[Closed] NEWWWWWBLLLUUEEEEE bike thread. Whyte T130SX

Looks amazing.

FWIW I'd have in my head that the large may be better suited even if this feels right...difficult position to be in.

Oh and get some fibrax or similar on the cables by the headtube before going out and letting them rub the frame!

Test ride, it all feels BRILLIANT... really nice... plush, fast handling....

It sounds from that that all you really need to change is the sticker 🙂

Ummmmmm. Problem number 2 has appeared too...

The CTD on the rear shock does absolutely nothing at all... Nada.... same on all 3 settings... Which has pretty much sealed this particular bikes fate potentially.

How dirty is that mat? 🙄

So, today is the day... the new

Do you have a revolving door on your garage? 🙂

I tell the wife, it's time to worry when i swap women like a swap motorbikes/bicycles, until then, be happy.

Does anyone else understand why we're getting pictures of the underside of a bike? Are these the same photos that'll be used in the For Sale thread?

why didn't you just add to the other thread you started?

A mate has had the same CTD issue on his Bronson, on his 3rd shock in about a dozen rides

I didn't use the same thread as that was the Kona leaving thread, so thought it would be easier if someone were searching for a Whyte thread in the course of time to find it.

Interestingly, the CTD issue you don't actually get when riding the bike, it's only when bouncing on it in the garage, when riding it, it does indeed react as you'd expect, not locking it out as such, but certainly stiffer and less bob.

They're long bikes so it might feel like you can get away with a smaller size, but my suggestion would be to get the 'correct' size and take advantage of the long reach. I'm 185cm and running a 40mm stem and 780mm bars on a large and it feels fantastic.

I'm settled on keeping it. It just feels exactly right. It's not impossible that the Large would feel better... but it's not impossible it would feel too bulky.

Either way... it's now locked up and put away safe and sound for a test ride on Sunday at Swinley.

I'd go for the medium but I'm 5'8"/172cm.

Nice Yeti

Test ride, it all feels BRILLIANT... really nice... plush, fast handling....

a test ride on Sunday at Swinley.

So what was the first test ride that convinced you it was good?

So what was the first test ride that convinced you it was good?

Just here in the close... nothing techincal 🙂

I can't really take it out, thrash it round the local trails and then send it back as the wrong size... It's either accept it for what it is or send it back. I'm happy that it feels correct. I moved the seat back a bit and i'm happy with the riding position both seated and standing. So there's not a lot else to think.

I've a large T-130s, and that doesn't feel overly large IMHO
a 50mm Thomson, and 780 Renthals, its seems spotty dog..

Love it.

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Personally Id send it back get a large sent out

speak to them nicely, if you dont like the large you can always ask for a medium as you know they have one in stock!

The colour is lovely.

TBH I could/can barely tell the difference in rear shock mode on either my Reign or Covert - both Fox

Size ... mmm that's tough, imo it's easier to make a medium larger - stem, saddle, seat post etc but if you did order a medium you must have done for a reason

[i]Interestingly, the CTD issue you don't actually get when riding the bike[/i]

Interested to know how you thought bouncing it in the garage was going to show CTD working..!
Didn't do the garage bounce test on mine - but riding its very noticeable. Works a treat.

Interested to know how you thought bouncing it in the garage was going to show CTD working..!
Didn't do the garage bounce test on mine - but riding its very noticeable. Works a treat.

Dunno really... seemed like a reasonable assumption i'd be able to notice the difference

The guy i spoke to at JE JAmes when i was going to order one of theirs did ask me to check some geomtry settings as they 'come up large' so he informed me.. How true that is, i don't really know.

I've just cheekily called Banjo Cycles in Newbury who have a newer one in stock in a Large... I wonder if it's worth shooting over and trying it.

Re: Size
The only thing I would say is that in the second pic in the OP the seat position makes a bike that it meant to be long/low/slack look pretty short/tall/steep.
So I would go large.

Then if the stem is as long as the one on that pic, I would shorten it to suit.

1. The seat has been moved back from pic above, it was just where it ended up being fitted when throwing it on.

2. The stem on the large is 70mm the same as the stem on the Medium.

2. The stem on the large is 70mm the same as the stem on the Medium.

But everyone's different on bike fit. That's just what I would do.

