[Closed] New Trek Slash

They really need to kill through shaft off and the reactiv crap, just fit a proper shock.

I was never a Trek lover, but for the last 3 or 4 years, they've been right on the money, both in terms of intent and aesthetics.

That is superb looking.

been overdue for ages, does look good. Got the same shock on my remedy and it is pretty impressive for general use/trail but im sure you could do much better for bike park use

Is the through shaft not just a trunnion mount like everyone else these days?

Edit: trunnion, not yoke

Is the through shaft not just a yoke mount like everyone else these days?

different internals as well. not a bad shock (got one on my rail), better than the standard super deluxe, nt as good a float X2. lack a bit of id stroke support, meg neg might sort it though

I preferred the red ones, one colour, no messing. Seat tube arrangement still a bit of a mess.

Its more a trunnion mount, it negates the need for a large IFP, although you still need a small one for temperature change.
https://www.f1technical.net/features/10660

So much for embargoes!

Looks like a Process X
But with worse paintjob & numbers 😜
170 Front 162 Rear
HTA: 63.5
STA: 78

Its a similar design to the kona but a lot nicer looking.

Still love my 2020 Slash 8. It has been one of the best bikes I've owned so far!

Can handle anything I'm stupid enough to try at speed and it's comfortable to pedal around all day. Despite its size, it's quite sprightly too!

The new one is a bit too much bike for my purposes though and I think I'll go lightweight trail bike next time as most of my riding seems to be cross country days out with a lot of pedaling and the odd rocky/fast descent.

Never seen one on the trails other than mine have a Slash 8 awesome bike way better than the Remedys have owned a few of them.

Looks like a Process X

I kinda get what you mean, but the Trek is braw, that Kona is a bit mingin though.

Kona has better geo, better seat tube, proper shock and a cleaner paintjob.

I really don’t want to want one....

but I do

The new one is a bit too much bike for my purposes

this. Enduro race bikes are getting to be too much bike for UK riding imho. I’m not sure I’m brave enough to exploit the extra dh performance 170mm 29ers give over 150ish mm 29ers

very nearly bought the current one when it first came out

Just kind of looks like a trek tbh, bike shaped. Bit less ugly than mine 🙂

Sir HC
Subscriber

They really need to kill through shaft off and the reactiv crap, just fit a proper shock.

Through shaft I don't like but reactiv works really well ime. I'm still on an old Remedy 29 and it has the best rear suspension I've ever felt on any bike. TBH digressive shocks just make sense.

Nope, not the one for me. It's a bit meh.

And they refuse to kill off through shaft & reactiv. My Fuel has both & the rear shock is rubbish. As was the shock on my Rail, before I put a normal coil on it.

They still haven't figured out how to give it a reasonable STA (their effective STA numbers are pure fantasy for anyone over 6 foot), and I don't know anyone with a reactiv shock that hasn't pooped the bed at least once.

On the plus side, at least they seem to have abandoned knock block.

I had a 2016 Slash and it's a fantastic bike, but I think its geometry is quite dated now and the updated one is still very conservative.

The RE:aktiv shock on my Remedy is great.

P.s. I measured the effective STA on my Remedy (XL) and it's 3 degrees steeper than Trek claim.

Trek say the Remedy's seatangle (effective) is 74.2/74.7. I struggle to believe that's actually 77.2/77.7

I haven't measured the actual angle on my XL Slash, but I'm 6'1/187cm and with the seat at pedaling height my bum is about 5cm in front of the rear wheel axle. The Fox dropper post will only just allow enough seat angulation to keep the saddle level on flat ground.

P.s. I measured the effective STA on my Remedy (XL) and it’s 3 degrees steeper than Trek claim.

Its time to kill of effective seat angle and adopt something less random and open to intepretation.

Define the seat height and then the offset between the centre of the bb and centre of the saddle rail.

I haven’t measured the actual angle on my XL Slash, but I’m 6’1/187cm and with the seat at pedaling height my bum is about 5cm in front of the rear wheel axle. The Fox dropper post will only just allow enough seat angulation to keep the saddle level on flat ground.

The fuel I had was ace at wheelies, my privateer on the other hand is shit, but it does go uphills significantly better!

Through shaft I don’t like but reactiv works really well ime. I’m still on an old Remedy 29 and it has the best rear suspension I’ve ever felt on any bike. TBH digressive shocks just make sense.

Digressive damping doesn't make any sense, hit something harder, you want more damping, otherwise you end up with high spring rates/air pressures, which gives you less small bump.

Why we havent seen bar mounted compression levers make an appearance on trail/enduro bikes is strange, not full lockout, but to stick the bike in a less active state for fire roads and when on the pedals.

Digressive damping doesn’t make any sense, hit something harder, you want more damping,

According to Trek, damping is similar to a normal shim damper at high speeds. The difference is that there is more damping at lower speeds.

Its time to kill of effective seat angle and adopt something less random and open to intepretation.

This. People are now so often comparing apples to oranges, and ruling bikes due to the misunderstandings that arise from doing so.

My XL Slash 8 is really good at climbing to be fair, even with the seat angle. Just wish it was a tad shorter so I could fit a longer dropper (150mm max).

Original Hightower wasn't too bad, but front wheel started to lift on steep stuff, I don't like that 🙂

Are they finally getting rid of the knock block.

Are they finally getting rid of the knock block.

No

Ah not thrushaft again!

Are we sure this thing has a knock block? Apparently the reason for that was to run a super stiff, straight downtube without the fork adjusters clanking on it, but this has the wiggly downtube with fork arch clearance.

It's not special enough to tempt me away from my current bike. And this is still the nicest looking Slash...

Sir HC
Subscriber

Digressive damping doesn’t make any sense, hit something harder, you want more damping,

Oops, I made a stupid- regressive I should have said rather than digressive.

@sharkattack Yep, that sure was the pretty one.

@hob nob what coil have you fitted to your Rail?

That red slash was a bit too heavy and enduro for me when i was last looking for a bike yet i was soooo drawn to it as it was soooo pretty that i almost convinced myself it was the right choice.

And it was a trek, a brand with quite a low attraction factor 😉

@hob nob what coil have you fitted to your Rail?

It's a bit of a mongrel of an EXT Storia/Arma with a slightly longer stroke to make it ~160mm rear travel.

You have to be careful with the Rail with the coils, as the piggyback will contact the downtube on bottom out (more likely on the smaller bikes).

Yeah, I know about the reservoir issue. I’ve got a DVO Jade X to go on, just waiting for the spring.

How are you finding it? Some folk are saying the suspension is a bit too linear but was under the impression that Treks are pretty progressive.

It's fine, the rail is reasonably progressive (well within the realm of running a coil) although my shock has hydraulic bottom out which will always help.