congratulate
molgrips
Free MemberIt’s up to you whether you follow the local restrictions in your area.
Eh? It’s really not.
Boris Johnston says you have to follow the legal restrictions, other than that it's up to you. Shouldn't be like this, but is. Literally everything this government does is to weaken their own responses. It's good parenting to break the rules, remember?
airvent
Free MemberNot this again. Questions:
– Why does taking your bike somewhere in the car make any difference to the epidemic
Because you may be going from a place that has cases, to one that doesn't. Or vice versa. Localisation reduces spread. You can say "but what if I follow social distancing", that's not 100% proof and doesn't cover accidents/errors. If you crash, will you refuse to have anyone within 2 metres? Even if you just pop to the shops you can't completely enforce social distancing because there are other dickheads around.
There's no such thing as completely safe or completely dangerous but everything's less safe when you do it out of your normal stamping ground. The odds of your one ride making a difference are tiny but then the odds of just about everything in this are tiny, it's just that the dice get rolled millions of times.
airvent
Free MemberI’ve been trying to work out where this misunderstanding came from but so far drawing a blank. Social media perhaps?
Michael Gove being a) a ****, b) completely unconcerned about the truth, c) being so arrogant and so disregarding of good governance that he just made up a response on the spot and d) unfit and lazy. And also e), a ****
There’s no such thing as completely safe or completely dangerous but everything’s less safe when you do it out of your normal stamping ground. The odds of your one ride making a difference are tiny but then the odds of just about everything in this are tiny, it’s just that the dice get rolled millions of times.
And that results in a few Mountain Rescue Team callouts, which take place outdoors.
Meanwhile there's a huge benefit to mental and physical wellbeing of people being able to pursue healthy outdoor activities.
I think this particular ship has sailed.
Contrary to popular opinion it is very possible to travel 100 miles without stopping at the services
Possible, yes. But you're effectively saying that the best line of defence is the intelligence and conscientiousness of the general public. Which, let's face it, is a bit daft!
People cannot be trusted to be sensible and careful, which is why we have lockdowns. Yes, it sucks, but don't whine about it. And complain to your MP about lack of support for businesses.
Meanwhile there’s a huge benefit to mental and physical wellbeing of people being able to pursue healthy outdoor activities.
there is but with a bit of imagination you can do this in your local area
Foreign holiday? Does a midweek day trip to Cwmcarn (when Wales was open) count?
there is but with a bit of imagination you can do this in your local area
I'd have to be very imaginative to make the slag heaps feel like the Lake District.
But seriously, perhaps I could - but it's an artificial and unnecessary restriction. And a distraction from what's really needed ATM.