I really don't understand how Whyte manage to create such a good value bike [i][b]and[/b][/i] sell through LBSs. It's impressive.

Yeah, just shoot over to Banjos.
You'll end up talking to John no doubt. Really really nice chap- just explain the situation, I'm sure he won't mind. He's a hell of a salesman though, so be careful of walking away with another one 😆

Yeah, CTD is a bit pants, its more D/D+/DMax.
Or bump up the air pressure big time and you get C/T-/T
Being efficient for climbing and using full travel descending seem mutually exclusive.

Did the geometry change from the 2015 to 2016/2017 models? I'm sure medium bikes came with a 50mm stem.

Being spec'd with a 70mm stem implies to me that the reach is shorter on the older bikes. Would a large with a 50mm stem (or shorter) not be more 'Enduro' 🙂

Well, I'm not sure that helped. Went to Banjo cycles and sat on both the medium and large. Apparently from an angles perspective the large looks correct. But I have to say, the medium felt better.

Great lads and very patient considering I wasn't buying anything.

Well, I've taken a rather radical route and bought another one. This time in a large large, so when that arrives I decide which to keep and send one back

You like buying bikes almost as much as Robin Williams did 🙂

So, I scrapped that plan after sitting on the Medium again and cancelled the large.

Took it out on a few trails today, yeah, its brilliant just brilliant. It handles great, turns quickly, picks up speed quickly and is soft and plush.

Timings wise I set a few Strava PRs which is always great. One long climb I did on weds afternoon also on the Parkwood and I was 8s slower today, which could be fatigue, a couple of rpm, good day, bad day, its close enough though.

But I just really like the way it rides in a way I never got at all with the Kona, I was never happy in same way.

Quite interested in your experiences re size as I've been mulling one of these or an orange 4, but reckon I'm in between sizes on both models. Both are miles longer than my current ( med) Spearfish, albeit I run an 80mm stem on that. Think you had a Spearfish... What size was it?

Spearfish was a large with I think about a 50mm stem. I had another fish too which was also a large. Both were big, but not massive. The large t130 I sat on just felt really big.

I've a large T-130s, and that doesn't feel overly large IMHO
a 50mm Thomson, and 780 Renthals, its seems spotty dog..
Love it.

At this point it would be very, very handy to know how tall you are. Otherwise this information is completely useless.

I would love to know how tall he is , as I am 6' 2" and planning on getting a XL ....
33 inch or so inseam

Don't forget lads, mine is a 15 so different to the 16-17.

Tricky technical question.

My front wheel is 15mm axle. However its nothing like I've ever seen before. There's no thread! I have a spacer on end of axle and a compression fit spider thing. When you push in the spacer, it pushes the arms in and you can pull it out.
Problem is, my spare wheels don't allow the axle to be pulled out, it gets stuck on the fork leg at the far end. You can use something to poke it in and release it, but that's clearly not great.

Any ideas as to the solution? Apart from carrying something long and pointy of course.

Apologies all, I'm 5.11" with a 31" inseam..

Im 6'2" and ride an XL 2016 T130S with 50mm stem and 800mm bars, find it a great fit size wise.

Find the front end a bit low hence looking for a stem with higher rise but reach etc is spot on. Have fitted a 170mm Reverb with ease.

@weeksy the 15mm axle on suntour fork's is called q-loc ,you need to turn that spacer thing a 1\4 turn whilst it's pushed in that will lock it place so you can remove it from the fork without it catching

Ooooh. Thank you.

Do I need to do anything when installing it? Currently I've held the end so it tightens then used the lever to close/lock.

Edit, cheers, watched YouTube video

I'm settled on keeping it. It just feels exactly right

I give it 2 weeks

why didn't you just add to the other thread you started?

Which one?

#hypocrite 😆

Apologies all, I'm 5.11" with a 31" inseam..

Yours a 2015 or 2016 one mate? I'm the exact same measurements as you so fingers crossed you've got the year of one I'm looking at!

Did 40km out on it today, still feels brilliant

Yours a 2015 or 2016 one mate? I'm the exact same measurements as you so fingers crossed you've got the year of one I'm looking at!

