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[Closed] New YT?

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Jeffrey replacement, or a downcountry machine?

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Posted : 25/03/2020 8:01 am
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Looks like a Trek.


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 8:29 am
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Given the tyre choice, Forekasters front and rear and a small shock, my guess is a new 100-120mm trail/downcountry bike. Looks good to me!


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 10:12 am
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Small rocker link, pikes, plus the Jeffsy frame is only into it's second year. And the Jeffsy is 150/150 on the 29er this year across the board, so more trail-light enduro/all mountain.

130mm 27.5/120mm 29er I'm betting.


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 1:15 pm
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What on Earth is a ‘downcountry’ frame or bike...? A niche too far...


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 1:31 pm
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Ditto, what is "downcountry" meant to be?

What is it about mtb that we need this never ending marketing bs?😕


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 1:34 pm
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Somewhere between cross country and trail bike. It's an arbitrary niche between two other arbitrary niches. Started as a joke on Pinkbike, but has taken on a life of its' own

It basically means "120mm travel".


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 1:44 pm
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Ditto, what is “downcountry” meant to be?

What is it about mtb that we need this never ending marketing bs?😕

As George says, it was an in-joke on PB that has got out of hand.

However the bikes it refers to are exactly what most of us should probably be riding - slack, short-travel 29in things that take the sting out of bumps and carry speed amazingly well.

I've just built one up myself in the form of an Orange Stage 4 with a slackset.


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 1:49 pm
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Marketing, no need to sell somethng people need when you can sell them a new niche they then think they need 🙂

When will the "upcountry" bikes be comming out then.


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 1:51 pm
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"upcountry' that'll be an E-bike!!!


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 2:12 pm
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Actually I think all these names come about because it's incredibly difficult to communicate a bike's ride qualities or intended rider.
I'm not sure it's as cynical as some make out.

It's just people trying to figure out a way to describe a bike's intentions without a full paragraph!


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 2:30 pm
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Of all the silly names for bikes, I think Mike Levy’s “down-country” instead of “cross-country” is actually a great one. There were already some bikes like this but it was mostly a way of building up an XC bike with bigger forks, tyres and bars plus a dropper post so you lost little pedalling ability but gained a load of descending confidence.

And now more and more bikes are coming out like this - big wheels, short travel, efficient, good for mile munching but could handle an uplift day. I’d like one! My hardtail is probably similar in ability, just a bit harder on the rider.


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 2:40 pm
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Yeah, they're just short travel bikes with the geometry sorted out, and maybe bigger forks.

We were doing it a decade or so ago when bikes were still short as well, lots of us had things like Trances with longer forks or remember the Orange Blood?


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 3:00 pm
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I thought the Blood was a park bike - a copy of the Transition Bottlerocket or am I misremembering?


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 5:51 pm
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Blood was an All-Mountain bike along the lines of the Alpine 160.


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 7:57 pm
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Maybe it was a short travel playbike, I think I remember it had a silly slack seat angle when I demo-ed one. Did park bikes exist then?

Anyway, it probably wouldn't be "downcountry" you are right. But my point was more about longer forks on short travel bikes. Perhaps it wasn't a very good point.


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 8:09 pm
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It's ok - I understood the point
Sorry to be pedantic 🙂


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 8:46 pm

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