2017 mate....

Love it.

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No idea where you are, but if yer anywhere near Cheshire you're more than welcome to give it a spin...

Yeah that went well! Swinley today. Bike is great round there, jumpy and fast, really easy to pick up the front etc for roots. Great on the way down.
We didn't do many dedicated routes, mostly went over the old school swinley stuff, ace fun.

Well either the Whyte is faster, or i am faster... Maybe a combination of both possibly. But my times today were a lot quicker than either the Parkwood or the Kona. So pretty happy with that. I only tried on a couple of sections as mostly me and Crust were fannying about and practicing a few skills, drops, jumps, etc. But i did well on them anyway.

One thing that shocked us was how many Whytes are at Swinley, apparently the Bike Hub hire some, but still, it was almost like every 3rd bike was a Whyte, T130s, T129, etc etc... Everywhere !

Is it racing next week?

Good QN mate, if we race, yes I'll be on it.

We have 3 options currently for Sunday

1. Gorrick
2. CX
3. Mallory park on zx6r with mates.

My little lad has been away for the last week, so not discussed yet what he wants to do.

I fancy gorrick though as its been a while since I've been this fast, well, fast in my world anyway. Zwift has a lot to answer for

Well remarkably I didn't crash at all and had just a brilliant day. I did 5 runs and then called it quits , Beanie carried on after I'd left and put in 3 more.

I don't mind telling you now, I was deeply worried about hitting BPW again, literally hitting. Apart from 1 occasion I'd crashed there every time and twice proper spannered myself with broken bones. I'd even go as far as to say it kept me awake last night, so much so I got on the road at 5am despite not setting my alarm until 6.15.

First run was quite tame, nice bits of blue and getting into the swing of things, feeling the tyres moving about in the dew/damp and getting used to how the bike reacts etc. I was unhappy with my camelback as it affects the balance etc of the bike

Then moved onto mostly more of the same with a few reds thrown in for the odd section.

The fact my strava times for Terrys belly which is a 12-14 min trail went down by nearly 2 min over the day massively pleased me. Along with doing a couple of things that slightly freaked me out on the trails also pleased me.

Beanie was awesome and I simply can't match him for speed or skill, but I enjoyed watching him looking very smooth.

Stopped in the pub on way home for a well earned beer!

I'm a happy boy, it was a fantastic day out and reminds me of why I love riding mountain bikes!

TerrysB into Hotstepper is a great trail route if you want to practice drops btw, with lots of small manageable ones and a few optional bigger ones!

The trick with BPW is deffo to start slow and work up, not start fast and crash whilst your still trying to work out how to ride the place! We were there on Friday and a nasty little cross wind made A470 a little sketchy in places, and just hitting it flat out and letting it fly could have had serious consequences....

I didn't want to risk hotstepper without knowing a bit more. First time I've seen it. I'll watch videos and see when we book a new date.

Hotstepper is fine as long as you do a sighting run first before letting rip. There are a couple of tight rooty shoots down between trees, and a man made rock garden that has 3 lines through it (right line no drop, mid line 3 small steps, left line bigger single drop) and lots of single large rock drop off, probably about 4 to 12" tall, just about rollable but not elegantly, so better to be sent off for smoothness.

Nothing too serious really!

Weeksy were you up there today? I went up for the first time. Shame sixtapod was closed but did the blues and most of the reds. Loved A470 and insufficient funds although did feel the latter was a step up over the other reds I did.

Yes stu, on the light blue whyte t130

I didn't brave a470 as to be honest I didn't quite have the balls for the qualifier into vicious valley. I know its loads easier than it look from certain angles, but I'm sick of being busted up and just wanted to get off there alive ha ha.

I did do wibbly wobbly though and a couple of other reds I forget.

Sixtapod is one of my favourite trails too!

I noticed down the bottom on Norkle there increased the profile on the hills making many more of them a bit more jumpy.

I thought the trails due to erosion and wear are a lot trickier than days gone by. Just a few more rocks, roots etc a bit more exposed.

All that said, it was brilliant!

Perfect day there, considering it's November too. Thanks for the pass, i managed to ride everything except sixtapod as it was closed, 50 shades as it's above my level and the full red with a470 on it as I ran off of time with the late start and long dinner break. Slippery in places, especially t.b

I thought TB was running great, managed to hack chunks off my times on the later runs, though that was likely down to me getting more confident in the bike/world etc.

My pleasure on the pass... it would have only gone to waste and that's silly.

The "qualifier" on VV can now be rolled** off, since they build the landing height right up towards the wooden stage you ride off. When they first built it, yes, you had to pop it but now, just ride off it you'll be fine!

** Well it can on my XL Dune! 😉

I know I know!

Decided to change things about a little bit. the pedal strikes on the Whyte were a minor issue, so i swapped over the 170mm cranks from the Parkwood to the Whyte. Removed the shifter and gear cabling etc, so it's now running true 1x10 setup.

It also looks a lot nicer as the chainring is a bit prettier on the dedicated 1x10 Raceface Ride cranks.

I'm still undecided on the Parkwood setup for the cranks, so i've currently left both the chainrings on there for now until i decide. Ordinarily i'd feel i don't need the smaller ring, but i'm debating the SPAM ride in Dec which has a couple of climbs where if i recall correctly i could really do with the smaller ring. So i may leave the small chainring on there for now, fit the shifter and mech for that event and then see where we go from there. The only minor downside is that the Parkwood is now running without a chainguide (but does have a clutch mech) so could potentially drop the chain i guess.

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oh you genius ! Linky 🙂

edit...found it... £15 !!!!!

this ones more, but much better value!

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These ones are cheaper and will do the job fine 🙂

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weeksy

Beanie was awesome and I simply can't match him for speed or skill, but I enjoyed watching him looking very smooth.

Think you were watching somebody else 'cos I wasn't smooth. I do however appreciate the compliment.

Does anyone know what height the new drops are on Insufficient Funds? First time I've done drops of any kind (thanks Jedi!) and am keen to use them as a reference point for some of the stuff in the Surrey Hills.

id say about 18" to 20" vetical face, but they are pretty much all on down slopes, so if you pop them to the landings, the drop is probably over 2 foot (ish)

Today the chance finally came to whip the bike apart, due to having Gorrick and BPW i didn't want to risk losing the dropper to warranty until i had an opportune moment. I've now not got anything pressing for a few weeks, so pulled the seatpost out.

You've then got 2 grub screws that release the mechanism to actuate the cable, whipped that off and squished the post, nothing.... no movement at all. This is good news of course and tells me that the post is capable of staying firm.

I tried to fiddle with the current cable, but IMO it was past it's best due to the way it has to be bent/wangled to get the stealth post fitted back in the frame. So i grabbed one of my 1.1mm cables that i ordered last week. (all of my other cables are 1.2mm which is apparently too large). Fitted the new cable, set the tension and either using guesswork or pure luck, maybe a slight bit of mechanical knowledge, i have now got a seatpost that no longer has any sag. I guess it was just a tiny tiny bit too tight, so just pushing on the actuator enough that it gives that little bit of sag..

It does return a little slowly now which i may need to tweak a bit, but i can live with the speed if i get rid of the sag.

The end of any cable rattle!

Ant+ remote dropper post.

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Is that one of the Magura ones? Clever 🙂

I'm lusting after a T130 right now.

Yups one of them mate.

Winstanleys have 2015 and 2016s for £1399 £1499.

Post works great, happy, downy, super lovely.

As per reviews, there is a slight pause as it activates etc, but that's ok.

Cracking day out on the Whyte today. Went to Afan with Crust. As always on our winter excursions, it was snowy and cold... but a lack of wind meant it was absolutely ACE !

The climb up was at a fairly sedate pace as Crust was struggling after a recent bout of snotty cold. But the trails were running great, despite being a smattering of snow.

On the way down the Whyte was flying along, picking it's way through the trail with ease... I was carrying speed that at times i was thinking "Jeez mate, slow down, i'm not sure we're actually in control here" but managed to get down happily. Despite the odd stop to check on my wingman, i still set a fair few Strava PR's including a couple of sections i didn't wait on, i was 30s-60s down in time compared to when i went at the end of Dec. Most of this was down to me having someone with me this time, so wasn't really holding back as much as when i was on my own on Xmas eve 🙂

End of the day we tried the newly taken over Cafe at the Afan visitors center... WOW, it's a million times better than any other incarnations over the years.. the bacon and sausage was stunning... the cake was great.

Lots of laughs, smiles and good natured banter... Only downside was my nice Pringle shaped front wheel that now needs re-truing, for some reason i must have given it a wallop somewhere on the last section, it's all over the place now ! Happily, i have another wheel which is ready with a new WTB Vigilante fitted, so that's now on the bike and we're good to go again.

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Over at Biking Andalucia recently i was SO SO impressed with just how much the T-130 flattered me as a rider, it was capable of things i didn't actually think i could get down, and now thinking back about it, i'm astounded i actually managed some of the trails there i got to the bottom of. More than once over the week i almost crashed massively, but the Whyte wouldn't let me ! I really can't think of a better bike for me as a rider once it gets to technical riding !

Since getting back from Spain i've had to take the first week off, my legs were just rubbish, really really rubbish, tight, stiff, achey and when i actually did try a ride they simply didn't work !

After 5 days resting i got back out and managed to start putting in the miles again.

I had to take my standard WTB i25 wheel to my LBS to be re-trued as it was all over the place after Spain... He met me with brutal honesty as always, it's not the first time i've taken this wheel to him and his words were "it's bent again because it's a rubbish wheel.... stop messing about and buy a Hope"

So, that was ordered 🙂 In ORANGE to go with my KTM fetish of course.

Picked up the new Hope Pro4 today from Rotec Cycles, the LBS owner persuaded me into a 'wide rim' and sheesh, it's certainly that ! the thing is HUGE, i was almost tempted to fit it to my KTM ! Spent 20 mins taping it up for tubeless and threw a tyre on and a tube for an hour just to seat and bed in the tape, then a quick session with the Airshot, a glug of Stans and it's up and tubeless. I was possibly slightly disappointed that even with a decent weight Maxxis Crossmark II on there it's still no lighter than the stock wheel, but arguably i bought it for it's strength and durability rather than it's weight. Taking my wheels to be trued after every hard ride was getting silly, so hopefully this will negate that issue.

Plus, it's pretty 🙂

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Weesky I've enjoyed reading both this post and the Andalucia post. In fact it was the T30 that sparked my interest in both posts.
Iv'e been looking at getting one of these for a while now. Held off because I have been nursing an injury and couldn't justify it to mrs asbrooks.
Now I'm just about right to get back on the bike. Looking at the sizing, Being 5'10 with 31" inside leg, I'm right bang in the middle. I currently ride a size 18 inbred with a 60mm stem. I have a 100mm dropper post which is the maximum I can get away with because of the seat tube.
Wondering how it sizes up, you seem to like the medium. Not wanting to get personal, [s]what are you vital statistics?[/s] what's your height and inside leg length? 😉

I'm 6'0 and inside leg is 32". Apparently mine is too small for me.. It's certainly a chunk smaller than the Parkwood in an L i also ride, but i don't know, it just feels right for me. Even in an XC context which i give it plenty of use for. My riding mate has the same bike and is 4" shorter than me.
I guess if you look at pics of my post i'm running it quite long, but with a 150mm dropper i wouldn't want to be any shorter than 5'8 or you're not going to be able to get the seat low enough at full extension.
Don't forget, mine is a 2015 which is different to the more modern ones. But you can still buy the 15 at Winstanleys.

Asbrooks, no idea where in the world you are, but if yer anywhere near Cheshire, you're welcome to try mine..
It's a Large 2017..
50mm Stem, 780 Renthals.
Spotty Dog for me at 5.11"

Teetosugars, thanks for the offer. I'm in Leicesteshire. Cheshire is a bit too far for me. Thanks again 🙂

May be argued it's insanity to re-cable the lovely internally routed cabling outside, but on the trails the cable rattle really bugged me !

So after a wait from China, i got the cable guides and pulled out the cables, fitted a new gear inner, a bleed on the brakes along with a new Olive as i wouldn't have been able to get all the olive/bolt through the frame.

Fairly simple job all round really. It looks like most other bikes, so yes it's not as nice, but it's far from terrible.

I look forward to testing it out soon

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